i believe 150 feet of one another. for me, it borders on exceptional. w3q individually as projects that it meets the planning code. commissioner moore: is there -- a president miguel: is there a motion? commissioner sugaya: i think one of the difficulties for me is that in the previous case we have had experienceok with the project sponsor. and this is probably not a good reason to vote for or against. but it does influence you a little bit, i think. and here we have two entities. one is from the dreaded l.a., but that should not be a factor. i am añr little concerned that they abandoned their operation

in the face of supposed regulation. i do not know what the situation was down there. and then we have another project sponsor who has no experience, and is using a set of experienced consultants -- and a law firm that has dealt with a cpdlot of dispensaries, etc.ç it presents a slightly different pictureç. i do not think it is a reason to deny them particularly. but it is a little difference to ration, for me anyway. -- different situation, for me anyway. commissioner antonini: iç think your chargeç as commissioners s to try to meet the needsç of medical marijuana patience -- patientsw3 in san frcé reasonable manner.

having a dispensary that is geographically in this area, i think, given the number of patients and the prospect timothy -- and the proximity,çt would be like anything else. if you have a hospital that is fairly close, or medical facilities or doctors' offices, that is reasonable. i can see this as a medical-type facility. it is not like you are favoring one over the other. but i think you have to look at the ones with thenb most experience. that is my feeling on this issue. çç>> if i might chime in, i wd çto stick to the commission tht this particular situation -- they are clustering. çbut this particular land use,

you are going to most likely increase that likelihood due to the limitations that may have. there are specific districts where they can locate. they have to be a certain distance from public school facilities. it is most likely going to increase the chance that you're going to end up with a cluster like this. commissioner moore: the problems do exist because it is, in many people's mind, a controversial use. it has an effect on the cohesiveness of how and neighborhood commercial district functions. and given the opposition or implied fear of people, people will try to look at this particular use not as a complementary, sympathetic use, but as something you are suspicious of. you are alwaysç looking around out of the corner of your eye.

i am concerned, because ofç the 150 foot distance,ç that everybody in between, which is about four or five properties, will be stuck with having toi] o with that. it is for that reason, because we have not had something quite as similar as this, that it becomes, at least for this group, an extraordinary and exceptional situation to judge. we have, over time, expressed our concern, looking ahead, that we would be wanting some support for not clustering, but we have not found tools not to do that. i am not making any conclusive statement here. i am basically speaking to a very bigw3 problem i have. because for me it becomes exceptional and extraordinary because of the nature of the use, and voiced opposition of

the use as part of a neighborhood commercial corridor. for that very reason, i am concerned that the local affect could be neighbor -- could be negative. -- the local effect could be negative. in other situations, i have supported to products -- two projects. ! difficult. commissioner borden: i would say -- i mean, i agree. the challenge is how you choose. we do not have the tools and our tool kit to say this one gets it and this one does not. that is where the challenges. on the one hand, you canw3 say e is from l.a. and not from here. but they have the actual experience. ççi do not know what this commission is thinking about. but we may want to consider -- i know everyone hates continuance

s. it might be worth a conversation. even if we were -- granted, the problem is that it is not a conditional use. this is a discretionary review. it is not the same as a conditional use application. in a conditional use application, you would consider there already were two full- service restaurants, or what ever you were looking at. we do not have the tools to discriminate against one or the other. but i feel like there is definitely a possible impact, just because people -- there is definitely that residual activity on one side of the street. if theyç were even on different sides of theç street, you know? that is the only thing. i actually really understand that. içó have a lot aroundç me, buty

are atçó least blocks away from each other. i think that, you know -- i guess i do not know what continuing would help solve. i do not know that we will get any new tools decision. but there is a concern. and i just do not know how we adequately deal with that, because our toolkit does not really allow us to. presidentç miguel: i do not thk personally, after this length of time, continuances going to achieve anything. commissioner fong: if a continuance would help bring more information to the table or bring us more tools, i would suggest that might be a possibility. i just do not know what that would be, unless you have ideas about additional information. i do not know what that would be, is my only concern.

çcommissioner sugaya: i think e have been -- because these came in exactly, more or less, at the same time, and are on the agenda at the same time, it makes it doubly difficult for the commission. in other cases, if you look at theç map we have of for the otr dispensaries are, there are a lot of them that are close together. there appear to be some that may be as close as these, although the scale of the map is such that you cannot tell that. but there are definitely more existing mcd's clustered in certain areas of the city. but those all did not come in to gather at the same time. so we were able to consider them çseparately, you might say, one on one. i do not know if we have ever denied one. ççcommissioner antonini: 0 yee

have. commissionerq not know if we denied them because they were close. çfor the audience, it just maks the decision a little bit strange. that is why we are having in the problem here. at least with these two. the previous one was down the road a little bit. it is a little bit difference attrition. that said, i don't think i added anything. commissioner fong: just a technical question. i am not necessarily suggesting it. this is not a conditional use. but we have the ability to control hours and days of operation. for example, rather than picking one over the other, if you let them go alternate days a week of operation.

i am just curious. ç>> i do not seeç why not, ife commission chose to take discretionary review and approve for certain dates of operation. it is not usually done. i do not know of any restrictions. you can put a condition on any type of business operation. commissioner fong:ç i would not dare to think to do that if it was a restaurant, controlling their business in that way. commissioner moore:ç i am not going to suggest days. but in the past, when we started doing this a number of years back, there used to be a large number of users. it was always quite touching and quite supportive to feel that the users themselves were here speaking about why this one particular application. and we do not have that much

anymore. those were people who repeatedly came, that talked about the compassionate part of the operations, etc. j always very strong, supportive testimony. i did not quite hear that in the last two cases, to be honest. they looked like well-planned business enterprises, in that the experts were there with various degrees and their success in other parts of the economy. it did not speak as much to the personal caring part. çi paused, thinking i did not have the strong resonance i have with other cases. commissioner antonini: we have

denied two mcd's, and another that went far into the night was approved, but was denied at permit appeals. on another subject, because of the depth of neighborhood disapproval, we did take d.r. and not approved a starbucks on judah many years ago. although i use might be approved, if there is overwhelming neighborhood opposition, we have in the past not approved. i am impressed with the attempts for security, particularly with the treemed dispensary. i am concerned not only the closeness to the san mateo line, but to balboa high school. this location is right at the

center of mission and geneva. huge numbers of young people in their teenage years. while everything may be done completely well at the dispensaries, anyone patient but felt they might want to sell -- any one patient that might want toq i think it is more possible for that to happen and further north on mission street, which is a little more isolated from secondary and middle schools, i think, even though they are technically beyond 1,000 feet. that is my problem with these two. zvçñr>> i will move to -- i wie

to take d.r. and çdisapprove both. çpresident miguel: is there a second? xdcommissionerçç sugaya: the difficulty i have with the nile is coming up with findings. -- denainial is coming up with findings. if the night, i am sure there will immediately appeal to the board of appeals. having sat on the board of appeals, mr. reed came before us manyç years ago. the board charge is to lookxd at the people and the code and try to apply what is in the code. from that standpoint, i think commissioner wut( is right. thereç is a set of standards tt

these have met. if we cannot come up with a good reason, i think it may be likely that the board of appealsç will go against us, so to speak. i am not saying that what happened. but just in terms of having to make findings as to why we are denying it, i think is the rub for me. president miguel: i cannot make aç motion from the chair. i would second the motion. we are stuck. t(çóapproval with the same conditions that we put on the calendar. but we just heard. if anyone wishes to make that motion.

commissioner antonini: there is the difficulty with security concerns, particularly the proximity to middle and secondary schools, and distinct from the earlier approval. çcommissioner fong: i am goingo make a motion to approve the ççproject with theñr same thre condition supervisor avalos laid out and we imparted in our last boat. -- vote. çthe same conditions. both projects with the same conditions. adequate lighting, parking, contributions to safety and security of the block, contributions to civic appeal by addingok greenery, clean and we-

painted facades, and the fourth, which we are going to try to make overarching, is video surveillance systems, actual hardware, is looked over. >> there is also the condition for a community liaison. commissioner fong: correct. thank you very much. president miguel: there is a motion and a second. >> the motion is to take d.r. and approve the project, based on the conditions imposed on the project at 4218 mission street,d outlined in supervisor avalos's note, çwith the added requiremt for a community liaison. çthe police department will be able to inspect for compliance. on that motion -- commissioner antonini: no. commissioner borden: aye.

commissioner fong: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: no. commissioner wu: aye. president miguel: aye. >> the motion passes 5-2. [applause] president miguel: i hope both of your organizations and their supporters fullyç understand t, what should i say, conundrum we have to serve under. i hope if any of the board of supervisors or staff listens or looks at this hearing that they willç understandç that we're asking themçç to deal with th, if they can. >>ç thank you. commissioners, you are now at

general public comment. president miguel: is there any public the agenda? if not, public comment is closed and this hearing is finally over. çç5a

>> hello. you're watching the show that explores san francisco's love affair with food.

there are at least 18 farmers markets in san francisco alone, providing fresh and affordable to year-round. this is a great resource that does not break the bank. to show just how easy it can be to do just that, we have come up with something called the farmers' market challenge. we find someone who loves to cook, give them $20, and challenge them to create a delicious meal from ingredients found right here in the farmer's market. who did we find for today's challenge? >> today with regard to made a pot greater thanchapino.

>> you only have $20 to spend. >> i know peter it is going to be tough, but i think i can do it. it is a san francisco classic. we are celebrating bay area food. we have nice beautiful plum tomatoes here. we have some beautiful fresh fish here. it will come together beautifully. >> many to cut out all this talk, and let's go shop. yeah. ♪ >> what makes your dish unique? >> i like it spicy and smoky. i will take fresh italian tomatoes and the fresh seafood, and will bring them to other with some nice spoked paprika and some nice smoked jalapeno peppers. i am going to stew them up and get a nice savory, smoky, fishy,

tomatoy, spicy broth. >> bring it on. how are you feeling? >> i feel good. i spent the $20 and have a few pennies less. i am going to go home and cook. i will text message u.n. is done. >> excellent and really looking forward to it. >> today we're going to make the san francisco classic dish invented by italian and portuguese fishermen. it'll be like a nice spaghetti sauce. then we will put in the fish soup. the last thing is the dungeon as crab, let it all blend together. it will be delicious. when i could, i will try to make healthy meals with fresh ingredients, whatever is in season and local. those juicy, fresh tomatoes will take about an hour to cook down into a nice sauce. this is a good time to make our fish stock. we will take a step that seems like trash and boil it up in

water and make a delicious and they speed up my parents were great clerics, and we had wonderful food. family dinners are very important. any chance you can sit down together and have a meal together, it is great communal atmosphere. one of the things i like the most is the opportunity to be creative. hello. anybody with sets their mind to it can cut. always nice to start chopping some vegetables and x and the delicious. all this double in view is this broth with great flavor. but your heart into it. make something that you, family, and friends will really enjoy. >> i am here with a manager at the heart of the city farmer's market in san francisco. thank you for joining us. tell us a little bit about the organization. >> we're 30 years old now. we started with 14 farmers, and it has grown out to over 80. >> what is the mission of the

organization? >> this area has no grocery store spiller it is all mom-and- pop stores. we have this because it is needed. we knew it was needed. and the plaza needed somebody. it was empty. beautiful with city hall in the background. >> thank you for speaking with us. are you on the web? >> yes, hocfarmersmarket.org. >> check them out. thank you. >> welcome. the dish is ready. >> it looks and smells amazing. >> thank you. it was not easy to meet the $20 budget. i checked everybody out and found some great produce. really lovely seafood. i think that you are going to love it. >> do not be shy. cyou know this can run you $35 to $45 for a bowl, so it is

great you did this for $20. >> this will feed four to six people. >> not if you invite me over for dinner. i am ready to dig in. >> i hope you'll love it. >> mmm. >> what do you think? >> i think i am going to need more. perhaps you can have all you want. >> i am produce the that you have crushed this farmer's market challenge by a landslide. the first, we're going to have to tally of your shopping list and see what you actually spend that the farmer's market. >> and go for it. >> incredible. you have shown us how to make super healthy, refresh chapino from the farmers market on the budget, that for the whole family. that is outstanding. >> thank you peter i am glad

that you like it. i think anybody can do it. >> if you like the recipe for this dish, you can e-mail us at sfgtv@sfgov.org or reach out to us on facebook or twitter and we

>> i came out to san francisco about seven years ago. i was trained as a carpenter. i got sick of the cold weather and the hot weather. i wanted to pursue art. i thought i really be here for about three years. here i am, 7 years later. ♪ i have problems sleepwalking at night. i wanted to create a show about sleep. a mostly due painting kind of story telling. these are isolated subject matters, smaller studies for the

larger paintings. i fell in love with it and wanted to create more of them. it is all charcoal on mylar. it is plastic. i was experimenting and discovered the charcoal moves smoothly. it is like painting, building up layers of charcoal. it is very unforgiving. you have to be very precise with the mark-making. a mark dents the paper and leaves the material embedded. you have to go slowly. the drawings are really fragile. one wipe and they are gone completely. it is kind of like they're locked inside