thank you. >> i was trying to complete or get closer to something that works. could we go back to the north panhandle area? could we look at population between cole, grove, s chraeder, and hayes? sorry, not those blocks, but the

one block right there. >> that is a population of 176 people, bringing the deviation to 4.72% -- -4.70% for district 1. slight change. this is a population of 176 people, it would bring the deviation for district 124 point -- -4.72% and the deviation for district 52 2.13%. >> we're getting real precise here. thinking would be to add to d1. i do not know of that works.

something like that to allow the population for one man to to stay under 5% deviation. one and t garrido to stay under 5% deviation. -- one and two to stay under 5% deviation. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner pilpel: yes. commissioner mondejar: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. no. >> no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. please make this change. >> could we get the deviation

for one in two -- and two? >> the deviation for district 1 is -4.70%, the deviation for district 2 is -5.19%. >> could we look at the block -- let's go to the west. so this would be moving to 24th avenue. within that boundary to twenty- fourth. -- moving that boundary to twenty-fourth. >> that is 165 people, bringing the deviation for district 2t to -4.69% and [inaudible] >> i propose we move that blocked. -- block.

commissioner alonso: no. vice-chair lam: yes. commissioner pilpel: yes. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner tidwell: no. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. >> i just realized something. since we moved over to fifth avenue on the other side, if we left this one alone, it could go back to six. that is another way of doing it that would come closer to preserving the current boundaries. >> mr. leigh is proposing we reverse the action we just took. >> could we look at that block bounded by california and lake and see if it is near 165 population?

i suspect it is more dense. >> that was a population of 200 people. >> population is 200. >> -2.69% and district 1 would be -5.21%. >> can we take them together as a swap and see if that does it? >> no. >> district 2, deviation? >> -4.69%, district 1, -4.29%. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner mondejar: yes. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner tidwell: yes to the

swap. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. we will go to the -- population deviation? >> 165 people. the deviation for district 1 would be -4.99% and a deviation for district 2 would be -4.91%. >> ok. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner melara: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. chairman mcdonnellcommissioner . commissioner schreiber: yes. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. please make this change.

possible to move now? readiness to move? thank you. muffing then -- can we go back to the monterey and specifically look at the conservatory that is outside of d7 and get it into d7 without upsetting the entire applecart? >> is currently out in the world -- we propose to put it

in seven. the concern was to maybe not. >> we're concerned about putting a sunny side institution at of sunnyside into district 8. >> i do not believe it is the spot. >> i believe is that block. >> this is the bloc that has the conservatory in it. ordered by monterey and -- bordered by monterey and condo. -- congo. >> the question of -- >> sunny side district.

can you open that up for us? >> this is from the sunny side neighborhood association website. defining their boundaries. >> the resolution is horrible. can you zoom in? vice-chair lam: can we get the

current deviations for district 7 and 8? >> is that correct? >> >that is what i have. >> district 8, 3.58%. >> the blocks east of the solid black . i would be cool with moving them from eight to seven. >> what are tehe blocks east of the current boundary. what is the population of those? >> this is the current boundary right here. which blocks would you like to

have selected? >> east of baden. >> that block is west of baden, south of joost. -- east of baden, south of joost. the others in the light green color. >> that is a population of 371 people. deviation for district 72 -3.2% and a deviation for district 8 to 3.07%. >> one more time. >> this is a population of 371 people. it would bring the deviation for district 7 to -3.2% and the deviation for district 8 to

3.07%. >> if you tell me the street boundaries of the highlighted area? >> the red highlighted area? that is joost, circular, hearst, and baden. >> inside the current -- you do not have to answer. can you zoom in? that does not help with the streets.

>> the block no. -- north, is that joost?

>> the population would be 580. >> 7 would be 0.2% -- -0.02%. >> i would not propose that last blocked.

>> can we deselect that block and can i suggest that move? >> would you like to hear the population for this area? that is rendered 71 people bringing the deviation for district 72 -0.32% and the deviation for district 82 to [inaudible] >> let's take it one piece at a time. 371. d8 becomes their 3.87. 0.32. thank you. commissioner tidwell: yes. commissioner schreiber: could

ask -- could i ask [inaudible] >> commissioner leigh: no. chairman mcdonnell: yes. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner leigh: i thought we were talking about the possibility of putting the conservatory back in district 8. this is going the other way. i appreciate the boundaries of the neighborhood have been submitted and everything, but we have not had much conversation about this and it seems like it is quite late to be entertaining new proposals that

could have a serious -- serious impact. this is sort of like glen park /sunnyside type zone. i am uncomfortable with not the general concept, that would have been fine to discuss it in an earlier stage. given where we are to move this into out of district 8 into district 7, i am not comfortable with that. >> can i first line? >> you sure can. >> i thought we were talking about the conservatory, not the rest of the neighborhood. that is glen park, actually, yes. i would say no. i change my vote. >> i will start over. i lost my place.

commissioner tidwell: yes. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner pilpel: yes. commissioner mondejar: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. commissioner melara: no. commissioner leigh: no. commissioner alonso: no. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. >> can you go back in for a moment? >> eight? >> yes, please.

commissioner leigh: could i also ask and ne -- that needle that goes down, circular, is there population there? >> those are freeway parcels. >> 27 people. >> i take it back. >> we have got 27 people that are on a severe peninsula.

>> it is not -- >> that may be 280. >> san jose becomes 280. >> we could do a satellite overly. -- overlay. >> 280. when we click on it, it comes back at i-280. >> the border between 7 and 11 ought to be to 80. and stuff that -- to render aid. stuff that is north of the freeway in that area ought to be in seven. i do not know where there are

actual people in that zone, if there's a house there i missed or something. or homeless. the center line there really ought to be 280. [inaudible] in that area. >> i wish we had not made the move we just made but we just did it. i do not know what else to say. >> are you proposing the needle? >> where is it now? >> in eight. >> i would propose to move that to seven. >> give me the population deviation. >> 27, a deviation of district 7

would become -0.28%, the deviation of district 8 would become 3.04%. >> thank you. commissioner tidwell: i will abstain. i do not have a preference. i am not voting. whatever the group decides. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner mondejar: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. commissioner melara: no. commissioner leigh: yes. commissioner alonso: yes. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change.

ok. >> can i ask , are we taking the question of the conservatory of the -- off the table? it would be tough to do given what we just did but to have the sunnyside conservatory remain in district 8? that was one of the public speakers, the point of view she raised.

on monday night we moved that line to baden, taking the conservatory from 8 where it is now out in the world and we moved it to seven. ok. based on the map, it would be non-contiguous a that would not be possible. i am puzzled by the fact that was what i thought motivated our interest in having the conversation and now as results -- as a result of the move we just made, we precluded the possibility of having that conversation. >> i do not think we have precluded any conversation. what i interpreted from the public comment is there was some concern that came up today or recently about the conservatory. the question was, where was it? some issue landed on the

supervisor's desk because that is the supervisor who has that area where -- if it were in district 7, the concern would be routed to that supervisor and they would deal with it. the moves we just made unified this sunny side neighborhood and put it in seven for better or worse but at least the conservatory runs with the past rest of the neighborhood rather than being separated from it as it sort of is now. >> all i am pointing out is the community member who provided feedback that motivated -- got this issue on a list for us to discuss, this is not responsive to that testimony. that is all. >> i do not hear -- remember

hearing testimony from the public about this move. >> that neighborhood has very little in common with district 7. >> thank you. is there a proposal? commissioner leigh: we will consider our proposals. >> ok, let me give it a try. i propose we take the blocks that we just moved from district eight to seven. restore this back to eight and include the conservatory and move that back to 8.

can you give her a direction to highlight it? >> including this? >> that is the population of 390 people. the deviation for district 8 would be 3.58% and a deviation for district 7 would be -0.83%. >> to add the block that includes the conservatory? >> that would bring the population to 540 people with the deviation a 3.77% for district 8 and for district 72 - 1.20%. >> i will make that proposal. commissioner alonso: yes. commissioner melara: yes.

vice-chair lam: no. commissioner mondejar: come back to me. commissioner pilpel: no. commissioner schreiber: no. commissioner tidwell: no. ok. we will make ththat change. commissioner mondejar: yes. >> we will make that change. thank you. we will move -- to the 911 border. >> we are not doing that unless we do the overall rotation. that was what that was part of. let's go to 610.

>> that is the mission bay, right? >> that is the block on the center right there. the zero population changed. restore its the way it is. -- zero population change. >> that is mission bay? >> yes. it is south of 16th, where they're building a hospital is what i am told and it is the black -- the block east of third. where is the oil. this is one where i screwed up. it would restore the boundary to where it is. this is what it would do.