the on the first two region beyond the first two? >>jpk support. she called me and looked to me as support. i wanted to be there to support her through whatever she was going through. but i wanted to check in with her. she was very upset. >> you called her to offer emotional support 5:38 repeatedly zero of the day. >> especially when she calls me and wants me to call her back. the support does not just end as soon as the phone call is over, especially when she wants to keep talking to you. >> i agree, that is important and an act of friendship, but i

was asking you about the number of phone calls because you only reference two. >> objection. >> sustained. >> i will move on. >> here is another call we have not discussed before and during your this one is at 5:38 -- we have not discussed before. this one is at 5:38, and it lasts five-. it comes shortly after the final e-mailed. i clicked all of my papers together, and it was going to be great. this comes after the final e- mail ms. lopez wrote to ivory madison. i am just about to establish the time. there we go. you have spoken to her at 5:27

for 4 minutes. she e-mails that last e-mail, i am so sorry you misunderstood everything, and that is the last e-mail in the record of exhibit 834 communications -- exit 80f 3or -- exhibit 83 for communications, and shortly after you called for 5 minutes. you have any recollection of that? >> no, i do not. >> you remember ms. lopez â&zãºg ms. mattison, that she understood everything? >> no. >> sorry.

power point would have been so much better, so from 5 car 48 you talked for five minutes. -- 5:48 you talk for five minutes. that brings us to 5:43. this was supposed to be 5:43 untilñ"-" there were several attempts by you to call share of mirkarimi -- sheriff mirkarimi, and you texted, call me. you know what you wanted him to call at that point? >> i do not recall. most likely i was checking in to see if they were ok. >> to the best of your recollection you were trying to

provide support? thwacks and to make sure they were connected. new -- >> to make sure they were connected. >> at 5:51, you may recognize this from the paper, eliana texts, you have to call hennessy and stop this before something happens. ivory is giving the investigators everything. use your power. from that phone call you have, did you know that lopez was going to text the sheriff? >> absolutely not. >> she did not tell you about planned communications? >> absolutely not. she was forming? >> she only shared her emotions?

>> that is correct. >> after that text, there is a series of back-and-forth between you and mrs. lopez, and at 5:57, you talked to ms. lopez again for seven-. you recommend -- to you recollect now the purpose of that call? >> i do not. ñ she suggested calling mike hennessey? >> she did not. >> in the middle of that phone t a response, i cannot and neither

can he. you have to reject the actions. we both do. i cannot involve new people. did she tell you about getting that text? . >> the you know what it meant -- did you know what it meant? >> that is speculation. >> i am asking. >> i did not. >> ok, so that comes in at 5:51. no, that is wrong. i apologize. that comes in at 6:01 in the middle of a phone call you are having with lopez the glass until 6:00 for -- that lasts until 6:04, so you hang up and

then call sheriff mirkarimi. you know what that is about? >> i do not recall. eheriff, and says, do not write any other thing. answer the call. she has advised now. you know what that is about? >> i do not know what that is about. >> what advice did you have? >> the only advice i had is that they both needed to get attorney's separately. >> did you tell her to stop writing texts? >> i did not. >> did you tell her to tell the things? >> i did not know.

>> how did she know to call buckthe sheriff? >> i do not know. >> the device was just for legal counsel? apraxias. 57 6:06, she makes another suggestion to her husband. you should not be in a public space and go to sleep with pat. the know who that is? >> i do not know. the only thing i can think of is his relative named patricia. >> did you give any advice he should not be in public and should not sleep at home? >> i did not. >> you are passed your first estimate and your second estimate. >> i am doing my best. >> if there is something you would save 4 last, get there. >> i am there.

moving off of january 4. here are some texts for exhibit 81, and you can see this is from january 8 at 12:00 p.ma.m, and you write, what is the salary range of staff? back to the priorip the next one says, i still need to send you the resume of someone that would be good. we were too busy before. do you know what that refers to? >> i was pregnant and getting ready for my baby boy that i

have now. that is probably what this was. >> 5 was not a reference to this activity on january 4? >> no. >> you still feel confident after the scandal erupts around january 4 that you can still make objections about the chief of staff? >>e good >> overruled. >> if i have good people to refer, i would refer them. >> here is my last exhibit. this is also from exhibit 81. it is a little further along. it saysh/õuw text from you to se of mirkarimi. it is on january 12 at 9:42 p.m., and it is very lengthy.

i wanted to put it in so the context is there, although what i really want to focus on is the last part. do you want to read this first? >> you have a copy? i can look at it. >> ok. can i have it while you are asking questions? >> i need the last one for the overhead.

make sure you have a copy. you have to flip around for it. can you see that quickly? >> i can see this. >> i just want to start at the very end. can you read that for me from then answered now? >> why don't you start from the beginning so is ni context. >> i want to start from the and. >> remember when time passes, i cannot express how disappointed we are with her. this will pass. stay strong. we are with you. >> who is a beverly?

>> beverly ofupton. >> what are you disappointed with her about? >> she has been a friend and someone i have worked with, and i have always supported her. i have put myself out there, and i respected her. i was disappointed w there was not an investigation about domestic violence, get people were doing rallies before the investigation came out, so that was my disappointment, and i have heard from the community that we care so much about eliana, and i was shocked there was a rally, and she was walking

into city hall and they did not know who she not get the center of these conversations, and that is what i meant by that. >> by january 12, hadn't eliana already told you her husband had injured+p >> she said he bruised her arm, but he was not what they were making him out to be. >> in your mind on january 12 he was an insurer but not a batterer? >> objection. >> sustained. b> objection, relevance. >> you can answer about one. gooaxe no one should ever lay hs

on anyone, and people should be accountable for what they do. my problem is there was not an investigation for what was happening. zkqwrwóthere was an investigato e8r this? eliana is letting me know people are not trying to figure out what happened, and instead, the media is coming out with h lies every other day, and i know this secos -- because eliana told me her story, and i remember. good why was she calling me and wanted to talk and tell her story?

if with domestic violence you have said, isn't it true when someone is in with a domestic violence relationship, but when they want to leave, more violence can happen. that is usually if a batterer is going to hurt a person, it is when the person leaves 5 per cent. i had a real problem -- is when that person leaves. i have a problem trying to hear what was in the media, and they are talking about domestic violence and leaking information about the case. if they really cared about eliana and theo and they were really in a situation of extreme abuse, then all the leaks they put out there, they could have been killed, and i was disappointed by how the

domestic violence department handled alive. if she was a woman in that situation, she could have seen her. --been hurt. thank god she wasn't. >> why were you disappointed in beverly about how eliana would have been in more danger? >> you have not answered that question. sustained. >> on wrote, innocence beforex]m did you know when you wrote that committed domestic violence against his wife? >> objection, relevance.

>> she has said she knew about the bruising of the arm on january 1, so we know she knew it at the time of this e-mailf is that is what you are trying to get at. >> as long as you know that. did the sheriff' ever admit to you that he injured his wife? >> he did. >> when did he do that? >> i think that day when i had to call him because eliana asked him to. he was ashamedól88çf it, and he felt it was wrong. >> did it change your view about the domestic violence movement or the advocates and who was against him? did it change your view at all

when the sheriff pleaded guilty? >> objection, relevance. >> sustained. good price when you were speaking to the sheriff's -- >> when you were speaking to the sheriff, did he ever tell you he had a duty to make sure the investigation was on hampered -- unhampered? >> he did not. >> when you were speaking to the sheriff january 4 or afterwards, did he tell you he was trying to live up to a standard of unflinching honesty and full accountability? clark said he did not --÷)=geie did not. >> did he ever express any concern about the fact that his actions on december 31 and subsequently would have on the sheriff's department?

parts he did not. quex hannity ever thank you -- >> they he ever thank you -- did he ever thank you? >> sustained. waxed almost done. your declaration says -- >> almost done. your declaration says, at no time did i dissuade any witnesses from cooperating with an investigation. >> i did not. >> you tried when you spoke to our free madison? >> i did not. >> new coach -- you coached eliana about what to say to witnesses? >> i did not. >> you sent e-mails and ahmad >> i did not.

>> who encouraged her to make phone calls to ivory madison and to try to dissuade her from talking to the police? >> i did not. >> your declaration says at no time did ross mirkarimi asked me to help dissuade witnesses, but he knew you were trying to clean up the mess he made with his wife. >> that is argumentativî >> sustained. >> he was counting on you to help him get past scandal and to sue the rihanna -- to sooth eliana. >> objection. >> i have not heard the foundation. i think you have out and got negative answers, so i am going to sustain the objection. >> you told him you tried to get ivar madison to send the police away, didn't you? di. lkñ>> he ne?

>> no. >> he knew on january 4 that eliana was working with you to try to keep madison and williams from talking to investigation -- 75ágx >> objection. >> did he ever tell you he knew what you were doing? >> of section. >> sustained. >> did he ever express any concern about the appearance of having his campaign manager in the middle of this scandal and talking to witnesses on january 4? >> no, there was no -- no. >> he never approach you about wanting to set things straight or wanting to make it clear that your role had nothing to do with

being campaign manager. >> objection, vague. >> you understand the question? >> i do not understand the question. >> try it again. iswg -- didgain. he ever approach you about trying to make clear either privately to the witnesses or publicly why you as his campaign manager were involved in the events of january 4? >> objection, relevance. >> are you aware of any time he has ever spoke out about your role for his understanding of why you were enmeshed in these events on january 4? >> no.

>> that is all i have. >> any rebuttal? there i asked how long? >> 5 minutes. i am one of the lawyers representing chirac's -- sheriff mirkarimi. have you and i ever met? >> no. >> it is nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> you were ask questions about not speaking to an investigator or other representatives of the city attorney's office. do you remember that? >> yes. >> the you remember someone trying to contact you? >> yes. >> why did you not speak to that person?

>> from the beginning, because all this started when it was in the d.a.'s hahands, i told the investigators are was pregnant, so i think i was four months pregnant, and and the second time around i was seven months pregnant. i am older. it is my first child, so they considered me a high-risk pregnancy, and i was having medical and health complications, so i told the investigator i was pregnant, older, high risk, and my doctor i let them know that i needed to respect my doctor, up because my child is the most important saying -- thing for me to focus on. >> after you communicated that with the investigator, did that person leave you alone?

>> no, i felt harassed. they came to my work a couple times. they came to my house. i had an investigator and a police officer come to my house on sunday evening. when the sun was about to come down and i open the window they said, we want to talk to you, and i said, who are you? they had to show me the bad, and i said, no, thank you. they wanted to come into my house and start talking to me. >> it made me feel unsafe. it made me feel very stress. >> were you concerned about how that might affect your health and that of your baby? >> my healbaby was the most important. i always wanted to cooperate. i never wanted to not cooperate, but the way they were harassing me, it was very stressful.

>> you alsoge3el questions about your loyalty as the campaign manager for ross mirkarimi. >> yes. >> i think you testified you felt like in order to be a campaign manager you had to believe in what they stood for it? >> that is right. >> why was it you agreed to become the campaign manager for cross mirkarimi and? >> i really believe in what he wanted to do. i believe he had a track record. sometimes candidates can say a lot of things, and it can sound great, but i want to know what you have done to make it happen. what is your track record? ox5áypross mirkarimi had a trak record of looking out for the reverse communities, of changing the landscape -- looking out for communitieg

the landscape for public safety, and he really understood the prison industrial complex, and he really understood about people having another chance, and instead of us paying for people to be locked up, to give people an opportunity to be accountable for their actions and to have an opportunity to make it change and be productive citizens, so i believe he would continue to build on sheriff hennessy cost's legacy, and icy campaign management as in duty. if you can do it for other -- i see campaign management as a duty. i have another job. it is something i do from my heart and from pashtun. -- and from pashtuion.

i believe he will make san francisco a better place. >> you asked about -- you were asked about the man they asked to serve as his campaign manager. that was for seven months to? >> 2 month. >> was that a big enough some to get you to lie under oath for the share of -- sheriff? >> no fee would be enough. >> is everything you have testified absolutely truthful? >> absolutely truthful. >> is there something you want to say? >> i guess i will wait. >> very briefly.