hand and speak into the microphone. >> i have a key question about the backup plan. you mentioned the super bowl earlier. what is the backup plan in the unlikely catastrophic event of the disabling of the system? solar storm or whatever. >> there are lots of things that can go wrong. the rights can hit the planet, and the things go dark, and then we fix it. in general, the technology you are talking about is something which is broadly called cloud bursting, where essentially, is used by google and other folks, there's not one computer called google.com. there's a basilian sitting behind a thing. there is a concept called load balancing, and it has been augmented of late with the ability to dynamically spinoff new instances of server applications in response to spikes in demand. the general concept called cloud bursting allows you to do that across multiple cloud vendors,

so you could do it across amazon and various other people say you could get geographic diversity and so on. people doing this extremely well, for example, would be netflix. many of you in this room i'm sure use the netflix. what they did is dynamically throw what is this is as more and more people click on movies that they want to watch. so then what they are doing is as the need scales, they then have the ability -- they pay them, and, of course, it drops off as soon as the need drops off as well. so they end up essentially paying for average demand. the technology is widely deployed around the world. >> as kind of a follow-up, individuals often use cloud services for backing up their computers. are we about to see people using their computers to back up their clout services to guarantee that

they hold on to their data? >> you are at the tip of a very interesting iceberg. go 100,000 miles in space and look down at the earth. we are still driving more wavelength down. there is no problem distributing content out to users. what we have a fundamental problem with is distribution of power. power is dominating in terms of distribution networks q one of the reasons why it does not make sense is because you are at the end of the tree, a long way from distribution, a lot of transmission loss. the data centers move to where power gets generated. what is the next hardest thing to move? big data. did it is still really hard to move, even though we have lots of wavelets. that says that the application moves to the data is. if you think about facebook and google and all those folks, they build data center's right were the power is generated. typically near hydro plants and so on. what you find is that more and

more applications will move to where the data is. moving those big chunks of data is very difficult. in terms of enterprises in the cloud, there is certainly no reason to suspect that the systems used by cloud vendors like amazon are not capable of geographic replication and redundancy. it is absolutely the case that someone like netflix, for example, could survive an outage of two simultaneous amazon did a centers through geographic redundancy and so on. this stuff exists, and the technology exists within the cloud providers to make sure that once your data gets there, it is not going away. it is just not a cloud provider solution. most enterprises will have things called disaster recovery, where they will keep all their critical data completely synchronized so that if one coast gets hit by an earthquake

or terrorist attack, you have the other coast where you can get your data. it is completely synchronized, always available, on demand. geographically diverse disaster recovery solutions have been in place for some time, and they actually do allow for secure data storage. >> i think that for the individual consumer and home user, this storage in the cloud and backing up your personal computer in the cloud has been burgeoning of late because people want to have the ability to store their files securely, but the reason why, to answer your question, is why do they continue to still backed up their clout back of solution onto a usb stick or on to their own pc is people still have to get comfortable with the idea of clout security, that the data truly is secure and they're

comfortable with letting go. people still not quite comfortable with that concept yet. as people become more and more confident and more and more comfortable with the concept of data being safe, we will still have people, and we will still have instances where people want their data next to them, where they feel comfortable, where they feel safe and confident that their data is secure. >> if i were purchasing services from a cloud vendor, i would mandate that all data at risk is encrypted using keys that i own, that i provide when it is processed for me, and there is no excuse for anybody not doing this. the technology exists. so it comes down to the probability that a bad guy could go and guess relocation. in amazon web services, you have more than 3.5 billion objects. they have to know which one to go for it here that have to break your access. then they have to break the description on the of jets. the probability of stealing your

data and getting away with an attack is vanishingly small. >> i think you address one of my concerns, which was the security of my data out on the cloud, but you raised a new question -- who owns my data? what if i do want it to go away? >> there are very challenging concerns. certainly, governed by state boundaries. for example, numerous canadians do not want their data in american dissenters. under a land the vessels, that can be subject to inspection and seizure. all the regulations relate to national boundaries there as well. a cloud providers actually end up having to meet numerous diverse regulatory requirements related to where data may resign and how it may be encrypted. there are different purchase centers for different christian center's and countries -- there are different encryption centers

for different regions and countries. i think amazon wishes they could make it go away the same way they imagine the sales tax would go away sunday. [laughter] >> but is it clear that i own my data? >> it is clear that you own your data, but it is not clear that somebody with the opprobrious search and seizure warrants cannot just make off with it, too. and, of course, you know, here is the scary one. the fbi says there is an attack coming out of those few racks over there, and they walked out with several companies entire computer set up just because some guy in one of those was doing a bad thing. that is scary. >> unfortunately, we have time for only one last question. weber has the microphone, please. then maybe it is a mistake, but i have the microphone. i came to this lecture trying to

find a definition of what cloud computing is. maybe i understand a little better, but i still do not have its in the simple terminology that i understand. my other question is from my point of view as a user of computing services, i have recently had the experience with a couple of banks going through a total change of their website, which caused me no end of aggravation to try to continue my accessing of my data, and i had the feeling, and i think you kind of touched on this, that for maybe financial reasons or because you technology people are so influential in the world you convinced these banks they had to do this, it just really made my life miserable for a couple of weeks trying to figure

out how to use their new system. i mean, it seems to me that -- you know, i had the impression that technology people are sort of making work for themselves by influencing institutions that they need to change what they have already in place. i still go by the old model -- if it is not broken, do not fix it. so i am opposing these questions to the senate panel. >> those are great observations. i am in my mid-40's by now, and there are programming languages used regularly that just did not exist five years ago. when you hear these guys talk, it is like gobbledygook to me. you get old with your music. you get old with your skills sets. it is just the way it is. because we are a technology-

driven society, and we have completely inverted the traditional way back societies were built when -- where when you were older, what you learned was survival skill, and you were right. that is the problem. the young guys are right, and the old guys take it in the net. cloud computing -- let me try a simple one for you. used to be in the old days that everybody had their own electricity generating plant. people would generate electricity locally for their own production means for their own factory. that got turned into a utility. the economics and study of that is very interesting. there's a fabulous book called "the big switch" which basically tracks that history. think of what clout is doing to computing is being analogous. instead of having to own and run your own software and hardware and computer systems, these things simply become services that you acquired by some

horribly complicated plug. so it becomes viable economically -- the economics are compelling. you can consume by plugging in. you have to plug, yes, it is still the case that you know too much, but it is really that, that turning computation into a utility that can be consumed as opposed to requiring human to surround previous manifestations of the technology. >> i thank the panel for coming here today. we also thank our audience here for those listening and viewing. now, this meeting of the commonwealth club of california commemorating its 108th year of discussion is adjourned.

[applause] >> it gives me great pleasure to introduce the captain of this great ship, captain harnden. [applause] >> well, mr. secretary, admiral sir, generals, it may years, commanding officers, federal,

state, local, civic leaders, this really is a senior leader seminar. welcome to bonhomme richard. we're excited to be here in san francisco and honored. i want to thank you for the fresh water washdown. we do not get enough of it in a san diego. the bonhomme richard is an amphibious assault ship designed to carry a flexible mix of marine and navy units all around the world to accomplish a broad spectrum of missions, from humanitarian and disaster relief, all the way to combat missions. it can operate anywhere and can sustain forces either from the air or from the sea. i think it is appropriate to be this avenue. i cannot think of a better place to accomplish these missions. i was asked to get a little history of bonhomme richard.

it is a french name. if you wonder why, it was a ship that was donated to the colonial navy when they were fighting in the revolution. the name is in honor of benjamin franklin. , bonhomme richard good man richard. in france, it was captain by john paul jones. it went on the campaign off but the british isles to take the word to the british. it ended in a battle against a top of the ship. the bonhomme richard is not. the bottom line is that they had no right to win. there were sinking. half the crew was dead. the crew did what they had no right to do, and they won that battle through climbing in the yard arms, hand-to-hand, and they eventually to the other ship. bonhomme richard sunk next day.

it is a great testament to what sailors can do in a testament to defeating diversity. the crew on board today are just as a heroic, when you see the things they do every day, as those heroes were in 1779. again, i want to welcome you here. i hope you get a chance to see some of the ship as you walk around when you do tours talk to some the sailors and marines who operate it. i am is available for questions about the sheep. i will turn it over to the fleet week folks. thank you again for your hospitality. [applause] >> all right, dave told me to take this, so i am is already breaking the rules. he is our stage manager today. good morning. i am with the san francisco fleet week board of directors. we are very pleased to have the senior leadership seminar taking place this year on the bonhomme richard.

just a little quick remark, in may 2010, i got a phone call saying to come on over for lunch, so we can talk about fleet week. i showed up in a room over at the marine memorial, and he had a big chart laid out and had a bunch of his friends sitting there and said, you are all going to be volunteers. isn't this great? then he proceeded to tell me about a wonderful idea that one of our honor read cochairs that, former secretary of state george shultz. he said since we have all these military folks in san francisco, why don't we use the opportunity to do some training to better prepare ourselves for disaster response, so we took that mission very seriously. we talked about having a tabletop exercise in 2010. but if you know anything but tabletop exercise, and i think a lot of you people do, the back room planning is just an incredible process. hours and hours and hours are put in for every hour of the

table top exercise. but what we did decide to do in 2010 is during fleet week, on uss macon island, we held a senior leadership program for disca and related a briefing on steroids. so we set the foundation for going forward for future fleet weeks, in which we have a common understanding of what the program means. but we promised that in 2011, we would visit the notion of a tabletop exercise. in september, this past september, we did in fact have the table top exercise. and i have to tell you, the folks who did the planning did an incredible job. there are agencies, federal, state, and local agencies, the military folks, but i have to give a special shot up to the san francisco department of emergency management for the

incredible job that they did in planning that in for planning and working on this whole program. the sentences the department of emergency management team was just incredible. thank you for that. i also want to thank the port of san francisco for helping us with all of the birthings, and here we are today on the bonhomme richard. today, we have a rather robust program. look at page 13, and you'll see the agenda. it is right there on the page and will unfold, but we start the program talking about the table top exercise and how that all went, and then we go on to having various assets and various perspectives of disaster response and humanitarian aid -- humanitarian assistance in foreign countries. it will be a wonderful opportunity to learn about each other and what we do. at the end of the day, we will have a recession right here on

the hangar deck. in addition to that, i also want to say that there are other parts of the humanitarian assistance to disaster response program. for instance, i will give you some highlights that are also in the program, but for the second year in a row, the san francisco fire department has done a fabulous job setting is up for an urban search and rescue program for our friends in the military who are visiting. in addition, we have a humanitarian assistance of eligible be set up on the marina green. that will host a medical exchange program. antiwhite to -- and thank you to cal said the medical center for help with that. we have a great program. i should point out some administrative things. if there's any kind of emergency event while we are here, the crew of the bonhomme richard

will immediately make themselves present and will help everybody get off the ship. we have to bathrooms to the right over there. from there, i will ask mike, the chairman of the san francisco fleet week board of directors, to come on up. thank you. [applause] >> safety is important, and my instructions from the stage manager is that we were to use the stairs. i do want to thank all of you for being here, and i especially want to thank the folks that have made all this possible in the program, there are the folks that sponsored the senior leader seminar, and hewlett- packard has done an aging -- an amazing job in helping us put this together, along with

california pacific medical center, harris corporation. i do not want to offend anybody, but they're all in the program. i want to thank you so much. fleet week is very expensive to put on. we pay for things like the fuel for the air show. we pay for the transportation. we pay for the restrooms, trash disposal, and all those kinds of things. the sponsors have been terrific in helping us out. i do want to tell you that this is an important event to me personally, because i in my previous life, i was commanding the first marine division in april of 1992. we had been to the gulf war. we had been in all these parades. we were fat, dumb, and happy down at camp pendleton. and then in april of 1992, the results of the rodney king trial were announced. as a result of the result of the

trial, we had the largest riot history. we had 300 people killed, 3000 people wounded. and we found ourselves, two days later, with the first win division in the seventh infantry division in los angeles to quell the riots. and we discovered that all the individual cities had their on police and fire departments, but none of them had communications that they could talk to each other. so we had to provide the interoperable communications. but we also had a huge a language pis when you tell a fireman fire, that is a different meaning than when you tell a marine fire. so the whole exchange of lexicon and working together, the importance of that, i said personally i would never liked this -- never like to see this kind of situation happen again.

it really turns out that the military was actually put in charge of that operation. and i think it was not good for the relationships in the count of los angeles or anything else. so i said, never again. well, this kind of drill that we're going through here, working together with the civilians and the military, i can assure you, at one time in our future, we're going to be glad that we have done this. so that is my personal story gang of whites think this is so important. we are really blessed in the last that is my personal story of why i think this is so important. the mayor has a very busy schedule running the city and county of san francisco. but he is here and it's going to make some opening remarks because the mayor ed lee, if you would please come forward. since the department of emergency management is concerned about safety, i will ask you to come up these stairs

and give us some remarks. please help meet welcome mayor ed lee. [applause] >> well, good morning. welcome to sunny san francisco. thank you again, general, for your work as chair of our fleet regas association but you haven't really done a tremendous job. i wanted to add to your personal story. you know, i was sent over by former mayor gavin newsom to new orleans a few years ago, and we study what had happened there, and we realized that one of the things that had occurred in new orleans was a breakdown between city government and the neighborhoods, and such that when the hurricane hit and the flooding happened, so many people left the city, and then they did not come back. because there was no

relationship between local government and many of the neighborhoods and many of the residence. that lesson burned in my mind for a very long time. so it is that much more important, general, that when you put this fleet we together, that you made a disaster preparedness a thing -- the inme vision to the celebration of our armed forces. you have not only touch our city government, but you have helped me touch every neighborhood in this city. that is what we need to do in all of our cities. so thank you very much, general, for your leadership on this. thank you. [applause] i also wanted again our honorary chair, former secretary schulz. you have been such a great leader here. i want to thank you for putting this together. i know senator feinstein could not be here, that p is extremell in reminding us that we owe a

great debt of gratitude to our armed forces in the city. i'm not to thank our chief protocol officer for welcoming the officials and visitors here as well. i also want to thank captain harnden again for an impressive ship we have here today. you are occupying the space that in a couple years will hold the ships that will raise at the america's cup 34. it will be right here. some of the team ships will be located right here. for now, this is a great occupancy of this particular pier. i look forward to this afternoon when i can see all the equipment located up the stairs as the sun comes shining up. every year, the fleet week is of course paying tribute to the women and men and are proudly serving in our navy and our coastguard and our marines, and is remarkable that in recent years, this week has developed into a much more than just the

sight and sound of the parade of ships and the blue angels. the newly established focus on disaster preparedness is an invaluable in addition to our city. since 2004, our city has conducted approximately 100 exercises with the leadership of our department of the marjah thing management. additionally, approximately 250 training exercises, workshops city-wide, have been conducted with first responders and other key city officials and many of these training and exercises have gone well beyond our government agencies. they now agree non-government, a eighth-based, and community- based organizations, businesses, and schools. we have revamped our city's outdoor public warning system, using homeland security funding. and today, there are 109 sirens with voice and tone capabilities

located throughout the city. as part of our regular exercise on tuesday afternoons in our afternoon testing, we record announcements that are in english, followed by spanish and chinese in some of the areas that we have also enacted alert, saidsf anaya personal use on a weekly basis, to make sure that things are correctly being sent out to all of our citizens who sign up. that text-based system delivered emergency information to cell phones, pda's, e-mail account, and 16,500 have signed up for a largesf. we had our award winning website, 72hours.org to help create emergency plans, bill disaster kids, and get involved in training before disaster

occurred and volunteered to help out afterwards to that information is available in english, spanish, chinese, russian, and vietnamese. in addition, we also have a fun website, a website called quakequizsf.org. it's as the knowledge of what to do when an earthquake struck at home, driving, public transit, or even at the beach or at work. we have also enhanced our preparedness to throughout the city departments, using homeland security funds to conduct training, planning, and exercises, as well as bridges valuable in equipment. since 2003, san francisco and the bay area region have received approximately $322 million in home and security grants for that training and equipment. some of our other r