bit of -- more reaction than we can add other parts. but please respect of speaker and please respect this process. let's not the way things are having a link the outburst, please. thank you. >> lpmy name is francisco. i am standing here on behalf of -- >> please, speaking to the microphone. i'm having trouble hearing you. >> use the microphone, sir. >> oh, sorry. i'm here on behalf of ross mirkarimi and his wife and little boy. i am understand human rights. like the lady that talk about injustice.

[unintelligible] the commission is not ready to take on our sheriff. [unintelligible] i want to also congratulate -- [tone] the attorney for ms. lopez, and

also the attorney for sheriff. keep fighting. do not give up. we are always behind you. thank you. >> hello. my name is james. i've volunteered down at united players. not long ago mr. mirkarimi spoke. he is a compassionate man he has his heart in it the people in the city in our communities.

not a lot of people do these days. i hope you keep that in mind. >> i am glad to see ross back with his wife and his family. i am the executive director of a youth program called united players. personally, i don't know what happened. but don't nobody know what happened except him and his wife and god. i do not that we should put judgment on anybody. it's as in the bible that if i tell you about the splintered in your eye, what about the log in your eye? i'm not here to speak about the issues. i'm here to tell you what i know about him personally. i have been here 17 years now and for me to come out and speak for somebody, to support

him, it is serious for me. i truly believe the actions that i have seen ross do in the city of san francisco have saved lives. the streets speak about ross. they are out there, the families, the kids, the mothers, they see what impact he made on the people out there when he was district supervisor. he always came out and demonstrated through his actions that he cared for other people. i see how much it affects somebody when you take their kids away from somebody, because it almost happened to me. i commend our brother. there is a lot of violence going on on the streets. we need someone like him to step up. [tone] i will say this and then i will finish. there is something about forgiveness. a lot of people do not know about forgiveness. but when you forgive others, god will forgive you for your staff.

i loved san francisco. . san francisco has a love for ross. thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. my husband was the sixth homicide last year. to see an official, a city official, somebody who sits on the board, come to where we are and here are stories and comfort us, not for votes, but because he truly cared meant a lot to me. and do not have a right to vote? you people will not say specifically, but you push it out. people in their offices drinking

white substance is everywhere, but they move to higher seat on panels, people that keep it a real and stayed with the people and try to make the communities grow and prosper, how come they get left out and pushed out? >> i have a 4-year-old daughter and a 16-year-old son and their daddy is in heaven. this gentleman cannot even lawfully be with his own life because of political smearing. it means to stop. we care about what happens in the communities. someone that has a strong hand in law enforcement because they care. god bless. [applause] >> good afternoon. i am a citizen and i have been teaching at san francisco state for 16 years.

the first time i met ross he said to me, you are not very politically involved out, are you? and i said, not really. i like to teach my students about the process. >> we talk about spin. we look at euphemisms and that kind of thing. my children, though, are more politically active than i am. they got caught up in the campaign. during that campaign, i got to meet all of the constituents from all over san francisco, men and women from all sorts of economic and educational backgrounds and from all sorts of causes and grouped and to a person, they were behind ross because of what he did, not because of what he said, but because of how he changed their lives. i became a pretty big supporter for ross myself.

and then when this incident happened and i got to witness the way the "chronicle" handled it, the way mayor ed lee handled it, the way the supervisors handled it, i lost my faith again in politics. i can't believe that anyone, after the joe indiana haze white incident several years ago, my god, that this man is being hung out to dry like this. i just ask that you guys find it within yourself that we as citizens depend on politicians to break the storyo types that so often we have of them. do you know what i mean? i wasn't ready to speak, but i just hope that you look and listen to what you said and do the right thing. thank you. >> hello, commissioners, my name is babette hogan, i'm a eighth generation san

franciscan and in 12 years i have seen a lot of ross' work. when i first moved to that district, i was a little afraid of my neighborhood. but that was quickly overcome in part by the great work that ross did on the streets in my hood. so i am very appreciative of his work. i would like to also speak to you as a media professional, a media professional who not at all been falsely arrested recently in another state where conditions between journalists and the sheriff's department is not quite so easy. i would like to commend the relationship that our police officers hold with the citizens of san francisco. we have a fabulous, fabulous county and i'm very proud of it. i do not believe that our media has properly represented what

has ghon on and for that i am ashamed of our media. our first amendment rights are insulted when paid advocates can come and make their arguments for a national case using alp case that is complete taken out of context and out of reality for political gain. i ask that you consider true and long-term democracy for our city and county of which i am very proud. thanks very much. [applause] >> my name is alex, i'm a lawyer here in the city. the question before us and before you is whether or not our sheriff committed official

misconduct. official misconduct when you look at the plane language of the time, misconduct by one who is in office. he was not in office. therefore, he cannot commit official misconduct. i mean what official misconduct would mean if he had been in office, that's another question. that question is not you are really asked to answer. the question is whether he committed official misconduct. and ross who i have known for a long time did not commit official misconduct because he wasn't in office. it's that simple. he has done a an awful lot good for this city as a supervisors, as a sheriff and i would ask that you reinstate him in office. thank you. [applause] >> hi, i'm jeannie maher. like so many others, a resident of this city and i want to thank you all for the time that

you have devoted to this matter. i don't envy you having to have done that. but thank you again. i think that we have heard some very thoughtful comments from a number of people on both sides. i did hear a supporter of ross mirkarimi tell me at the end of this process, we will find a man much better than he began. i can only hope that that is the case. i think that that is possibly the only thing that we and his family can do is hope that he will find from this experience that his conduct was not becoming to whether he is sheriff designate or sheriff. i cannot imagine that someone

incarcerated in the jail for domestic violence would want to sit and listen to him talk to them about what they should avoid doing. i don't know that that is possible and i really beg you to consider what it is that you have to decide and what you have to refer on to the board of supervisors and the outcome of your actions. thank you. >> good afternoon, my name is tracy brown and i came before you to share the club resolution of keeping ross mirkarimi for sheriff. this case really comes down to

two women and their truths. my friend eliana lopez and lynette peralta haynesworth. these are two women with small children, two women whose lives have been torn apart about these events. this is a san francisco that belongs to families and values family. yet this is a san francisco that has went after two women with families and almost drove them away. i heard testimony that lynette was harassed during her work hours, during her high risk pregnancy. this is not my san francisco. i expect my san francisco to be a san francisco that values families, that helps families, that provides services and interventions to families. my san francisco values a process that is fair and equitable and a process that is the same and consistent across the board. this is not what i'm saying. this is not how these kinds of cases play out. my san francisco treats

everyone equally. please, please this is up to you guys. please let this be our san francisco. please let this be a san francisco that we are proud of that values families that does not allow for political games to get in the way of small children's lives. thank you so much for your time. >> ok, we're going to stop right now. this is it.

>> i want to say one thing for commissioners. the court reporter has been going for three hours which as someone who is familiar with court reporters, that is not ok. this is not evidence and does not have to be included in the official record. is there an oto the court reporter not taking public comment from the parties? >> no. >> no. >> we will continue to record as we always do public comment, but it will not be tribed because it's not part of the evidence in the case. thank you. >> can you go. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is valerie tullir. you have heard the same points

over and over again. i want to say what sheriff mirkarimi did was accept responsibility for what he believes was his wrong. does it raise to the level of misconduct, official misconduct, no, it doesn't. i'm a little bit concerned as a latina that eliana did not give permission for the d.v. community to make her a poster child. i understand why the d.v. community is connected, their pursestrings and grants are connected to the city commission and the city politics and i respect that. i respect people wanting to stick up for their purpose and for their funding. however, i do ask -- and i'm a former commissioner on the commission on the status of women, so i speak from experience. i do just ask for equity. i just ask for the justice to be even-handed. i know that the case for far

chief joanna hayes has come up and that was to the level of a 911 call. i just ask that if we are going to do justice that we do it fair across the field and that one person is not isolated and targeted as a feel that sheriff mirkarimi has been. the last time that i was here at the commission meeting, you all were very reasonable. i pray that you continue to be reasonable and fair. thank you very much. [applause] >> good afternoon. domestic violence is not a private matter as a woman and as a mother, i agree with that statement. however, an argument between a husband and a wife is. this was nothing more than that. i am more concerned with the mayor who perjures and himself gets away with it. i'm more concerned bay bomb threat that put everyone's life

supposedly in danger other than mayor lee's wife. this family loves each other, they are united, they are stronger than they have been and want to be with another. the political witch hunt is bent on destroying them. people are incorrectly saying that he was convicted of domestic abuse. he was never convicted of domestic abuse. he must act with ethics and justice and reinstate the democratically elected sheriff mirkarimi. thank you. [applause] >> good ann, i'm in the japan south community. i am astonished that this has gone on this far. if you want justice, if you want an equal playing level, i can't believe this is coming up before this commission. as previous speakers have said, there was a fire chief that had

a 911 incident. we had someone who pledged they will not run and i think those are more serious than this. so i think this needs to be dismissed. unbelievable. please dismiss this. [applause] >> just for the record, i don't live in san francisco, but i believe it's important for me to be here because whatever happens in san francisco can pass by in other cities or states even. so i am making a point about the bomb because it's really important because, you want to talk about ethics, how come you can talk about ethics and say to the people that were here they can die but nobody care

about the lives of others, only for the mayor. i believe that is not fair to hear that. about the family, the mirkarimi family, i really believe that he has to replace on his position because he was elected. this is a lovely family. they're finally after seven months, they are together for the first time, these persons are together. so think on justice for this family and for the people from san francisco who elected him to get that position and give back his pay because this man can't pay for a coffee at this moment. his son can't go school because he doesn't have money to pay for the school.4k(

thank you. [applause] >> good afternoon, my name is roger scott, i'm a teacher at city college and a long-time union activist. i have a high personal regard for sheriff mirkarimi. however, i would be here speaking on behalf of either of his two critics, the mayor and the district attorney if they were in the same position because i think there is no legal or procedural justification for removing him from his job. i think he has been treated especially in a very negative way that negates the popular choice of him as a sheriff. i also think that he has, there has been too much adverse publicity in the press owned by the distinguished 1%. i believe that the most revealing misstep in terms of justice for sheriff mirkarimi was the press conference by the district attorney when he said

with a straight face to the "chronicle" and other major media people, i had serious misgivings about the sincerity of his plea bargaining, of him during the plea bargaining. have you ever heard of a district attorney anywhere in the world question the sincerity of the defendant who chooses to make a plea bargain? i think that's the most revealing misstep in this whole history of denying him the due process based on the voters' choice and the due process he is guaranteed under the law in your procedures. thank you.t( >> good afternoon, commissionsers. my name is jose morales. i'm a member of many organizations in the city,

especially action network, san francisco union and of course this is not justice what is happening to ross. we stand for ross, you know, who i'm standing and i believe that he has been abused just for something that you call it domestic violence, but domestic violence, it was just an altercation, squeezing the arm of his wife in the heat of the argument and caused a little bruise. about why should that be considered domestic violence and battery when you believe that someone has been battered, you hit her with a bat. i would like you to really

reconsider what you are saying because i was in the room that you were questioning if this was domestic violence and all those problems. he has been an excellent, wonderful person as a supervisor. he has passed many laws and he has the ability to produce those laws and will be -- and i would like to say that, as the sheriff, he will be much superior to anyone, he wants to become as great as the previous sheriff hennessey. so i would like you to be really fair. do not be afraid of your position or the political. this is all political. eliana said she wasn't considered in that. >> thank you, sir. you're done.

[applause] i want to thank the public for your comments. we will be adjourned until 3:30. i would like to inform the parties, we're going to go, hopefully we're going to go as long as it takes, so we expect you will be here for as long as it takes. anything else from the commissioners regarding the schedule? we'll see you at 3

gosh we are back in session after the lunch recess and we will enter the deliberation phase of this herein. i want to remind the public or one the public, this will be no surprise to you that given the divergent views that we heard during public comment, i can almost assure you that you will hear something that you don't like coming out of them out as of the commissioners. i ask, that you respect the process. do not get in the clapping, during, or sounds from the audience. we need to focus and try to reach a resolution of this matter. i am instructing the sheriff.

excuse me. law-enforcement in the room, if you see anyone make an outburst, please remove them from the room. i would prefer if you had somebody else in here, too. we will have to have been no tolerance policy on this. i apologize in advance but this is what we really have to have. my proposal for how to go about deliberating on these issues is to start with v factual issues. and move to the legal issues. and ultimately discuss our views on the ultimate issue of whether the facts constitute official misconduct. that is not acceptable to my fellow commissioners? i will introduce each of what i

consider to be the salient facts. i will express a quick summary of my view and invite discussion on whether we think of this particular fact is established. there are a number of facts that were presented in front of us over the course of the last several months. but i think we should help in on the one that could possibly sustain a charge of official misconduct. i think those facts are as follows. first, whether the physical abuse of a share of --share of -- sherriff mirkarimi occured. if he abused the office