these people are talking about as a matter of fact, i would like to thank you for making me homeless, because i used to read the news paip and her watch the main street media and i had an interpretation of what the homeless people were and i would drove passed and now i am in that soup line, okay? >> and these are some of the finest people, beautiful people and the people running the poverty tents that hire nothing but criminals. to run, and staff these places. fine, but the thugs that run these homeless services to squeeze, little nickel and dimes out of our misery. it is no, there is no solution. thank you mr. rich. >> hi, i was not going to speak

today, but i am sensed by some of the tactics being done that you expect these people to trust you. okay? they mean well and i think that he has a lot to heart but in reality, it is not carried out properly and you send him to a stabilization room and you are going to have a security guard outside of the rooms to make sure that no one steals their stuff and no one attacks them. and the security and that the precious belongings used the pair of pants or a shirt, and you will go out and get another one. they just can't do that. >> that this is a certain that the alternatives are not much better than being able to have the same space as something that is a value to them and i knew that this woo come to them together as the situation and because of the over night restrictions and in the areas that have no housing and very

little housing. and so, every month, and another street and another block, where, there would be and no allowed over night housing. and so as people were pushed and pushed and pushed. until finally, you are going to already brought 1,000 signs, how about you went to pay for the light rail and 50 percent on the time rate. it is so, it was so bad about the over night parking. i had to point out to a club own their they wanted to restrict the parking that he could not have any customers late at night at his nightclub tha, is how bad it got. with restricting of the over night parking until we finally got a petition out and the traffic engineer had to pull back the request because they did not go out to see the impact of restricting the parking. this is so this is it shows a lot of insensitivity on the

part of the people who have not implemented this correctly. >> thank you. >> penny black stone, calvin davis and those are the last two people who have turned in a spoker card. >> good afternoon, formerly from chu's office and i am acquainted with this legislation that the board of supervisors passed months ago and it is before you today are the locations in which these signs would go up. i lived in the sunset district for a long time and there th* is something that they are worried about and i know that it is very important to the people who live in the sunset district, it is not a city wide ban it is to be implemented in areas that are seeing a lot of impact like the places of the sunset that have curb with no curb cuts and no meters and street cleaning these are attractive areas for people to store their private vehicles on public streets, this is about

parking management. what happens is a couple of people mentioned this, once a rv or a boat or a construction vehicle or a panel truck or a bus parks there a bunch of other ones come and you have a wall and behind that wall of vehicles a lot of unsavory activities and illegal dumping. so in an effort to kind of clean up the neighborhood and open up the parking chu wrote this legislation and working with the mta and this is something that every supervisors that tried to create. and so, again, the board has passed this a long time ago and homelessness is such a serious issue and one that definitely needs attention and we can't put everything else on hold until that is solved. so i ask you from sunset district resident to support this. >> thank you. >> last speaker, calvin davis? >> all right. mr. davis is not here, madam

chair there is not anyone else that wish to address. >> that closes public comment on this issue. thank you, i want to thank all of you who showed up for public comment, and i know that you have taken time out of your day and this is a difficult situation for the city that has been challenged to address not just now but in the past and i am sure that is going to continue to be a challenge in the future and thank you for putting a face on this for us and i appreciate it. and for those of you who are working to change your situation. i really encourage you to work to change your situation. i know that being vehicularly housed is not the first choice for any of you and i encourage you to reach out and work with the system that we have to try on get yourself into a safer situation. and again, thank you all for coming. all right. board members? does anybody have any clarifying questions? if not i will ask for a motion

and we can discuss. >> a couple of speakers mentioned the change in the scope, and i was wondering if mr. yee could address at that at all. >> when this legislation was being considered, of the board they asked us to provide a list of potential locations where the signs have been installed and we mentioned earlier that the list is compiled from the past experiences and also, input that we received from the board of supervisors and residents and from our own observations and files, once that legislation has been approved, we took that list and we fine tuned it a little bit in addition to the input from the board and from the public hearings and so forth. so it is fairly similar to what we thought that we had a meeting and we went through the list of pretty closely and it is fairly similar to what was

originally given at the board of supervisors. >> thank you, mr. yee, any other questions for director yee? if not, let's have a discussion, could i have a motion, please? >> yes. >> motion to approve. >> second? >> second. >> okay. >> discussion around this? board members? any discuss discussion. >> i know that what i am feeling is that i know we have had discussions with the office of hope and i know that we have had discussions with the coalition and we have said that there are certain things that we can do to help make sure that before a ticket gets or before a vehicle gets to the status where it will get booted or towed there is the opportunity for us to bring that to the attention of mr. dufty's office and perhaps intervene before that happens. or get his office to intervene

before that happens. >> yeah, that is correct. and i think that mr. yee made reference to this as well. and i think, that first of all i would just acknowledge that you said that this is a very difficult issue, it is most difficult for those who are vehicularry housed with or without this legislation. and this is legislation that as the last speaker mentioned was approved by the board of supervisors and the program was approved not before us today. it is really the first locations to implement this legislation. and just to, speak to the last point, i think that we heard very clearly the concern from the coalition, and i have great respect for the coalition and the work that they do to serve the city's most vulnerable populations, and it was also a concern expressed to me by chairman nolan based on the

letter that we received in terms of the expansion of the locations, my understanding similar to what mr. yee just indicated was that there was a preliminary list of ideas of a few pockets in the city. and there were a number of different locations that then kind of came on to the table throughout the process. from that initial list there were a little bit added and subtracted and by and large my understanding is that it is more or less on the same scale, maybe slightly larger but not i did not understand it to be a significant expansion to the earlier question of after the pilot once we have results might we, is it just expansion? >> i say that the answer is no. i think that we will see what the dynamics of this are, and what consequences intened or unintended there may be, and we will adjust accordingly, and there may be some places where we might want to roll back, what we are proposing, and i think that you heard some

concerns about the places that we might want to remove and the places that we might want to add and i think that we will see this as dynamic and as mr. yee also said to your last question, we are very much committed to working with the homeless out reach teams and with mr. dufty's office and with the police department to implement in this in a way that will have the least adverse impact to the people that are the most vulnerable and we will at a minimum have the ability to flag the people that are getting multiple violations under this section of the transportation code and these violations will likely be issued by the sfpd because of the hours that there were restrictions apply and we don't have staffing so much on the streets, but we would be able to work with them to identify folks who are accumulating tickets and to try to work with the homeless out reach teams and with the hope office to intervene so that we don't get

someone in a situation, where they get their vehicle, and their vehicle get booted and beyond that, we did have someone from the department of public health at the meeting when we met with the coalition, and they are committed to working with us to do out reach, in advance of this so that the people know, what locations this board ultimately decides on, and have ever opportunity to understand what the services are that they might be able to avail themselves of should they desire to do so. and will continue and we have tried through the course of establishing the locations to do so, and we will continue to do so in a way that is more sensitive to a population that, i think, as we have heard clearly is vulnerable population in the city. >> thank you. >> and if we pass this today, at what time point would ticketing or signs go up in ticketing begin? would we have a grace period similar to what we did with

sunday parking meters? >> what we envision and i think that you mentioned about a month to or from approval to get the signs in place and get things established. and we would use the intervening time, to make sure that we are reaching out to folks, and in conjunction with the dph and the hope and the police department and including working with it, and it is really concentrated two of the police district stations and so we worked specifically, with those the captains of those precincts as well as the folks that were on night watch and seeing the officers doing the enforcement to make sure that we do this the right way and yes we will be doing a grace period as well and so we will start or the police will start with warnings and because the goal is to have it in compliance with the law that the board of supervisors approved. >> thank you. >> directors we have a motion and a second. do we have any other discussion or should we have a vote? >> i have one question.

>> probably should ask. we do have it that presented it and urged us to expand this to pierce street and post and encenter and i wondered if that had been made or if that particular request had been considered. . >> i did not get that request, as a request for consideration under this pilot. as i think that you discussed that we were trying to a little bit concentrate, othat we would be able to focus it within a few police districts. i think that you have heard and

i think that it is a bit of an extraordinary issue and not so much the presence of the vehicles but there are some particular alleged criminal activity that someone else said that needs to be dealt with as criminal activity and that is something that we are working both with our folks and the police department on. >> understood, thank you. >> i have a question. >> my concern will be how we managed the process. >> my concern is waiting three months and it might be too late. we may need to know, monthly, you know wha, is the progress because i don't want to find out three months later that we have impounded x amount of vehicles, i would like to know if we have to alter our direction we may need to do that. >> yeah. i don't think, if we have a way to bring data to the board sooner, and either through my

director's report, or in writing, i would be happy to do so, i don't think that we are going to be able to gather the data that quick and i certainly don't believe that we will have folks that will be in danger of having their vehicles impounded in that sort of a period of time. as i said we are going to work, very hard to do what we can and working with the other city partners to prevent that from happening at all. and so, if we can bring information sooner we will but i think that three months was determined to be an amount of time that will give us enough information to be able to bring something of substance to you, and otherwise, it will just be, you know, very preliminary raw data that i don't believe will be that informative on its own, but i hear your point from day one or before day one, we will be working again, implement this as sensitively as possible and to do whatever we can do to mitigate any adverse impacts of

that and those that are caught in this, might feel as a result of the implementation. >> because i think that one of the areas that we will consider is that if we have these streets that have been identified, and is to pull the citation date on it and to see what is going on in those locations. >> that we will be doing absolutely. >> yes? >> thank you, madam chair. i want to express my gratitude for everyone who came to speak and the correspondence and express my gratitude to everyone who has worked on this, the staff particularly, that helped to put this together and the supervisors that have worked on this, and mr. dufty for his good work in helping to develop a solution and to help us with this transition. and this has been obviously no easy thing for any of us to be

able to talk about and to have to address. but at the same time the reason why i am going to be able to support this is because i am striving for a sense of equity with how we are enforcing what we are doing in the city and that the streets are being used to the best possible and to the utmost capacity in different ways. and we can't just do one thing in one neighborhood or one thing in another neighborhood and not expect every other not expect to have biases. so, we are hearing from a number of folks in different ways that the use of the streets needs to change and i think that it would behoov, us to do that or we will face other problems in the future when we talk about how we do things, i say this all of the time, you know this besinger is a city where everybody in the world wants to live here and it is a tough place where we have to learn to do more with all of

our resources. i feel like a lot of the commentary that was to our human resources or economic policies of the city and we are not in the position to do that. i would encourage the people from the coalition on homelessness to harness this energy and go towards the coalition for living wages or fight to is address these issues where informs where they should be addressed. the root causes of these issues are not just you know how the parking is enforced it is really the fact that so many of these employers contractors, businesses that operate in this city do so in such a way where they under pay people and fall into a place of poverty. and get it into this situation, so, i would encourage you as an advocate to get with these different groups to harness

this energy and address it where those places were it be appropriately be addressed. and i think that is all that i want to say but again i want to express my gratitude to everyone who has had a role in putting this together and this is a tough issue to deal with but i am ready to move forward on. >> i will ask to a vote. >> i am not going to support this legislation and i say that with utmost respect for everyone who worked on ti feel like the goal that we are trying to achieve here is not done properly by th. i appreciate everyone to worked for so many years and i know that our agency is going to work hard with the different city family to make sure that this policy seems like will pass, but i know that it is going to be rolled out in a thoughtful way, i appreciate everyone's work on this. >> thank you. >> madam secretary, could we have a roll call? >> brinkman >> aye.

>> heinieke. >> aye. >> lee. >> aye. >> ramos n >> aye. >> rubke. >> nay. >> four ayes and one nay and two absent and it is approved. >> for everyone who came for public comment, thank you for your input and we appreciate it. >> i am sorry? >> should we take a break? >> yeah. why don't we take a short break, ten minute break? would that be all right? we will make it a nine minute break and we will be back at 3:30.