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the entry at the first and second floors all in kind. and i do have a new detail for the medal framed, lobby window. and which they were able to submit this week and we will look closely to the original glazing profile and then what is, it is shown in your packets what i shown in your packets has rectangular and what is submitted will have a spoked profile. >> and next, there will, rebuild the raised planner beds in the front and set backyard area and replace the non-historic glading with a raised black tile to closely match the original with the tile and the metal detail as shown in the 1940 photograph and the product sample of the tile of what they are planning to use and next they will replace the damaged metal front doors in kind also, to replace the handles to match the
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original 1940s design and next they will replace the 2 damaged metal projecting curved over hangs over the entry and at the art or the stream line and the section of the building, and they will plan to match the original 1940s design and also recreate and install the light fixture as shown in the 1935 and the 1940s photograph. and they will lastly repair and reenstall the historic box as shown in 1940 photograph. at the courtyard, they plan to rebuild the structure as the walls are deter ated and the foundation on this is insufficient. >> the courtyard, they plan to replace the deter ated structure and stucco in kind wanting to match the existing
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pattern and also they plan to replace in kind the 20 wood framed windows and doors and they also plan to remove the spoked roof. and it was the source of the water intrusion and we place this with a flat roof in conformance with the other roof lines in the courtyard. and last, they would like to add one arch headed wood frame and the window on the east wall of the courtyard that will match the existing historic windows on that wall. at the third floor, and on the south wall which is not visible from the front or from the street, they plan to replace an existing door and a glass, block window wall with a new door and two new double hung windows and roughly in the same opening and as the interior they plan to replace the non-historic floor tile in the lobby with a new 24-inch square marble tile, and the pattern is
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to be decided on. on a later date and they plan to empty the opening through the lobby and they can insert a sheer wall. and the project description is incorrect and they will be able to save the existing door just fix it shut and put the door behind that. >> they plan to repair the existing lobby chandaleir and to repaint and match the walls. >> the owner has subcured the stabilization of the landmark building and the work is involved in the extensive repairs and the replacement of the system and of water and electrical and trainage and heating system and the staff approved an administrative for the non-visible facades based on the requirements of article ten and the secretary of the
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interior standards, the staff has determined that the work is compatible with the designs of the building and the owner has also asked trembel to have a separate analysis and they also said that it will meet the approval. >> at the primary facade we found that the proposed treatment in the appropriate and necessary for the rehabilitation of the landmark building of the water and damage requires that many historic features will be replaced, and we are asking however, that these areas are properly documented and drawing photographs prior to me approval so that we can assure that the least amount will be removed as possible. >> the material subtaouses are proposed to the cost availability or durbility concerns that they are appropriate in keeping with the character of the historic building and they found that
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the window and the doors and the adequate care have been taken to document the featured so that they can be replicated in kind and we will also support the replication of the light features based on the historic photographs and the propairing of the clock. at the courtyard, the staff found that the alteration in the roof form and also for the addition on the one new window opening would pb in keeping with the character of the courtyard and would not remove any special design or features. and at the regarding the work at the third floor and south wall, staff finds that the original wall openings will remain essentially the same as i mentioned causing minimal removal of the historic materials and that the modifications do not effect any character defining features of the building and also that this change will not be a result from the public right-of-way and regarding the work at the interior, and staff found that
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the proposed floor tile is in keeping with the art deco style of the building and that it is an appropriate substitute material. staff also finds that the premoval of the opening and infilled the opening between the lobby and the display case will be or will not effect any characters or planning futures of the space. lastly, the staff, supports the repair of the interior wall finishes and the wall chandalier and that they will be drawn prior to construction, the department staff recommends approval with the conditions of the proposed project and we proposed the 7 conditions and first that prior to issuance of any building permits proposing alteration of the landmark and the lobby the sponsor shall
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submit the drawings that drar identify the rehabilitation of the space and including the fixture and finishes and second that prior to the issuance of any building permits that the alteration or demolition of the primary facade, the project sponsor shall document the deteration for all of the features with the photography and that the project sponsor shall submit the planned drawings that clarify the extent of the dry rot and termite damage and deteration, as part of the building permit, the sponsor shall provide product specification and existing and proposed shop drawings for the futures to be replicated including the entry doors, light fixtures and the awnings and this will all be submitted for review and approval by a preservation staff. fourth, that as part of the building permit, the project sponsor shall provide a protection plan and during construction and it identifies
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any needed repair or cleaning treatments. fifth, that the preservation staff may review and approve the clading with the color and it shows that it closely matches the historic painted finish and 6th that all material samples including the window frame tile sampled and the glass box sampled provided by the applicant will be submitted to the department for retention until the department is completed and that the preservation staff will arrive to approve prior to the work to make sure that the details are matched. and so that completes my presentation. and the property owner, jeff is here to explain the project in more detail and give you visuals and the project engineer and contractor i believe are also here, if you have any questions for them. thank you. >> i just have a question. >> did you visit to the site? >> i have not been on this site
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because it has been under construction, and just to stabilize the building in the last couple of months it has been hard to arrange access to the site. but i would be... the site as part of the conditions of approval. >> thank you. >> so has anyone from the planning staff seen this actual like the condition of the front doors or the windows or anything yet? >> we have only been provided photographs by the project sponsor. >> all right. >> and i believe that the staff is also here and i believe to discuss the project and i believe that it is the... that the owner could clarify that for you. >> thank you. >> and commissioner, the department staff and designation staff is recently designated did tour the entire site and did evaluate and they did see the conditions at the sight during the time of designation. >> and if we could hear from the project sponsor.
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>> my name is jeff darby and i would like to thank the commission for considering proposal and everybody from the building and the planning department's forgiveness and especially mary brown who actually pushed for the landmarking of the building. and i would also like to bring to the commission's attention, that this project would have been totally impossible, without the professional skill advice and mentoring while the general contractor, kevin macen who is in the back, and the room, and also, about structural engineer o'neil and i have seen the people working miracles because with the buildings like this you can't move structural ibeams and you have to use the beams unless you man handle them into the building, thank you all very, very much. >> and we are very excited to
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not only bring back to a truly unique building to help in some small way in the neighborhood. we have already undertake rn and it is proposed and the path of the presentation that i put together and it was included in the packages, and the biggest issue with this building was near death it was horrendously savaged by two nights and it was destroyed, 25 percent of the structural integrity and i am thinking now that we said enough about all of the structural issues and we feel a little bit like the last samarui and tell me how he died. i will tell you how he lived. and that is how i feel about the building and we have gone into and. and we recently uncovered.
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and it was the history is all about us and there were more in the buildings where we lived and from them, we can begin to understand what shape pass lives of people and i have been lucky during my career to have lived in great cities with beautiful architecture and paris has the gorgeous, and london with the great natural museums and the science museum and the recent with the railway station and the san francisco historic buildings, and the much younger era and in the modest era this building is unique and not just for what they did and also for those who worked in lived in the building in later year. most of you don't know this played an exciting role in the 60s when san francisco was the start of capitol for psychedelic rock bands, i remember those times very well because 45 years ago this summer, i was a british
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university student. and the holy sea of the fillmore west where joplin were playing, and so last week, when george went into the building and saying that i am back. and i am traveling back in time to where george in the building and in the late 60s and was a founding member of the first psychedelic rock bands and the living covers for the local grups and the messages service, and the stories for the businesses who worked and partied in the building and we could not remember who installed the green garden in the basement of the building. and i smiled and i told him that we had to take it a light lighter in the watering system. and he did remember the space and they were part of the old road crew and they provided the
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sound equipment in 69 and jefferson airplane and the velvet underground and they have been expounded and also developed the electronics for those new electronic guitars in that era and manufactured a repaired guitar and for david crosby's 12 string guitar which is still in the family and still exists. and george hinted and we can take a video of them. and he hinted that joplin's nude with beads photograph, and might have been taken in a studio up on the second floor, and so, okay. and so where is the building with a lot of colorful paths and we keep on researching it, and eventually we will try to get some videos put together and actually dedicate it to a video of a website in the building. and the one last point before
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everyone disappeared back into the details. in all of the major cities around the world that i have been to, and i have been to a lot of the italy an cities as well. one thing strikes me that they have figured out how to bury the overhead power cable and why can't we do something in the sunset district and why can't we plant the trees and i think that this action alone, because i recently rented a house in the outer sunset, this actual could really change and invying rate the area and i am sure that they would only be too pleased to help financially and one last thing, some of the slides if you might have seen. we would love to move the trolly bus power cable to the downward side of the building to get a clear shot into the building and we are putting a tremendous amount of effort into restoring the building.
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what i would like to do is move it out of view and also we are talking to the hong kong family that owns the building to the right of that picture and that garage was the original henry dolcer garage and we are asking, and this is a toughy, if we can buy it from them and also the brick that we saw today, and these people, and their far east are prepared to hold you to ransom. and so we will see what we can do and we very much would like to purchase that and then visit together so that you have a complete landmark. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is aaron and i am the project engineer and design on this from the very start, it has been an absolute pleasure to work with jeff he has nothing but the best intentions in rehab taiting and restoring this
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building. and i was shocked in the amount of damage that the termite haves done. i have never seen anything like this the real extent of the damage was no one did it and opened up some of the interior walls. and an example here, is in this slide, and at the entry, and we opened up to see, what was going on with the foundation and discovered that it was along the western side due to the water from the adjacent property and when we removed the stucco on the wall to investigate it even further, the whole thing collapsed. and so, it is removed my faith in a higher power, that is more than gravity at work here and as this was literally holding much of this building together. and so, we endeavored to rehab tait this building and make
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sure that it as a landmark is here and we upgraded it to the full rig ors of the code and bring it up to ada compliance and it is starting in the sprinkler system to insure that it can benefit the neighborhood. and it can offer a good viable commercial space for the potential tenants and keep the neighborhood vibrant. and as we went through the project, the extent of the damage became more and more noticable to such an effect, that and here is the perfect example. and this is the severe termite damage at its worse and actually we will open it up and look at it from the end and you will see that a lot of times they are just hallowed out and this is a major load bearing beam, and into the cardboard. and when you took off the
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finishes. and so, it is our goal to work with the planning staff and we have been grateful to have such a great staff working with us. and the level of detail is absolutely paramount to everyone involved in this and as a result we also hired someone to review this work to make sure that it complies to the standards for the ten standards for rehabilitation. and then, we are really excited to see this move forward and bring this into the next century and have it here for the future generations. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> do we have any public comment on this item? >> seeing none. commissioners? >> commissioner wolfram? >> i guess, i have one sort of general concern, which is about integrity of kind of what is
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left, because pret where much and that is why i asked the question of whether he has actually visited the site, because i think that it is obviously a lot of damage and this work needs to be repaired and i am looking at the material and i am just wondering if it seems like pretty much everything is being replaced on the front, the doors, the windows, the glass blocks, the stucco, and so there is not everything is new and this building is 81 years old and we don't want it to look like it is brand new when it is all complete. i think that it is older and so even some of the things like the little side light windows on either side of the display windows is it necessary to replace those? are there some things that you could actually keep? the marquee? i am questioning the level of newness that is going to happen when this is all done? >> here in the back, was within
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five seconds of missing that main window, the center window had collapsed and the part front, and the front part of the building flexes as the buses go by and one day when the lunchtime that window collapsed and that was after we came down to the city building department and we actually had the head of the building department give us a lecture like you don't know what an emergency scaffolding permit is and we don't give those easily and we got roasted. one week later that window collapsed and it was just after she had walked underneath it and we go back to the city and there was a (inaudible) and we got the scaffolding to hold the front of the building up and the problem is honestly, from just that damage from the perspective, there is no plate and there is no foundation, i mean the foundation scrum bells and everything is gone and i think that it was like the brick discussed before we take it down brick by brick and in
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this case, that front has detached itself from everything and it was flapping and the scaffolding up and we will do as much as we can and the club will be repaired and professionally and that will be a fabulous when it comes back, and it will be found and the original drawings from los angeles, and we are redoing the chandalier being done by a designer in la and so we are replacing everything that we can structurally and it is being very dangerous. >> and what about the display windows? >> the display windows on either side? >> the small window? s could those be retained? >> our goal in that portion is to retain as much as possible. and this however, at the bottom are all chewed out and not in contact with the concrete and so the force is actually going by in the redwood into the concrete and so if we can, we
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can insure it in place and repair it as much as we can. and however, we would want to replace the windows in kind with new insulated at the very least. they will make sure that they walk and they look exactly the same. and and the foundation needs to be replaced underneath and and it will be shored in order to help with the foundation and cut in the bottom of the stoves to the good wood and put in the new plate there and so we do hope to save that portion of the facade and the stream line modern portion of the west and it is beyond the repair and completely disintegrated and the whole western side of the building is 12 inches and as a result of this and this that was going on at the foundation. and that portion has to be repaired 100 percent.
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>> and commissioner? >> i just want to talk about how we went from the ridiculous to the sublime relative to our earlier conversation about the brick and now to the attention to wanting to take on what sounds like rebuilding an entire building and i appreciate what commissioner wolfram is saying, but i have and i love this building and i am very thrilled that it is a landmark and that there is someone here who will take such loving, you know, pay such loving attention to it so that you know, even down to you know, getting a light fixture recreated and i know that all of these things are expensive and i love that your stories are fantastic and that you are able to have a video ar khief of the people that have been in and out of that building it is
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fantastic. and so i just want to applaud you for your efforts and thank you. >> on behalf of the historic community of san francisco. >> thank you. >> and this is an inspiring project and i move approval. >> pretty basic. >> yeah. >> and second. >> commissioner hylan? >> yes. >> just to pick up, and i was going to say that i commend you for loving this building. and i think that it is an inspiration to have the building owners like you and but i would like to pick up on what commissioner wolfram has asked and has there been an evaluation of the existing materials of specifically the window frames and the smaller windows. and some of this material could be removed and reenstalled. so that, i mean, i mean, i will pick that up. >> particularly the lobby doors and the lobby windows.
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they are the stainless steel that were pocketed with what used to be non-compatible rivets and screws that were used and so as a result of the integrity is completely gone and the water has gotten inside and framed and the doors and the mechanisms in the door don't work any more and so structurally. as jeff alluded to, the window was insufficient to each take a minor vibration from the muni line and so as a result in the interest of safety, we are pushing to get this replaced with a new window and we will of course have as we have been working with the staff, make sure that it matches as much as possible. for the existing window. and the configuration and there as a couple more pictures here
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and that the glass block for example, and you can see here is it is just a mix match of the styles that are and with no decertainable pattern and regarding the glass block we are going to chose, the style and going to make it more controlling in the society, and the lobby window frame which is essentially the rail that acts as a structural report and we are taking the pain of death, and so it is insufficient. and you can see that some of the rusting that is going on here as well. and this is a view of in the lobby window. and these hazardous materials
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and the lead paint and it is in the project as well. and in the interest of doing it right. and with the 24 reminding and the star findings and we would like to bring it up to a good standard and that we would like to put in the double pain and as a result, just a larger and stronger frames for them. and i do have some concerns. and is really going to come down to the details and if the building is recreated to kind of look like it was and so there were a couple of issues and it is going to change the appearance of the building and i think that is for this architecture, if you are going to look at it and say that i would suggest that we look at a
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single pane. >> from the big window? >> yeah. >> it really is not going to come down to the details and i know that you love the building and i do this work a lot and i don't want to create more work for you and discourage you from doing good things for the building but i am concerned and i think that the doors, and maybe the mechanisms are defunk, but could the doors themselves have the hindges put on them it just seems like the whole replacement. and well, if a may, the doors that are in place, they are so buckled and warped in the rusting that is going on for the last whole life i guess. and it is not practical. to replace them or to work with
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them so we are try to recreate them and match them in the side as much as possible and we are going to bring it back to more of the original style in terms of the handlebars, and the bars let around the doors and so it is not just the mechanisms and the workings of the doors, it is really the entire door that is really not salvageable. >> and in terms of the double glazing, i mean, that is something that we could certainly talk about with the staff. and my concern is the structure and the integrity of at least the frames are structurally sufficient to take what is 15 pounds per square foot and design reload. and at the moment, just cannot even take, a tenth of that. and so, one thing on the doors that i have been just been reminded and again, because
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