are rented and under rent control and i would call this is a abuse under rent control if you're profiting under this and we should look at it very carefully. >> i agree. >> mr. garcia. >> we have a planning code and these outlawd and it's going on and look the other way and not do anything about it. things like that has an impact on the neighborhood and other people who are legitimately in that business and if we think about it we should do eir and get neighborhood input and if those businesses are allowed to exist certainly we should tax them. >> all right. thank you. ms. gavin. >> i am a strong proponent of the property rights. i am a renter however this is something that teachers have been doing this for a long time because this is one of the ways that they travel, and when i was

high school teachers did this, and it was part of the curriculum when they came back and they would talk about different places around the world, and i really don't i think it's government over reaching and i really have a problem with that, and if it is illegal then we need to do outreach so that people need to know it again and if they are violating the law well then i am for enforcing the law. >> thank you ma'am. mr. lagos. >> short term rentals is something i know about having lived in mark merced because our landlord rents out them on a nightly or weekly basis and i am oppose to that. i am opposed at the whole idea of renting out short term rentals to people, so i would be opposed to taxation on those units because i am opposed to the whole idea of

short term rentals because they deprive people from affordable housing and it's an end around rent control. >> mr. rogers. >> i think that's a good point. i have a frent who has a rental unit down stairs and has an agency that is providing her people that would stay there and they were people that were travelers and they would stay for a month and then she would look for another tenant there and it would be another two months before she got a tenant and stay a month or two weeks so it went, so she wasn't making a lot of money. the idea that it should be rented out as a steady income to people who wanted to stay there 12 months out of the year is really the ideal solution. >> all right. thank you sir.

all right. we have two final questions and then we will go to closing remarks and first question is about measure f. it's on the ballot this november and require san francisco to come with a plan and drain the reservoir and bring it back to the original state. do you support it or oppose it and why? >> i oppose it and i like water and don't want my water bill increased and it's that simple to me. >> all right. >> i agree but i think it's more complex than that. i am against the draining of hetch hetchy and it's a shame and the voters and it's a shame. yosemite valley

sister. it's a shame that the memory of john muir is held up because of that but it's our main source of water now. it's a major source of hydro electric power and relatively cheap and clean and to try to get that power elsewhere and the water elsewhere and all of the money, the resources, the pollution that would go into the demolition of this dam, i am afraid how we stand now in san francisco in 2012 losing it would be a big problem and i am voting no on f. >> thank you. mr. crowley. >> i was the head of the public utilities commission here in san francisco and wrote an op-ed piece about this piece of legislation. we're carry our city's power through this process, gravity ridden and

four we 4.six billion dollars into the system and we are an enterprise here in kgzyl francisco. we have the best water and power in the world and i suggest to sell that would be a bigger carbon footprint and cost about $10 billion to erect another reservoir which we don't have in place at this point and time. >> thank you. >> definitely against measure f. we have these romantic idealized measures and it's well intentiond and let's restore the yosemite valley and sounds great but you need to think it through and what is being sold and f deserves a f and along those lines the supervisors passed a clean power. sounds great but take a look at what it really s it's the shell company and recycling

the same power they provide and you're paying more for it and please take a look at these ideas that we have in san francisco and look at the reality. >> thank you. mr. garcia. >> it's hard to imagine it's well intentioned. it's suspicious why this is even on the ballot. in terms of the sanity behind it doesn't make sense and whether we should rule or govern by proposition in california and this is an example of when it's a really bad idea and i am certainly not going to vote yes on f. i am opposed to it. >> all right. ms. gavin. >> i am opposed to f and it's too expensive to implement and where in the world would our water from and -- good intengses and i think f is going the

wrong way and i think that other municipalities buy water from us so we have to think of them also. where are they going to get their water from and where are we going to get our water from? so i say no to f. >> all right. mr. lagos. >> i agree with everyone and on the grounds it's too costly and if it's not needed. if it's not broken you don't have to fix it and i would vote no on f and in my opinion possibly a cynical ploy to privatize water distribution to san francisco, so i would definitely oppose it. >> thank you sir. mr. rogers. >> i too say no on f and the assumption with this proposition is that it would be torn down. they're studying it, so they're

trying to plan or justify a reason to tear down the hetch hetchy dam and i think it's a bad idea. they have other places where they're studying water reuse here in san francisco, and we do need to have water reuse. san francisco is the only city in california that doesn't use any water reuse. orange county it's up to 65%. it's a very high%. we use the cleanest water in the nation to wash our streets. that just can't happen. we need water reuse but that doesn't mean we need to give up on hetch hetchy. >> i can scnt guarantee i won't hit the 15 seconds and the issue is not worth the paper it's written on and what comes to mind is tiny

tim's song "let's dance through the tulips" and it's not going to happen and i vote absolutely notice. >> all right. we have agreement here. all right. our final question before our closing statements. how would you bring jobs to san francisco? we will begin with you mr. blie. >> i'm a geographer, not an economist. no, this is obviously a big issue and okay we gave a big tax break to twitter to come on into the city to set up on market street. is it effective? is it going to bring in other tech companys? is it going to revitalize mid-market? we can't say right now. this needs to be looked

at in a year, five years, ten years. it's an experiment to try this sort of economic and engineering to try to do something like we did with twitter. i am not saying i oppose or favor it but it's a big step to do something like that. are big experiments like that paying off? we need to make sure we track this and does it revitalize areas and bring in jobs but tourism is such a huge part of who we are and someone that likes to play live music and part of my campaign and come see me play in westportal and we need to make sure tourism is robust and we talked about tourists issues like homelessness and clean streets. >> all right thank you. mr. crowley.

>> and i also support the expansion of mus sonny center. >> he's stealing my thunder. i have been part of the tourist motion picture convention for years and responsible for millions of dollars of wages while i have been there. i know this subject inside and out. we are going upon the pres pus for prebuilding monsonny center and we can expand and by bringing people and tourist into the city that spend billions over the years and to go for treasure island and hunter's point and going forward. we have a project at pier 70 and moving well and it's robust and moving forward and i would move to say by building these place we put good, hard working blue

collar wages together with white wages and we are doing better than we have before. >> thank you sir. >> has anyone been to the ice cream bar there? it's a neat idea. it's hip. it's for adults and it's packed on a friday night and it's a great thing and if you talk to the owner of the ice cream bar you will find the horror story that the city said no. it took two years to open this. if someone has a good idea why are we throwing up roadblocks. city hall needs to be a one stop shot and we don't run you around to five different departments and we say yes, yes, yes and that's how we build the local economy with small business. >> all right. mr. garcia. >> joe is right. we need to

change the landscape and how we do business. we have decided that process is product here in san francisco. we tend to defy the code and vilify the individual who is trying to get a business started. we are not business friendly. in 2004 the city of san francisco passed prop i and required that the city do economic analysis every four years and strategy report. talks about how we improve the economy and one thing we are trying to change to the gross receipt tax and that is a start but we have to press this and business friendly city and benefit those in business and benefit those in need of job when is we have 8% unemployment here in san francisco. >> thank you sir. ms. gavin. >> i would invest in

transportation, in public transportation it would be muni. i think a lot of areas that we need to upgrade muni and put it under ground. i would invest in the ferries. i think being a tourist city and many people commute to the city i think it's one area a lot of jobs would come from is invest in the public transportation. there si pending grant for the train to no where with the project. it's $942 million grant that san francisco may get and it's a lot of money, but that train isn't going to connect to the k, l, or m that see the break downs everyday. i know because i ride it so i would heavily invest in all of the public transportation. dc has a bullet train that goes 100 miles per hour. we can have one too.

>> thank you. mr. lasos. >> this is not just a problem for san francisco. it's a problem for america. america is losing the jobs oversees and the corporations are taking the jobs oversees and off shoring the labor and my proposal is tax those corporations that off shore our jobs. just tax them and that will be a deterrent and we can use that money to create jobs here at home here in san francisco. use that money to create jobs in the private and public sector so that's my proposal to create jobs in san francisco. >> mr. rogers. >> i like that one. you know i think that the gross revenue tax is a progressive tax and that tax would allow new businesses, small businesses able to flourish so we have something to look forward to with that. that being said treasure island

seems to me a car dependent project and unless you have a ferry that is going there and dropping you off, but that would be somewhat time consuming. the same is true with hunter's point and the problem is there isn't a lot of transportation near there. the trances bay terminal next to bart, next to cal train this is a great project and has so much commuter friendly things going on there, and as far as i am concerned when it comes to development in san francisco it's got to stop. >> all right. thank you sir. >> there are three parts of the economy, the consumer, the investment and the government. the only reason thing that has grown on a rapid rate is the government. the government gets their revenues through taxation or borrowing money. the problem is the regulations are hurting

small businesses. 2/3 of all jobs are created by small business which are considered -- chapter s corporations and less than $250,000 killing all of the regulations and kill the incentive. the government doesn't produce anything. it's the private sector that produces the wealth and the opportunity. get the government off the back through regulations and taxation and you will see the city once again be vibrant. i'm telling you it's taxation and regulations. i have two successful businesses. i would not open another one in san francisco. i would not. >> thank you. mr. yee. >> here's the four things i would do to create jobs. number one, help the small businesses with a one stot shop approach. ocean avenue had a fire. nine

businesses had a fire and the mayor came and if he could do that one time we could do that all the time and number two give taxing incentives for high-tech and these jobs and kids are graduates and we don't have the jobs and number three i would support the convention bureau in bringing tourism and we know tourism is really a big job producer in san francisco. number four, we also have lots of funding, government funding, that is supporting capital projects, and for instance 2006 we did not have local hiring for our bond measure. 2011 half a billion dollars worth of work. i want local hiring so that we pay for it. our people that live here should benefit from it. >> all right. thank you. all right. now we're going to come to the candidate's closing statements but i want to remind

you if you haven't registered to vote you still have time. please urge everyone to register the deadline is october 22nd and if you moved you need to register again. we're going to do the closing statements in reverse alphabetical order and to the candidates please remember you have -- you got that one right, one minute each. mr. yee we will begin with you. >> i am norman yee and running for supervisor and lived in the district for 27 year scption my two daughters grew up and i am running because i want to grow our economy, make our streets safer and keep our families here, and have been on the school board as a president for eight years now and we turned the school district around to improve test scores and more fiscally accountable and this is what i bring in. i am a consensus builder. i work with

people to find results and get results and i have been effective as elected official for eight years and i will bring that into the board of supervisors. thank you very much. >> i am bob squarey. i live in san francisco. the 49ers were founded in 46 in my honor. i want to thank them -- [laughter] i will be given my season tickets up when i leave the city. i had them for over 40 years. they're gone but with that said i started two successful businesses in san francisco. i have a childrens' foundation "one children at a time inc." and did jobs around the world and every nickel i raised go to helping the kids. i will bring a strong budget control initiative to san francisco and i will show it by

opening my district office in either on ocean avenue, lake side, and out of the money they give i will take a part of that fund and pay for that office in san francisco, but i will open it in the district so i will serve the people. bob squirey. i appreciate your support. >> thank you. mr. rogers. >> i am glen rogers and a native son of san francisco. i went to school here wanting to do public service and i went to sonoma state and majored in sociology and when i graduated i joined the peace corps in afghanistan. after returning i saw some lovely places and i wanted to be a landscape architect. i went to colpolly pomona and encouraged me to get involved in politics. i have been working

on projects like civic centers, parks, fountains, restoration projects, and i was a member of the california native plant society and board member for 15 years, and we look forward to your support. thank you very much. >> thank you. mr. lagos. >> yes. i want to thank everybody for coming out tonight and enduring us, and i just want to let you know that in my opinion district seven needs a progressive in this upcoming election i believe i'm that person. i came in second in 2008. i am the only candidate up here that ran in 2008. garnered 19% of the vote and i came in second, and i believe that we need to make our city affordable again for working people, the middle class people. it's not an affordable place to live anymore for most working people so that is something i will work on. and i will

oppose major land use development because i believe it's a threat to the preservation of our neighborhoods. it's gentifies our city and it makes it basically a hostile place to live in my opinion especially living out in park merced so if you have a progressive on november 6 vote for me. thank you. >> thank you. ms. gavin. >> i am lynn gavin and i'm a pastor and like so many women there are multiple things that i do and we multi-task and kind of boring even though we didn't term that world. i am running because of the corruption and malfeasance at city hall. i got involved and i was angry they didn't disclose to me they wanted to demolish my apartment and which is a violation of the law and with sunshine i began to research and research and now i have 43 pounds of paper in the

research and because my case, sunshine case, that found supervisors wiener, colen, chiu and mar and they broke the state law and that is why this case is in court. they shut down sunshine and the retaliation was so strong i was evicted from my home and because i was raised right i would do it over again, and once i am elected one of the law enforcement officials will swear me in. >> i am mr. garcia and have the diseepest experience of anyone. i have many years and seven years as

an educators and taught there and president of board of ethics and board of appeals and 25 years of experience in doing service to the neighborhood. i am supported by the incumbent and scott wiener and others and i want very bad to be your supervisor and i am asking for your support and there's give me your vote on november 6. thank you. >> hi. i am joel io and i am running for supervisor and they have a way of looking at the happy meals but can't fill pot holes. where is the common sense? and many paid twice to fill the pot holes and where is the accountability of our money? so if you're tired of your house being the city's atm, if you're

tired of the same politics and same choices i offer you an independent choice. i promise to be your advocate and work for you and not for the special interests and the super pacs that pass the other candidates and it's important in the junk mail and look at the fine print and see who is really spending on who and who is beholden to who. i worked as a journalist for years and i will bring that common sense to city hall. thank you. >> mr. crowley. >> thank you. i would like to thank the leauge of women voters. i believe what sets me apart is the integrity and problem solving i have in my

years and i have a record of efficiency and infrastructure and fiscal responsibility. i have a passion for the people in the neighborhoods that i have known all by life. that's i didn't am supporting by the democratic party and diane fine stein and the firefighters and thousands in the strict. this campaign isn't about who is the best politician it is. it's about the best problem solver and with they am asking for your vote on november 6. >> all right. thank you. >> thank you. i am andrew blie and running for supervisor for the most important reason why someone should seek office and that is my love for san francisco. is there room for an idealists? i'm a father, and a

political nobody. my wife and i are graduates of san francisco university and my life is about the betterment of the city and i run my own firm and conducted analysis and mapping for private firms, public agencies and for nonprofits. as a volunteer i was appointed to the advisory committee and i worked with police, and fire and doing pro bono mapping and to effectively and efficiencily reach out to homeless connect. i startinged the recycling program at the san francisco dormitories and as a musician i volunteer at libraries and community centers. san francisco is a small town. this is a small part of the small town. i card is out there and please be contact for a beer or a coffee. >> ladies and gentlemen you have a difficult choice. you have

candidates knowledgeable and sense of humor and passionate. on behalf of myself and leauge of women voters and san francisco government and san francisco television and our thanks for all of the candidates for participating. it was a pleasure tonight. thank you to all of you that turned out