some of us think about outreach like going to focus groups. that is all good, but that is just the tip of the iceberg. as one who represents the first people, my concern at has been stated by some of the speakers here is that we cannot afford to use hetch hetchy water, good water, to flush our commodes. that is a crime, so as these new buildings come up, we have to emphasize gray water. we are now embarking on an education, and out there, we

have a lot. the ability to discern and get the best information is education. that is what we need to do right now. do we have people, astute people in the bay area, that can discern and bring the best education to form these types of models that we can use in a digital world. that is our challenge. it is not a huge challenge, but it is a challenge. we have the best people in the entire world right here in the bay area. thank you very much. president moran: thank you. ms. jackson? >> thank you. espinola jackson, bayview hunters point. i listened very carefully to

some of the statements that were being made. i remember when we were getting our sewage, this commission was talking about raising the sewage years ago. what we stated at that time, and i am going to state it again, because i know you were not here. one of the ways that you can get information is through the sewage bill. everybody gets a sewage bill. and put it in the different languages so they will know what is going on. that is the best way in the world. that is old hat. now, we talked about the .e. -- th e -- the e.r. less than six months during the america's cup. now, i know you can do the same

for bayview hunters point. my good friend, commissioner caen, we can talk about as low- income -- i get $991 per month social security. a figure that out by 12 months, that came to $11,892, i think. do you know what? we have a lot of old people in the community, older than me, that get less than $20,000 per year, and there should be away like at&t do or those of us who are aging, give us a lifeline, so find out what the income is

so that we can then be on a lifeline. if you send me something and say, "what should i pay?" i would say, "nothing." i am serious. because you have been here 50 years, and i have been paying and paying, so do not charge me anything. i would say the zip code should be exempt. thank you. president moran: espinola, we are not old. we are chronologically gifted. >> ok, sweetheart. about the sewage bill, everyone get one, so that would be a way of getting information of getting something out, and thank you so much. you have a blessed evening, and i am going to go before they close the front door. president moran: thank you.

>> good afternoon, commissioners. first of all, a want to let you know that i am definitely in support of the project moving forward. i am not only a native san franciscan, i was also born and raised in san francisco. my parents came from another area and bought their first house about a four-minute walk from another address and about a six-minute walk to the plant. i have been exposed to that aroma, and i think as we move forward and the proposals have been presented here, there are a couple of things i want to stress. as a community, we are not looking for jobs anymore. these people need to make sure

that they have a career, especially when the construction industry jobs are very short. i've always tried to remind people that these are temporary jobs. when you think you have made it, then the jobs are cut. i am definitely supporting fact that we should started in the middle school. i am also asking that the consultants go back and if they have not done that, make sure they implement aid internships program -- an internship program. the other thing i would like to echo, as ms. jackson already mentioned, please look at the rate increase in the next year. there are going to be a lot of people who are not going to be able to afford that, and i think it is important to revisit the construction schedule. my district that i represent,

the district that i was born in, and the district i have a business in, we have waited long enough. i really feel that we can step up hope for the construction process and give the community while we have been waiting for a long time. thank you very much. president moran: thank you. yes, please. >> commissioners, i am -- from bayview hunters point. congratulations to them for putting together a long anticipated plan, and part of the moving forward that we mentioned earlier is your endorsement of the resolution moving forward again, because there are projects, are dependent on some of the actions because of their sequencing, so from our community perspective, we would like to unanimously endorse this project.

president moran: yes, sir? >> i thank you for the opportunity. my name is -- first of all, i want to thank mr. harrington for his involvement with the city. he has been a great supporter. i hate to see you go, but i know you have got other things to do. and i want to congratulate everyone for making mr. kelly the new representative. i know personally, i am and american samoa and have lived here all of my life, and bayview is my home, too. i grew up on the hill, watching the things change. what i am really looking for, the new years to come, you provide directions and policy for him, because i see us growing out there. i see more people getting

involved, and for those people who do not know, bayview has become very divorce, so we want to keep that in mind, and we want to thank you again for making him the new general manager. we hope everything works out well. thank you very much for your time. president moran: thank you. miss? >> thank you very much. jennifer, clean water action. i apologize i did not come to the private workshop, probably why i was so confused with the presentation, but i would like to say that i support the resolution. i have a couple of changes i would like to suggest. the first is just a little typo, saying that the bill is less than the average household income. epa calculates that on median household income, maybe you can

just change that? as i stated before, when you adopted the level of services, there is nothing really environmental year, and one thing the sewer system has done, it has pretty much destroyed the environment by channeling it every creek in san francisco, which analyze it -- channeling every creek and san francisco -- in san francisco. a policy that the water enterprise has in adopting and implementing batch as part of the sfip, so that would be one suggestion, and it could be something like implement the stewardship policy and the implementation of the dream projects. something basic like that. and next, i would just like to

support what david pilpel said, about it going down, and i think it will be more dramatic. i am going to be on social security by the time this is implemented, and i will not be spending of four $200 per month on my sewer bill. i am going to have composting toilets and rainwater harvesting on my roof. i am going to do everything i can to conserve water. i want to congratulate the sfpuc, because you are ahead of others in looking at this. i want you to continue looking at that as this program comes in. as you increase your alternative water supply program, that is something that you should think about expanding to those communities, as well, and finally, when you talked about

integrating green and gray, i am not really sure what that means. i am not sure what the percentage of green and gray is, and i will leave that to the eir to figure it out. when there were talking about the ipad survey they did for the waste water enterprise, you know at the same time, you were doing one for the recycled water program, and did you need to do that? my time is up. thank you. president moran: thank you. any further comment? ok, commissioners, what is your pleasure? it has been moved and seconded. no other comment, all of those in favor? opposed? the resolution carries. [applause]

the next item is for public comment on matters enclosed session. i would just like to say that we would love to stay here all evening. we have to get out of the room though at 6:00, and they need it actually ahead of time so they can set it up for the entertainment commission, so i would ask forbearance and brevity in the public comments, but, mr. pilpel, you had a public comment? >> david pilpel, just to comment on wages, benefits, and working conditions. i think something in the 255 to 275 range would be something for the new general manager and benefits in terms to a department head 5 and the related provisions in the

agreement i think makes sense, and looking very much forward to him as general manager, and thank you all for your diligence today and continuing diligence on the commission. president moran: thanks. secretary hood: did you already speak, or did you have a card? >> in the bay area, there has been a big population, and we have been out there, too, so when you do the consideration, please throw us in, and we have got a high unemployment rate. we are about almost 70%, so if you can keep that in mind, i would appreciate it. president moran: thank you very much. item 12, can i have a motion on whether to assert the attorney- client privilege on matters

during the closed session? moved to assert? any comments? all of those in favor? opposed? the motion carries. >> commissioners, i mentioned earlier, i do not know if there was any damage due to that sinkhole, but there was damage, so we close the school, , so there is more damage, and we are working on it. president moran: thank you. madam secretary, if you could please call items 13 and 14? secretary hood: item number 13, pursuant to government code section 54957 for the hiring of the general manager of the san francisco public utilities commission and pursuant to government code section 54954,

and 67.8 (a5), and 54956.9 (a) and 67.10 (d1). president moran: ok, let's take item 14 first? commissioner: are we enclosed session? secretary hood: we are not enclosed session. [no audio] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org--