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population out of three. commissioner mondejar: come back to me. vice-chair lam: no. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner leigh: no. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner mondejar: no. chairman mcdonnell: what is the next move? we have not decided on this yet. i want to appreciate what is coming next. >> i was going to propose to deflect the northeast corner and straight line id on leavenworth -- it on leavenworth. >> in terms of if we have to,
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the current aviation in two -- a deviation in two, you have to go down to the cathedral hill and move from sutter to post. chairman mcdonnell: go ahead and make the change, please. commissioner tidwell: so i look at the two blocks between sutter and post. that is goff and van ness. that is a population of 592 people. the deviation for district 2 is -5.2% and the division for district 5 to 2.59%. commissioner tidwell: so the
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option is also the 49 people at the end of seacrest? it would be to the left of 32nd and el camino del mar. chairman mcdonnell: won't we have to make the first change first? >> would you happen to know which block it is? >> if you looked and cost to the left, it is sticking out on california. not that. can you add all three of those? >> we have. that is a tool move of 642 people.
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-- 641 people. it would bring the deviation for district 22 -5.41. the deviation for district 5 to 2.59% and the deviation for district 1 to 4.96% -- -4.96%. >> i would propose making those changes and looking for the 0.51%. >> you have those two proposals. >> can we divide the question? >> of course we can. cathedral hill first?
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that is the 592. commissioner alonso: yes. commissioner leigh: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner mondejar: yes. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner tidwell: yes. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. let's go to [unintelligible] please. population is 49. >> that is correct. a population of 49 trade it would bring the deviation from district to two 0.51%.
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-- 4.96%. commissioner tidwell: yes. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner pilpel: not a street, no. commissioner mondejar: yes. vice-chair lam: no. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner leigh: yes. commissioner alonso: yes. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. >> i have one final tweaking in russian hill. right now we have the boundary -- the southern boundary of that and goler at the top of union, correct? is that union? can we bring it down to green from venice to leavenworth -- van ness to leavenworth?
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>> that is a population of 1048 people. the deviation for district to up to -2.7% and a deviation for district 32 -5.44%. chairman mcdonnell: discussion? >> i propose it. chairman mcdonnell: it depopulates 3 and we heard from public testimony from the russian hill community association it would split their organization. we have heard from them several times, we have received written testimony as well. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner leigh: no. vice-chair lam: no.
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commissioner mondejar: no. commissioner melara: no. commissioner pilpel: no. commissioner tidwell: no. chairman mcdonnell: we can go back to cathedral hill played a wanted to suggest another block there. >> there is no population there. there is only buildings. >> i thought west there might be. is there population? >> this highlighted area has 164 people in it. it would bring the deviation to- point -- 4.9%. 2.37. the population of the selected area is 164 people. >> thank you.
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commissioner tidwell:. commissioner tidwell: can we zoom in a teeny bit more? i will go with yes. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner mondejar: yes. commissioner melara: no. commissioner leigh: no. commissioner alonso: yes. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. >> what are the boundaries now for cathedral hill neighbors? i think we killed the whole
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thing that people want us to do. that is what is left in that little corner. >> this area? that is geary to van ness to golf. that is the existing boundary. >> people came to testify before us and we made changes for people here every time they come to testify but we have forgotten about the people who came before the last one and that is what i am very concerned about, we keep going back and forth and we have gone back on our word. basically. chairman mcdonnell: we have agreed we can revisit our own decisions and we have not made a
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commitment to anyone. we have not come back -- gone back on our word. where we are now in the process is our highest priority which is population. all other interests from my point of view are secretary to our population challenge. unfortunately, that is going to cause us to have to revisit or in other cases, not be able to accommodate public comment, no matter how strong the case might be. that said, per our list of south of st. luke's. 27th and duncan. >> is it still possible to suggest a couple more tweaks or smaller scale tweaks in this northern part? >> yes. >> one is a question, a
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population question about the block between lombard and greenwich, jones and leavenworth. this is the northernmost of the three blocks we moved back to two. that is the block. >> that is the population of 202 people. it will bring the deviation for district 32 -3.3% and the deviation for district 22 - 1.59%. >> i would like to propose this in combination with living in the lake st. boundary on the west side from 25th to either 26 or 27, which never gives us the population needed to stay within 5% for district two.
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the right side is that this would allow the elementary school to remain in district 3, preserving its connection to the chinatown community of interest. recognizing it is commonly understood to be an institution that is part of chinatown. >> let's take this first one. recognizing that is the potential, the next move is to the lake street corridor. >> can i ask what the percentages of district 1 are currently? >> the deviation? district 1 is under populated by 4.96%. >> folks were thinking about this move. let's go >> 4.96% 3 district to come out
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-4.91%. district 3, -4.01%. district 4, -0.98%. district 5, 2.73%. -- -2.37%. district 6, 0.87%. district 7, -0.83% pettitte -- . district 9, -- district 8, 3.58%. >> district 9, 4.84%. district 10, -0.91%. district 11, 4.94%. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. >> could you repeat district for? >> -4.90. chairman mcdonnell: going back
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up to russian hill. can you give us the population of that highlighted area and deviation? >> that is a population of 202 people, bringing the deviation for district 3 to -3.70% and the deviation for destitute to - 0.519%. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner melara: come back to me. yes. commissioner melara: could you tell me what the boundaries are? >> lombard, greenwich, and
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leavenworth. chairman mcdomelara: did we have testimony around us? >> we've received from don -- predominantly on monday. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner pilpel: yes. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner tidwell: no. commissioner melara: yes, because of the school. i am concerned about the other things that need to be done. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. please make this change and let's move to the other part of lake. if we could see the population for the block between 25th and 26. lake and california. >> that block?
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it has a population of 333 people. >> i would propose we move that blocked. -- that block. >> the population -- the deviation for district one would-be -4.1% and a deviation for district 2 would be -5.64%. >> we're close to the zone. commissioner alonso: friendly amendment? we go back to cathedral hill and see if there is any population left in that sliver of what the current boundaries are.
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the population and deviation? >> 277 people would bring the deviation for district 22 -4.81% and a deviation for district 5 to 1.99%. >> i would so propose this. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. commissioner tidwell: no. commissioner schreiber: no. commissioner pilpel: no. commissioner mondejar: no. commissioner melara: no. vice-chair lam: no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you.
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>> i was trying to complete or get closer to something that works. could we go back to the north panhandle area? could we look at population between cole, grove, s chraeder, and hayes? sorry, not those blocks, but the one block right there.
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>> that is a population of 176 people, bringing the deviation to 4.72% -- -4.70% for district 1. slight change. this is a population of 176 people, it would bring the deviation for district 124 point -- -4.72% and the deviation for district 52 2.13%. >> we're getting real precise here. thinking would be to add to d1. i do not know of that works. something like that to allow the population for one man to to
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stay under 5% deviation. one and t garrido to stay under 5% deviation. -- one and two to stay under 5% deviation. commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner pilpel: yes. commissioner mondejar: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. no. >> no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. please make this change. >> could we get the deviation for one in two -- and two? >> the deviation for district 1
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is -4.70%, the deviation for district 2 is -5.19%. >> could we look at the block -- let's go to the west. so this would be moving to 24th avenue. within that boundary to twenty- fourth. -- moving that boundary to twenty-fourth. >> that is 165 people, bringing the deviation for district 2t to -4.69% and [inaudible] >> i propose we move that blocked. -- block. commissioner alonso: no. vice-chair lam: yes. commissioner pilpel: yes.
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commissioner schreiber: yes. commissioner tidwell: no. chairman mcdonnell: please make this change. >> i just realized something. since we moved over to fifth avenue on the other side, if we left this one alone, it could go back to six. that is another way of doing it that would come closer to preserving the current boundaries. >> mr. leigh is proposing we reverse the action we just took. >> could we look at that block bounded by california and lake and see if it is near 165 population? i suspect it is more dense. >> that was a population of 200 people.
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>> population is 200. >> -2.69% and district 1 would be -5.21%. >> can we take them together as a swap and see if that does it? >> no. >> district 2, deviation? >> -4.69%, district 1, -4.29%. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner mondejar: yes. commissioner melara: yes. commissioner tidwell: yes to the swap. chairman mcdonnell: please make
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this change. we will go to the -- population deviation? >> 165 people. the deviation for district 1 would be -4.99% and a deviation for district 2 would be -4.91%. >> ok. commissioner alonso: no. commissioner melara: yes. vice-chair lam: yes. chairman mcdonnellcommissioner . commissioner schreiber: yes. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. please make this change.
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possible to move now? readiness to move? thank you. muffing then -- can we go back to the monterey and specifically look at the conservatory that is outside of d7 and get it into d7 without upsetting the entire applecart? >> is currently out in the world -- we propose to put it in seven. the concern was to maybe not.
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>> we're concerned about putting a sunny side institution at of sunnyside into district 8. >> i do not believe it is the spot. >> i believe is that block. >> this is the bloc that has the conservatory in it. ordered by monterey and -- bordered by monterey and condo. -- congo. >> the question of -- >> sunny side district.
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can you open that up for us? >> this is from the sunny side neighborhood association website. defining their boundaries. >> the resolution is horrible. can you zoom in? vice-chair lam: can we get the current deviations for district 7 and 8? >> is that correct?
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>> >that is what i have. >> district 8, 3.58%. >> the blocks east of the solid black . i would be cool with moving them from eight to seven. >> what are tehe blocks east of the current boundary. what is the population of those? >> this is the current boundary right here. which blocks would you like to have selected? >> east of baden.
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>> that block is west of baden, south of joost. -- east of baden, south of joost. the others in the light green color. >> that is a population of 371 people. deviation for district 72 -3.2% and a deviation for district 8 to 3.07%. >> one more time. >> this is a population of 371 people. it would bring the deviation for district 7 to -3.2% and the deviation for district 8 to 3.07%.