and >> alike to call the meeting of the san francisco public utilities commission to order. how can you call the roll? >> [roll call]

>> we have a quorum. thank you. the minutes, it is the second version of the new format. i think it is working pretty well. if you have comments on that, it is still a work in progress. you have any questions, comments, modifications? >> the motion carries. >> the for public comment, i would like to pull items 12 and 19 from the agenda today. item 12 is the port issue, and there are issues that have come up by virtue of the first district court ruling that i

want to make sure we have a full briefing and understanding before we proceed on that. the intent for that would be to be on the next agenda. item 19 is a closed session item and we like to continue that so that the appropriate staff is available. public comment. given they are no longer on the agenda, if anybody has come just for those items and needs to speak, this is the time to do with. it is for items not on the agenda today. >> [inaudible]

i had a few comments about the proposed water transfer, and we did submit comments in a letter back in march, had wanted to thank staff for following up on the concerns that we expressed. i wanted to focus on the need for the water or the lack thereof. in 2008, when it was approved, will reusing about 257 million gallons a day. last year, we were down between 210 at 220. projections are down, so we are not going to need it in the near future and it would be a take or

pay contract. we are paying whether we use the water or not. i know there has to allot of concern about rising rates. we are being penalized for conserving and we're having to pay more a unit. we tried to explain the, there are fixed rates that have to be covered. the $1.5 million a year isn't going to go over very well with the public. i would encourage you to think about if we need it and if we can address this sooner rather than later. it might be necessary and a good idea, the staff is going on that direction. if we go through the process of negotiating in creating a contract, i think this will be the issue. maybe it is better to make that

earlier on. the zero you will consider that and -- i hope that you will consider that and thank you for your time. >> communications, commissioners? the letter summary, the advanced calendar and a variety of staff reports. i think questions or comments about the staff report -- >> the first is waste water, page 6. i am sure i have seen this before, but what is the philosophy behind the late date that is 2025?

>> and the director of the capital program for waste water. this is a tough project, we are currently still in the planning phase. when we are validating what is there, we would be putting about proposals to be able to pull and the consultant to the planning, the design, and to help us during the construction. when we talk this summer, we will be coming to you with the validated recommended schedules. this is probably the program with the longest duration. it involves some and a different maneuvers, we have to relocate the department city to another location, relocate, bill.

it would be all the steps it would take to get through building at the digesters and building a potential facility. the digesters themselves would be up and approximately 15 years. this represents the full duration. >> i guess we can address and click. >> we are all concerned that it happens as quickly as possible. >> we will be discussing this allot in the next couple of weeks, but it is such a large project, we understand the urgency of it. >> i have another question.

this time, the hech hechi capital improvement. page seven. retail services. >> miss hale. >> we have everything is delayed. >> what is the meaning of that? >> projects are delayed for coordination of other department and for staff concerns. >> e d and months? >> yes. -- >> 18 months? >> yes. and we're trying to address hiring needs with h.r. >> in the wsip quarterly

report, it starts out with a brief statement by the responsible managers to what the takeaway message should be. aside from all the detail, one of the things most on their mind, i ask that those be added to the reports as well. part of that process that makes life easier. anything else on communications? any public comment? other commission business? i have one item. we are in the process of scoping the west side reclamation project in light of moving to a new location. has been put that together, i

want to make sure that one of the alternatives that we look at is one that does not include reverse osmosis. that is the same technology they use, it is energy intensive and carbon impact that are very expensive. i would like to see what the project looks like. i understand there are good reasons why it has been included. >> we will still have that one? gosh yes. any other commission business? report from the general manager. >> the first item, there have been two different emergencies over the last several weeks. one with the leak at the shore

and the other was that 17th and fulsom. i want brian henderson to talk about each of those. >> good afternoon, commissioners. there are two items i would like to give you an update on. i have some slides. switching over here for you guys. i will be very quick and brief, but i don't think there is a time limit when it comes to answering questions. you have already gotten little bit of a briefing on the main issue. it is the only consolation that transmits an average of 15 million gallons a day for treatment of south beaceast. we discovered a leak in this item that is visible in these

pictures. it was discovered by sue work crews. with the force made underneath, we went through a series of legal detections had decided we need to give somebody in the pipe and to see what is going on there. what you see here, part of the mobilization to get into this white, it is a monumental effort. this is before he goes againin. they come out of this thing, they're one color. very fgrueling, intense, and a dangerous operation.

the leak on the street actually occurred right at mission on the embarcadero. it was just short of the ferry building. we currently have the elite under control. this is the weekly had a year ago, over a year ago of a near jackson streets. this is the same fix that we implemented here at mission street. what you see are compression bands and rubber seals. against all these things. -- they installed these things. we had to dam the sewweer system at samson and jackson, that

allowed us to pump about 3 million gallons a day into the central basin, and you see them at their where we were blocking stevenson for a time. this is a pretty monumental effort between the water department and waste water crews. this allowed us to make this happen. they were blocking deliveries to the system, there is a little picture here. we have moved to the pump around with a wheat field test, we are still monitoring the situation,

we are going to get out there and do more detections in the next week to verify that we have gotten yet. we addressed in the big leagues of was coming up on the street. we received a three-quarters of an inch of rain in that area and less than an hour. combined with high tide, we had hollowed-lying areas here. it affects up to 20 businesses more or less. what you see here, the picture that was on the news that came from -- i am almost done, so ask questions. the last picture, let me show you a picture of this thing. we intend to be able to address

these issues. thank you. >> if you recall, we started a project to work around that general area. and we ran into a pg&e utility box that wasn't where it was supposed to be. we had to cancel and start again. if we had been able to fix that, this would not have been anywhere near as important. the since this is the only way to get the flow from the northern part of the city down from the southeast, having it leak is obviously unacceptable. if we had to build and repair it from the outside, it would have meant that we would be closing down two lanes of the embarcadero for many evenings over the next several months. it is great that it was able to be fixed from the inside.

when we get that new main in place, we won't have to rely on this as the only way to get sewage from that part of the city. >> when we have an issue with this, we have about a day of storage and before we start the coh -- >> what is the level of service standard that we have adopted? >> again, this issue will be handled -- >> 1.3 inches over three hours, it is very low. we are glad to throw everything we can at ait,