>> thank you. >> superintendent lee? >> i will try to shed a little bit of light and that there is a more technical answer that they are more familiar with than me. but, more than i, but, the calculation for the eligibility and i mentioned earlier in the meeting that there are two conditions for us to receive to be eligible receive funds from the rainy day reserve and one of them has to do with the layoff and the second one is that there is a decrease in inflation adjusted per pupil revenue and that is the, i believe that is the question that you are asking commissioner. >> the crucial phrase being inflation. >> and the methodology, that the controller's office uses is actually based on a very long period of time, dating back 30 years or more, i think.

and that uses a calculation of inflation adjustment over a very, proud, arc of those years and looking at the cpr adjustments in each of those years over the decade and the long story short with that methodology, it is the case that even though, even if we see in the short term, more significant increases in revenues than we have seen, it is still, holds up as determining that we are eligible and that is, that is the... >> commissioner haney tells me that there is a chart it look at which i would like to see. not now. and also, i was wondering about the rainy day fund calculation if the city has calculated in additional input into the rainy day fund for them in the coming years in those numbers that you gave us here. >> they have not. >> they are not projecting that they would make contributions into the reserve.

>> okay. >> my last area which is something, or is about the special ed budget and i appreciate the information that we got, and it has been and it is helpful but here is what, i have been thinking. we have been talking about this for a number of years. and i think that over time, and certainly i do not expect to hear it, i just want to somebody to say yes, we think that we could do that. what we have seen here as well as many times before these are our educational goals and so we put in what it takes which is a lot. and we have the strategy and they are going to result in cost safe ands that is what this says here. and i am interested in if anybody has ever gone beyond

that if someone tells me that our expectation is that with the new way that we have of classifying kids, the way that they are being assigned, the commitment to a different service-based kind of programming, and we expect that over time, this is what is going to happen, we think that we will have this many fewer special day classes by such and such of a time and i am not saying oh, it is a contract and you will be held to that but i mean are we planning for that? are we saying that this is what we think it will look like, not in a few years we expect to see some savings or at least a decrease in the annual increases based on what? just based on we think that we are doing it a better way and we hope that it is going to safe us money and i think that from our budgetary point of view and what we are talking about last week, with the kind of stunning, knowledge now that we are putting 25 percent of our revenue limit or what used to be our revenue limit into

unrestricted general funds support for the special ed budget, it is impossible for us to look out in the out years of the budget unless we have something more to base this on. so some someone were to tell, here it says that expect to have lower legal cost and we expect to have lower non-public school placements and i want to know why we expect that and we think that we are doing better and we think that we are going to do better, but do we have plan to do that. how long do we think that it will take. what do we think that the effects might be and i am hope hoping that we will not see another budget that does not have some of that planning and explanation, that is budget aligned. and it does not have to be and i actually hope that we will not see it, one year from tonight, but in sometimes, in the intervening time that we are talking about, the changes that we are make and what they are doing is that there will be

some component to it which is not just aspirational without any numbers for the budget. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> vice president fewer. >> to pass this budget is one of the main jobs of the people of the board and so i know that i have mentioned a couple of things tonight, i agree to pass the budget because i agree with a lot but i am trusting that i have been heard superintendent and we will try to find the money to serve these students better. so, with that, i am prepared to support this budget. >> commissioner maufas? >> i am also prepared to

support the budget, all of the issues that i have i could ask off line and they are just answers that i could not deseeufer in the conversations that we have been having. the one thing that i really want to understand as we go forward and i know and this is a long system that has been this way where we are turning our school sites are turning in budgets to the district office way earl in the year and based on information that they are going to have this money from what we understand is coming from the state. we don't even get that information until may. and then there is a couple of weeks of or months of back and forth. and i am hoping with what we know now, somehow, we can get that information to the school sites so that we can better project what they will have to work with and i think that is where the ongoing disconnect and how can we better help them be prepared to this is what we

know. and we do know that we are going to get more money, but this is going to be the reality of what you will be able to do with the money that you are going to get. and i would like to hear that articulated more from our central office. because what i get from school sites is we turned that in a long time ago and we can't do anything now. we have to work with the money that we have. waint to better understand what tools and resource dollars that they will have and i guess one of the things that i am constantly sort of trying to turnover in my mind is if we have priorities in the school sites have priorities, how often do they know what those, you know, where is the connection so that we understand fully what we all believe in? and i mean what we want to make

happen? i think that is, you know, a discussion that is not just for you deputy superintendent, lee and today's conversation, but really for our organization, as a whole. you know, how do we connect together to make certainty that we as board members are reflecting what our community is asking us to do? but also that translates to a school site and all of our school sites serving our students and families. and employees better. >> so i think that is the ongoing conversation, but it always seems so disconnected and i guess that i want to hear more articulation about how we connect in these conversations which really i hear that, that at this point, how does the money, work? how is the money working for us? >> and how are you working with the money in the central office, that is really a lot. i mean that is just a conversation today.

but ultimately it is a much larger conversation but it will get around to us where it will be the zenith of the money and we will be working better around the communication and so the school sites that i visit are less in the dark sort of like we did it a long time ago and we don't know where they stand and we know that there is more money but we don't know where we are going to get it. how do we know that it is coming and this is the way that it is going to look for you and for central office. i think that my over arching just commentary on our whole budget process and how the school sites figure into this and how we work with what the state gives us in resources and information. thank you. >> thank you, commissioner maufas, so everybody, i want to thank you it has been a really very good budget process, particularly the discussion ta we have had tonight at the budget committee last week, and the staff, that the information that we have gotten out of the

staff has been really, really great. and almost it is almost too much. but you know, more is always better than less. so, thank you and i think with that if there is no other comments from the bore members we will take roll call. >> miss lee? >> yes. >> wong? >> yes. >> fewer? >> yes. >> haney >> yes. >> maufas? >> yes. >> mendoza >> yes. >> murase. >> aye. >> wynns. >> aye. >> norton. >> aye. >> seven ayes. >> >> isn't eric showing up to sing for tom? >> we are now going to move on

to item i, board members proposals there are none tonight and we already took the request for the speak regarding general matters, item k, the reports to the advisory committee by board members there are none tonight, and item l, special order of business. i am going to call to order, the annual budget plan for special education, may i hear a motion and a second? >> moved. >> second. >> thank you. >> and may i have a reading of the recommendation by the superintendent or designee. >> i am going to ask dr. blanco to come forward and read. >> you can just read us the requested action which i believe is quite brief. >> the requested action of the board of education of the san

francisco unified school district convene a public hearing and adopt the annual budget and annual service plan for special education. >> nicely done. >> okay. i have several speakers signed up for this item. robin hansen has left. mega and katie franklin, two minutes, each. please. >> hi, megan calusa, i am a special education teacher and i want to comment on the fact that our local area plan has not been updated for a while and it was mentioned that as special education starts to look a little different in this district, we need to start planning for what that looks like as a whole district.

as it becomes a bigger part of our district in that thoughtfulness that goes into the planning for making sure that the teachers are prepared and that the district is prepared for it as a community. and i think that looking at our local area plan and having a discussion about it and updating it, so that we all have a singular vision of where we are going and what it takes to get there is really important. and i think that as part of this process, we should start looking at it for the future. and tonight we are voting. but it is really important that we put our money where our mouth is and right now we are putting our money out there but i am not sure that if we are connecting it to where we are going, because, we are kind of just putting it out there without updating our plan. so i strongly support, you know, working with the cac, as of advisory committee to update our plan to make sure that we

know where we are going, thank you. >> hi, katie franklin. and the new coding things that we heard on the materials that (inaudible) just gave us i am concerned because the rsf case loads 28 and if they are going to make all kids who were previously label included rfp students and then that is a huge certain. >> just out of, i think that i said that and i think that the doctor told me that i was wrong. >> so we will talk about it at the cac meeting >> that part does not count. >> sfuc special ed department has had five different directors and 6 years and the ensuing organizational chaos is a result of this instability has resulted in a many violations and oversights and overcoming years and years of this, and overcoming compliance with the special ed law is

going to take time and lots of money. so many teachers are saying that they don't know how to differentiate the curriculum and they need to be taught to do so. too many principals do not take ownership with the students with disability and they need to be taught how to do that and it is not something that they can choose to do or not. as superintendent carranza said earlier. so the district at last is telling those who think that they did not have to teach those kids that every student in our students is their student. and every child in their class is their student. so district leadership is now standing up for students with disabilities and letting everyone know that they have high expectations for all students, even kids with disabilities. and it is an exciting time and you can't undo years of doing it wrong, sorry. just by making an announcement, you have to reteach the staff, and have them unlearn the behaviors that were common place and accepted before. and i really don't want the

blame for the increase in special ed cost to go on the push for more ininclusive practices. and so it is like not it is not right. and so blame it on the chronic non-compliance that usfd was ordered to remedy. >> may i have a moment? >> okay. i sent you a large packet of data that the cac requested and it was great that we got it from the district and we hope to give you a analysis from the report in september. our comments that the annual plans are about the same as last year and there is much in equity and service delivery and a student special ed program should not have to rely on the parents ability to advocate for the kids. >> and it is up to the district staff to make sure that she is students are assessed in all areas of suspected disability and that they receive appropriate services. that is really not happening

yet. without the parents fighting for it. and so, with every budget decision made a litmus test should be what does this action do to help the students and support teachers and there are so many k, resolutions that i see that come before you that have no student contact box checked. not checked. and a lot more of those boxes should be checked. let me say thank you for the work that went into the document because it was clearly as a volunteer a lot of time and effort. so thank you for caring so much. >> are there any other questions or comments from board members on the local plan? annual service plan? >> seeing none, roll call please? >> lee?

>> yeah. >> wong. >> thank you. >> fewer? >> yes. >> haney >> yes. >> maufas. >> yes. >> mendoza. >> yes. >> murase. >> aye. >> wynns. >> aye. >> norton. >> yes. >> seven ayes. >> could i just take one moment to introduce the people who came with me. this is cherry jackson she is our new budget person a graduate of our schools and community member this is dj our analyst and both are willing to help the cac or you have any data or the information that you would like to clarify things. >> thank you. >> i know that a lot of the information that was contained in miss franklin's report and that you provided dr. blanco came from your department and it is wonderful and the amount and depth of the information that we are getting this year, so thank you. >> okay, we are now going to

move on to the approval of the fiscal year, 13, 14, adopted budget for the san francisco school district and the county office education in the standardized account code structure form in >> may i hear a motion and a second place? >> move. >> second. >> thank you. >> and may i have a brief reading of the recommendation please? >> good evening, superintendent and board members. i will read it, read the requested action. that the board of education approves a physical year, 13, 14, adopted budgets for the san francisco you unified school district and the san francisco county office of education in the official state forms prescribed by the state superintendent of public instruction in accordance with california education code sections 33129 and 42127.

>> thank you. there are no public speakers signed up for this item, are there any comments from the board and superintendent on the code format? >> seeing none? >> roll call. >> this is the booking case. >> and miss ly. >> yes. >> miss faoufr? >> yes. >> mr. haney >> yes. >> maufas. >> yes. >> mendoza. >> murase. >> aye. >> wynns. >> aye. >> norton. >> aye. >> 7 ayes. >> okay. we will move on to the san francisco unified school district and san francisco county office education balanced scored card and single plan for student achievement. may i hear a motion and second. >> so moved. >> second. >> may i have a brief reading of the requested action? thank you. >> requested action is that the board of education that the san francisco unified school district approves the san francisco unified school district and san francisco

county officer 13, 14, preliminary balanced score cards/single plan for student achievement. >> thank you. nicely done. no public speakers signed up for this item, any comments from the board and superintendent? >> seeing none, roll call please? >> ly? >> yes. >> miss fewer? >> yes. >> mr. haney. >> yes. >> maufas. >> yes. >> mendoza. >> yes. >> murase. >> aye >> wynns. >> aye. >> and norton. >> aye. >> 7 ayes. >> moving right along we will now consider the appointment to the child care planning and advisory council, cpac, may i hear a motion and a second >> moved, second. >> will you please give us a brief reading of the requested, recommendations please? >> thank you, commissioner. >> the request is that the board of education of san francisco unified school district may appoint or appoint the following people for the child care planning and

advisory council, the new appointments are for sharon donovan, and the new candidates are max, monica and >> there are no public speakers signed up for this item >> is there any comments? >> fewer? >> i would like to say that i love maria and she will be excellent. >> thank you. >> i wanted to introduce the coordinator with us tonight. >> thank you. >> commissioner mendoza? >> thank you. >> so i just wanted to actually had just a couple of questions with regards to the candidates and i know that we have been thinking a lot more. they don't realize that we appoint half of the cpac that does half of the oversight with

the child care and the direction that we are trying to go in with the new office of early care and education. and i think that you know we have been thinking a lot about how do we insure that there is great representation so i was really glad to see some of the folks that were putting forward, and i am curious how long, and i know that there is two new members, and but with regards to the others that are coming back, how long they have been on the cpac? >> good evening, commissioners. so, the members that are being reappointed they the terms are each for three years. and this would be their final term. and except for elaine will be eligible for one more three year term in the executive committee choose to move her forward and based on your approval. and after this slate, pending

your approval, there is one more spot open and we have a couple of applicants that are going through our membership committee and our executive committee tomorrow. >> once they make the recommendation to move forward it will then, you know, their application and resume will go to you. >> so you said that they have one more, this is their last three-year term. how many terms do they get to be on? >> or they are just on for three years. >> they are on for three years and, then they have to go through you know the application process and the recommended slate to the board of supervisors that the board of education again. >> and so you have and they can stand on for how long years and so th just keep coming back on every three years. and you can serve a total of three, three year terms and so at the end of a three-year term that the executive committee and the membership committee and you know we on an ongoing

basis we collect application and so they have to go you the process to be approved through cpac and either the board of education or the board of supervisors. >> someone like sharon who has been on the cpac, could you tell me how many terms she has served. i am trying to figure out how long they have been on the cpac? have they done or this is the third three year term or this is their first three year term? >> no, this would be sharon's last term. >> i guess last is confusing, because if it is last, but they can renew? >> they can apply again? >> i am sorry, i would be specifically to her i would have to see according to the list that i just... i did not bring all of the information that she is eligible for one more three-year term so this will be her final three-year term. back in i believe, 2007, 2008,

i don't think that i brought the bi laws, so they can serve up to three, three year terms. >> correct. >> and so, with the other four that are not the new the other four they are all serving their last three-year terms and so they will be on the board for nine years after this three year term if we approved them tonight? >> no, i am sorry. so, all of the members, except for it would be monica this is her first. >> this is her last term. >> so this will be, they will would have been on the commission for 9 years. is what you are telling me? >> does this, effect your ability to vote on this? >> it does. i just want to understand how long people have been on this

commission because it... it is moving and it is just a lot of things that are happening and so i am just curious how long people have been on the commission. and again this is more... as a board we do not engage in this process the way that we could and so if we are looking at an organization that will help not only our early care but our early education, we want to have representation that is reflective of the board. and you know, i think that year after year, we trust that you are sending us good people that is not the question. the question is how long have people been on so that there is, we can think about other folks or different representation or you know support people that have been on the board or whatever it is, i am just... so i just want to get a better understanding, because we have never really desecretaried this from the

school board's perspective and i understand it a little bit more. i want to make sure that my colleagues understand the importance and value of this cpac appointments as well. so, like where she has been on for ten years, and well, i guess that she could not be on for ten years because she would have been six years if she was doing her last three years. >> i am an organizizer parent and i have been a cpac member for more than ten years now. >> that is very confusing. >> i was appointed by supervisor sophie maxwell. >> is there a time sensitive nature to these appointments. so we need to get it done, tonight? >> so just to speak to so it was back in i believe it was 2007, 2008, i apologize to not bringing a copy of the bi laws

with me. they redid them and that is when there were set term limits and so story was on for longer. and that was prethe bi laws and setting the term limits. >> i think what it was she had a different slot. i think that once it was a consumer and then she became the community member. because there are different slots. but i think that what commissioner mendoza is asking is about the person. right? can the person stay on? >> they recently put in the term limits, maybe. >> but we don't know. but this is my question, if you have ever right to want to have the answers to these questions before we vote, if we don't have the information with us this evening, is there a imperative to voting before the end of the month or is this something that can come back to the board in august with all of the information so that we

would have a better understanding? >> i don't know. i am not trying to... i am trying to understand, i want to be able to unpack this because it is not a discussion that we normally have with the board. can it wait until august or do they have to be appointed before then. >> there is also state mandates so it is not just choose any one that is recommended. we have 20 percent of the candidates have to be child care providers and 20 percent have to be community representative and 20 percent consumers and parents and 20 percent public agency and 20 percent of discretion sxaer that is over the board and the board of education sorry, and the board of supervisors. and a couple of weeks ago i met with carla bryant and she also that they were saying about being more engaged and so we