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allocated. >> no, the prop b funding is allocated? >> i'm looking at your recommendation to your projects on page 10. it says there that you're recommending $3.05 million for the pa lou repaving project. >> no, that was what it was applied to. >> i see. >> that's in the middle tier. we want to do some work to bring that project up and make it more competitive. >> i was confused because it says recommendation as a headline. you're evaluating amongst all of
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financing cost go down. we're happy to bring that back to you in january and february at the latest. >> what that means is that of course we need to look at the program and this money complimenting each other. we also need to look at prop k, as helping us fill some of the holes and in doing that, we need to make sure that we don't violate our own process with prioritization that maria having talking about. that prioritization is about readiness, it is about complete street, it's about some of the other policy that you have given us among these projects. we're just talking a moment ago about the need to deal with
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safety, bicycle safety and so on. all of this is about transforming the city not just repaving what we have and making it better. that goes to your comment about the mandel project as well. we do know that it is the street that parks department should have -- [inaudible]. it is ultimating a city street. city of san francisco see it as a street. they don't see it as one agency and another agency. this process which looks at the quality of the street, paramount importance. >> i'm concerned we'll be using the park money for the street. i like to maximize our open space park money. >> ultimately i think that, i
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together to incorporate the recommendation >> we're not assigning any funds. two projects dropping out. >> i'll clarify. it includes everything you shown us today. obviously we can't fund all of that because this amount is so greater than the amount that we have that you're talking about our input today as we move forward to come up with a finalized budget. >> absolutely. >> thank you. >> thanks for asking the questions commissioner cohen and clarifying. not to jump the gun on decision-making that we have to
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make. i like to see that we have this list of ten projects now that we don't reshuffle the deck moving forward. these projects are closed initial cut for this round. can still be clearly in the running for obag funding and prioritized in that way. >> thought -- thank you for your presentation. any member of the public like to comment. please come forward. >> i'm from the department of public works finance and budget. i want to say a couple quick word. we support the staff recommendation to move this group of projects forward.
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i do want to clarify a little bit about and follow up what supervisor cohen was saying about the commitments that we made to voters when they approved proposition b streets bond. we estimated that we would be able to spend a total of $65 million a year on repaving in order to get us to a score to improve the quality of the streets citywide over a ten year period. part of that assumption was about $50 million a year would come from prop b money and around $3.5 million would come from federal funds or obag. the last time you considered funding was streets and roads sets aside. prop k and couple other sources. it's really important that our
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entire paving commitment from federal funds go forward if we're going to meet that prop b commitment. when we vote prop b, it allowed us to put $50 million into complete streets, bike safety and those are the funds that make improvements and make streets better. it's a large chunk of money over the same period of time that obag is providing. the department of public works working with other city department is committed to complete streets. we feel it vital to make the investment . we need to spend even more money just on repaving. the amount of money that we need
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to meet those commitments is included in the masonic project and broadway project. to meet that commitment, we will need all of them. we will be working with the t.a. staff and especially with the other agencies applied for obag funds in order to make sure we're meeting all of those needs. thanks. >> thank you. >> right now we're over subscribed. what we will actually heard a lot of concerns that you've spoken about today. we are going to look at each the
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projects. get better refined cost estimates. look to see if there are other sources to still keep us on schedule that deliver the projects that we committed. and move forward on this entire package of projects. i think we're going to try to do that in the next couple months and when this recommendation comes back, not only can we fund these projects, these are federal funds so it's important that unlike second street, last time we're able to soak up these funds, spend the money and deliver the projects and try to deliver all of them whatever shape or form.
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>> i go want to support for these projects. as we see every single day in san francisco. i wanted to say quickly about the application. we are talking to them and we have worked with them in the past looking at other ways to get a lot of their ideas and energy mobilized and on the ground. the paving alone is needed and something we hear unanimously. this valley a great time to be adding in some of the innovative
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bicycle improvement. the plan is in front of you today is part of this obag list really moved the hearts of directors and they produced unanimous vote. we're really excited to see all of these move forward but obag and few others and we look forward to working with all of you and all the city agencies. thank you. >> just a question that you might know commissioner cohen, there used to be a bike program back in the day. there was a big repair program around 2000. it was related to a safe haven. is there anything like that in
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place there? >> i'm not familiar. we have been dealing with groups. >> it seems like a good place to put resources to programs and enhance biking and areas of san francisco. we don't have as much of other places. probably a great need to have it. if there are no other members of the public we can close public comment. colleagues we have this before us. >> motion to move forward. >> second by commissioner and we can take that without objection. thank you so much for your presentation. we can go on to our next item. >> recommended allocation of 419 in prop k funds for san francisco transportation agency
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for request. >> good morning commissioners. this item begins on page 127 of your packet. the first allocation request, the sfmta requested they requested total $157,000. when completed this project will allow light rail vehicle to turn around and advance of the southern terminal. third connection illinois and 19th street. the design and construction phases of this project will be
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to the pp and fiscal year 2012, '13 from the guadalupe bay elementary school. with that i can take any questions who can respond. >> thank you for your presentation. just from experience we have in district 11 and also at the sun set district issue where we see light rail vehicles turned around. we have before us the mission bay loop and i just want to make sure there's a real plan in place to make sure that we're not going to use the loop just to serve the northern part of
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san francisco to focuses living in the south can actually maintain level of service because of the turn around will be pushing cars back up north before the terminal is preserved. final plans how the mta will be using this terminal? >> i like to invite sfmta program manager to explain the plan. >> good afternoon. the mission bay loop is designed to help us deal with the very heavy service demand that's are anticipated as the eastern corridor develops including hunters point all the way up to mission bay. the central subway service plan calls for six minute service down to sunnydale and three
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minute service to mission bay. where we to run all the service to sunnydale at a three minute headway. not only we will be over serving the line but it will be very expensive. there will be very rich service to both destinations, based on the demand. the line will operate very similar for example, the one california, which we operate in the peak period today where we have six minute service heading out to the beach and we have three minute service in the core part of the line. it will be scheduled service. it won't be operated similar to a switch back. it will be operated on a daily basis in a way that customers can expect and is communicated with clear signage. >> i think that's going to be
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important to stick to. switchbacks are a real phenomenon and district 11 and district 4 cause a great deal of convenience for people living in the avenues. making sure we're not closing out service or diminish services what we're planning for the southeast sector. >> thank you. >> i just had a quick question. when you said that the schedule is three minutes to every threes to mission bay and six minutes to sunnydale. is that currently the schedule now? absolutely not. that's what we are predicting what we need in order not to have crowded trains. that service plan, based on the land use probablies that we're -- projections and based on how we seeing people travel today, it's a plan we will grow into
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and it's one we need to be prepared for as we plan for additional vehicles and things like that. >> it's a funding place to make that plan a reality? >> what is the operations plan that we have submitted to the federal transit administration and are preparing for as part of the central subway project. >> that would be great. the t-line one of the slowest lines i've taken here in san francisco. i just want to make sure if we do this turn around, it's going to be coupled with the additional services to ensure we
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have trans making that full ride down to sunnydale. >> absolutely. >> commissioner cohen. >> i think it was last year, maybe it was earlier this year, we had a hearing about switchbacks and i understand that there were problems with v-tags. there particular piece of equipment community the shuttle or the car and the street lights. it wasn't working so that means operators were having to manually cross through intersection. long short of a story, this has been fixed i'm told. i don't know if we have anyone from muny here until this is fixed. i want to echo a little bit what supervisor kim was
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mentioning and supervisor avalos. i want to echo the importance that we get it t-line worked out as quickly as possible. >> what mission bay loop will allow us to do is to manage crowding throughout the line so when people get on the train whether it's in the bay view or in mission bay or downtown, they have a spot and they have room. we're working as hard as we can to solve some of the near term problem but ultimately we're looking to grow the transit service, grow the ridership and better meet customer demands. this project is a key piece of that in terms of being able to much of where the ridership is heaviest versus where we're able
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to deliver heavy demand. >> we'll see actually increased density in that area. >> one other point i want to bring to your attention is, when switchbacks do occur, particularly around 3rd and 23nd, people are kicked off the bus and they in a platform. many people don't speak english. i have many constituents not knowing what's going on. i take the t and i experienced this before. not only frustrating that you have to exit the bus, you don't know when the next one is coming. you can imagine someone not even speaking native language, it's very frustrating. i don't believe muny has been outfooted to where they have a prerecorded rolling message that is specifically in spanish. even if we hand out fliers and
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have them printed out knowing that switchbacks will be a possibility during their peak hour, you can start to hand to people. might be able to minimize some of that frustration that i've been hearing from constituents. >> i will be happy to share that feedback. >> thank you, i appreciate that. >> thank you. this time we can open up for public comment. anyone from the public like to comment, please come forward. >> we've educated thousands of people in san francisco in every
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district. we are collaborating and reaching out to community groups, the bike kitchen and the bike project to reach out to under represented audiences such as colors and bay view and hunters point. these funds will help support efforts and improve bike safety. thank you. >> thank you very much any other member of the public like to comment. seeing none, we will close public comment. can we move this forward with recommendation and conditions amendments. so moved and we will take that without objection. >> item ten recommended program up -- cycle three lifetime transportation program to three san francisco municipal transportation agency projects.
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