pedestrian escape is not impossible but you have to go through the bushes and down the hillside. i'm concerned about the traffic, pedestrian safety, and one more item that i wanted to mention is that the project is not in compliance where the homeowners association architectural control guidelines. so we would be in favor i think most of the people for a reduced smaller scale project. thanks >> thank you. >> hello i'm lou. i'd like to state i'm not antidevelopment i'm for all

responsible development. this project will harm the neighborhood. the traffic situation is bad and there's no bus service to the area where the project is going. there's buses blocks and blocks away. below our street they built one house at the end of that the court will tell you did he sack and all the trucks had to back down the street everyday because there was insufficient turn around space. so i can't imagine how all those construction vehicles can be up there and other traffic that will result from 34 i'm not

sure. mostly from the down right construction people will suffer there the projects. this far corner of the neighborhood they showed you the apartment buildings in this area there's none. so there's a lot of blind curves windy potholes. there's sinkholes it's extremely foggy. we have bad sidewalks that are unevery they're not up to code and there's no room for this kind of center traffic. so my husband was involved in an accident in a typical situation

on our streets to cars parking on both sides caused cars to funnel into this area. you have all kinds of blind hills and somebody was speeding around and he had to crash into a parked car and thank you ma'am, your time t is up >> good morning commissioners i'm christen and i'm a 40 year resident of the forest knolls association and a second generation. my secondary father can attest to the drama elements of the slide. i was a witness to that actually

his wife made us popcorn and talk about a dramatic introduction to ownership watching mr. dunn anywhere on the street watching the building slip from its forensics. it was a very large impression to an 8-year-old. as i made mention the heights below has done that retaining wall and they have an annual budget to remove bolders from that hillside. one of the reasons this was put on hold was another slide that happened on the far west northern side in 2004. this area has underground

streams. i mitigate add that the sinkhole took place right about four and a half years ago. this is right above forest knoll. this is not going to destabilize the area? yes. the artful use of the lapsing and green space and development has made this project look nice but looking at the color coded areas does not show you completely that the topographic area of the neighborhood is such that you don't pass any multi development housing.

yes, it's above the multi development area. they show no relyingness to work with the development so they get their way we are not going to work with the development and we don't get our way. please visit this site >> i live in crestmont drive. although my house it the last in the street as mike dictated it will be blocked by the new buildings and my criteria is going to be cut. i moved to the i see about 8 years ago and to the neighborhood 4 years ago and

this is my first encounter. so i want to thank you for let me speak. i have to say my experience with the ss they were very politely and accommodating. i don't want your concerns were answered. we're talking about the traffic in the streets and they came back with a bunch of statistics. everyday i need to stop at the site and wait for someone else to go through. also there were a bunch of works about other projects like that but i think it's like comparing apples and oranges.

the houses in crestmont drive do have a backyard so if you're not in the how's your in the street and there's children playing in the street everyday. another certain is about the density and the slides the hazards and they came back with a bunch of lawyer stuff and insurance - i think the answer was that we're insured for 12 months that means in my house claps collapses in 13 months -- my question is if that doesn't happen why not offer 10 years of insurance and let us not deal with issues. i think the only thing i have to say it's a simple case of the

little sense against the big company that has a lot of money. i look at you guys. all i need to know is someone is watching my back and watching our interests against those companies. thank you very much >> next speaker. i'm going to call a couple of names. paula, john, john, john, stephanie. good morning commissioners i'm amy i live at devonshire way right at the corner down the block from crestline. i'm thankful that you have

listening to my neighbors. i would ask that you consider the concerns of the folks. we're the folks who are going to be living through the construction and living with the traffic and safety issues because this project may or may not be built. and my fellow neighbor who mentioned the traffic issues from one home have been considerable. the maps you've been shown on designate that crestmont has two streets that will funnel into that. but this project is located closer to filth oath than warren drive.

i understand there was issues with the owner of the apartment building. but i would echo something it is pedestrian traffic to the avenue. and also, if possible in the greatest scheme of things if there were road access to the after it would benefit the residents of the construction and the resident of crestmont because it's such a long way to drive. and being on that corner i see a lot of cars not stopping at the stop sign. so my main certain echo my neighbors before the construction and after the construction of this project. thank you

>> good afternoon commissioner i'm jeffrey. i'm president of the homeowners association i live on crestmont drive. my comments today are in regards to the error. i feel that the planning commission have done a thorough job >> excuse me. sir, if you're comments are to the eir then that's closed. >> i'm sorry my mistake. i feel that the comments we've brought have been theoretical addressed and various reports and studies hover i feel that one measure is common sense that's not been utility.

our concerns are based on those paroles. it's our belief that a visit to this site will show you the traffic and fire and the safety and density and i respectfully request that any final vote be postponed until all commissioners can visit the site. >> good morning my name is jennifer and i live on crestmont drive. i appreciate your allowing comments. i've lived there for 20 years. it will turn the street in front

of my house into a three-way congested parking on the narrow crestmont drive. we are concerned about the quality of our live but it falls on deaf ears. the error response that we received a week or two ago show that crestmont is not in compliance for this project. the street was built before the safety code was approved and thus, the eir say that the project is not in compliance. crestmont drive is a narrow road bordered by the forest. it's being did he taped by the

city. it's very narrow and it winds to 28 feet. cars are illegal parked and some residents illegally park in front of their homes. street parking is a net for the residents and should not be restricted hover i'm concerned it will not allow especially fire ladder trucks to get through the area. cars park on both sides of the street and from the density of the traffic i only know it will get worse.

the parking open crestmont varies by the parking during the day and night. i urge the city to ask the developer to bare the expense so that is legally in compliance to two-way traffic. if this cannot be done i urge the planning commission to reduce the size of the project. thank you 2350ur consideration >> thank you good afternoon commissioners. >> i live in the middle of crestmont. >> excuse me, sir state your name for the record. >> john. we have a block party everyday i know everybody on the block. most of the people had this

subject of this ongoing development has come up every year and i don't know of any individuals that's in favor of that. i certainly would like to see the numbers on people who are in favor of it. we don't have speed bumps and we don't want them. so i felt this was kind of unfair. the development itself is a good developments somewhere else. on a narrow twisting road like that there's no emergency egress there's only one road and it's uphill. the 16 units make a lot of sense. maybe they should come back when

it's economic and feasible to build something that's in size and scope. the over all majority was built by standard developers. we're going to have our property values going down. i think my preference would be to billed nothing there until he, widen the street or they're going to build something there i know you need the development. the 16 units make sense. this big thing does not. and if you haven't been detain

there drive and try to turn around. i think you'll see this doesn't make sense. thank you >> good morning commissioners thank you. my name is john. i live at forest and it's at the lower part of forest drive. when you presented diagrams in the developers they admitted something very important there are 3 large investments kirkland heights will be o milled and other apartment which i live. he wonder if the reason it was emitted is in the back of my mind the 50 apartments, in my

apartment is a few yards away from the mountain. i wonder in the reason it was omitted is along the property lines from one end to another will be an open basketball court and a fir engine turn around. is that the reason it was omitt omitted? you should - that place is a fly over in which you'll see all kinds of animals like raccoons and it's very, very upsetting during the night to hear them murdering each other. that's my statement.

thank you very much >> gmg members of the commission. my wife and i own the property on crestmont drive. i'm here to oppose the project. i come from an extended family of about 25 san francisco firefighters clul my father who served on the san francisco fire department. my main certain is fire safety. members of the commission this project is unsafe from a fire standpoint. basically because the fir people call the escape route is grossly

inadequate. first of all, the san francisco fire code provides that i must have an assess road or an escape route a minute of 25 feet wide unobstructed. this project allows parking on both sides of the street that reduce the width of the road to rou roughly 15 to 16 feet. this project is flat out in violation of the san francisco fire code in that the roads escape roads are not 20 feet wide unobstructed and continuance. the second point equally

important is anybody who has studied forest areas first of all, it's dangerous to have only one escape route but if you have an escape route that is less than 20 feet wide it's asking for problems. example one is the height lands disfavor in 1991 in the oakland fire. that particular tragedy was that people tried to leave. 11 people died including 6 going in their cars trying to get out. this particular assess road is unsafe and it should be denied.

i appeal to our discretion. thank you >> thank you. >> good morning members of the commission i'm stephanie. i live in the corresponding mount apartment. i'd like to speak to the potential danger of the instability of the hillside on which this project is to go built. several years ago there was a land side on court reporting land street. that's now covered over by concrete that was placed through in order to shore up the hillside. the fifth avenue building was

undermined by that landslide. it was very scary to all of us and the hillside on where this project is to be built is very steep. as one of the gentlemen before me mentioned that building was left off of the illustration of the project that was to be built and i also have to ask why that building was left off the project. i didn't intend to speak this afternoon so pardon me i'm not a speaker. this project is not only dangerous took the people who

are above but below the project. this frightens me, it frightens other members of the complex and the community above us. i'd like to echo others that you take into account this before you make your decision. thank you >> i'm pamela. i didn't catch that you called me arrest i'm a long time resident of the kirkland project. first this is unstable rakes role off the hills. the rocks are quite heavy and i branch out you a sample of those if you wish to check out the

rocks. this was easy they were in the middle of the street. my second point is that when he think about crestmont drive you think about the oakland hills fire of 1991 which other people have braubl i brought up. many of the roads prevented fire trucks to get into areas to correct fire hoses. in 1991 fire trucks had to wined their ways to the hills and residents found themselves stick

crowd with the traffic. 34 families at the end of this narrow street it could be a disfav disastrous. >> is there any other public comment? come up. >> i live on okay park drive. i want to respond to a couple of the speaks that said this development will keep families in san francisco. i don't know of any families that could afford a house that costs $1.8 million. today? anyway that's all i have to say

>> thank you. >> good morning. i'm leslie i live on la begin street. i'm here today to oppose this project. i am a good friend with a family that lives on crestmont. i've been up there over 20 years and helped raise their children. this is a disaster waiting to happen. i'm - i've read the reports and echo all the sentiments about the testimony that's been given so far. this is so unsafe it jeopardizes