positive.

. >> will want be happy with that at all because that will put us in that same territory where it's an opt in even though it's legally not an opt in and hard enough to get customers in at the beginning if we're making that aggressive and how they respond. we want to do good study work and learn about them and need them excited about it but we need the incumbency factor and this is where you're in and do they want to stay in and for the next six months they can think if it's good for them or not and rather to be in the proactive phase an a opt in and

be careful of that territory. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment? seeing none i will add my points. up to this point we have been trying to figure out what official san francisco wants us to do, and there have been a of people involved in that. it's been the commission. it's been lav co. it's been the mayor. during implementation it's use and we need to be engaged in implementation in a way that we haven't been engaged in the design of the program more exclusively and this is really a change in direction. needs to be a change to our approach to the issue that we need to be asking the tough questions. we need to make sure there is a plan that works and again meet the expectations that are out there realistically so i take it as a lesson rather than

a scoring opportunity. on an amendment we have a motion and i second. we had heard discussion. all those in favor? >> aye. >> on the amended resolution could i have a motion? >> move. >> and second. >> and second. any discussion? >> just one comment. you have to realize i sit in the finance chair. i think of things financially. that's all i have to say. >> thank you and we're glad you do. we have a motion. we have a second. we have no public comment. all those in favor? >> aye. >> the motion carries and that was 8c. and this is going to

be a quick meeting. madam secretary could you call item nine. >> item nine and possible action to adopt san francisco utilities rule of order. >> commissioners my intention is take this to the next meeting and i think it's appropriate that we have a full commission. mr. pill cow asked for the opportunity to speak and while it's calendared if you have a comment we would love to hear it. >> thank you and i guess i am granted privilege to the floor with rule 18. >> and subject to the chair's discretion. >> that's right. thank you. just a quick comments on rules that you did not propose amendments to, rules 20 and 22 on the minutes and tapes of closed segs. you might want to consider to amend those not to

refer to tapes but to audio recordings. i believe the sunshine ordinance talks about audio record tionz and many bodys are recording digital recordings and not on tape and so don't have to be physical tapes so that might be something to look forward to amend the rules and not relate to specific tapes. i want to note and there are just a few of us that care about this and rules rate ten and as i recall this actually flows from the 1932 charter about rate setting where this commission has a two step process of fixing a hearing date in the future for setting rates, and then holding that public hearing and setting rates. the mta board for example does not

have that two step process, and i think that's actually good in that you give -- fix a time first and distribute notices, and then told the hearing, so it maybe a bit archaic and a bit, you know, of extra work involved, but i think it's a useful process, and i just wanted to mention that, and hope that's retained. that is actually what you're proposing as part of the amendment to rule ten but i wanted to provide a little -- >> that is for support of the proposal. >> it is am i am supportive of these changes. i think they're pretty routine. >> and you raise a good point on the electronic media. if we can just review that and make sure about that. we have changed the ways we do the minutes. i don't know if the rules need to reflect that but they're

referencing the available video tape of the proceedings so if there is anything we need to say about that we should say it, so if we can take advantage of the next two weeks to cover that basis. >> and the commission retains discretion in the level of detail in the minutes as long as they comply with the charter and the sunshine ordinance as to those required pieces of content. if there is anything further? sorry. >> i would like to say i was not on the commission in 1930. >> the record will so reflect. does the commission have any other comments on the rules of order? okay. then without objection we will continue this item until our next meeting. >> item ten approve revisions to the cost for project being

delivered as part of the water system improvement program for additional cost of $13.4 million direct staff to get approval from the board of supervisors for the release of funds from the reserve. >> okay commissioners. we have the information in front of us. any questions for staff. >>i would like to move the item. >> second. >> moved and second. is there any public comment? seeing none all those in favor? >> aye. >> the motion carries. item 11 please. >> item 11 authorize the general manager to have a memo of understanding and not two exceed $250,000 and the dur duration of 18 months. >> so moved. >> second. >> and seconded. is there any public comment? seeing none all those in favor?

>> aye. >> the motion carries. >> item 12 discussion and possible action in accordance with the public utilities commission to nominate and elect officers. >> commissioners my intent is to continue this to the next meeting when we have a full commission. that requires that we suspend -- we need a motion to suspend the rules of order. >> so moved. >> second. >> moved and seconded. is there any public discussion? seeing none all those in favor? >> aye. >> the motion carries, and that will be continued to the next meeting and i would ask that it be put on the front of the agenda of the next meeting. okay. item 13. is there any additional new business for the

commission? seeing none this meeting is adjourned.

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