the expansion. i was wondering what role "the nation" can play in helping to support the program. >> we've done a lot of work around expanding doctors into rural community centers. americorps is a good program. all of those should be supported. we have not done as much. there has been controversy at the magazine. i am more of a supporter of teach for america than my colleagues. they are good programs. >> what could we do collectively as the next up for occupy wall street? -- next step for occupy wall street? >> what is your main interest in

the issues raised by occupy wall street? if it is money and politics, you should join with those who are occupying the supreme court, fighting in states for clean money reform, and fighting for an amendment strategy to overturn the citizens united decision, and fighting in elections to change the supreme court. >> what would you think of having a national general assembly modeled on the original continental congress in philadelphia beginning on july 4 of 2012? coming up with a list of grievances that this assembly

debated. >> lawrence blessing has talked about a new constitutional convention. i think it is early. i think it is tricky. i do not mean to sound too conservative. when you say to make a list of grievances, we could sit in this room and come up with a list of six ideas or grievances that need to be made real and lead to change. you need to find your issue, work in your community. work in the organizing around the issue. link up with groups doing work. if it is student debt, find ways to take on the banks, local legislators, and congress in the

short term. is not very revolutionary. at the event we did on 9/11, i said i felt this country was in a pre-revolutionary moment. it was about a week before occupy was street launched. i believe in evolution, not revolution. >> katrina, did you read the foreign affairs article that backs up the occupy movement? there was a recent article about the new progressive movement. there is more coming out about the occupy agenda and what they want. you have articulated some of the agenda. geoffrey sax talked about three- regulating the market -- regulating the market. it is all there.

why is it not been articulated by the media? >> i think it is. it is not up to -- different occupy's have different demands. it is up to people like "the nation" and other groups like rebuild the dream, national people's action, the progressive caucus. occupy wall street is a spirit. they're committed at the moment to not having concrete demands. we have six ideas. one would be the robin hood tax. the other would be to change the way our tax structure is organized, how to get money out of politics, hold corporations responsible, support attorney

general's fighting for for closure relief. there are six of 10. >> have you ever been wrong? [laughter] >> occupy wall street is a moral compass. they are articulating what they think it should be. the lead essay is a shift. i am wrong all the time. >> give me one example. [laughter] >> i said on national television the night -- election night of 2000 as florida was coming in that the election would be decided that night. people may remember that election was decided by the supreme court.

it went on for two or three months. it ended up being decided by the governors, bush's brother, a supreme court judge chosen by his father. george bush was asked if he had ever been wrong and said he could not think of a time. he is still saying that. [laughter] humble man. we are about out of time. do you have a short question? >> what is the circulation of "the nation"? >> 1.5 million readers online and 160,000 paper circulation. paul newman was a great and loyal friend and supporter.

his partner in crime, robert redford, has been a supporter. we have a circle of 100 people who give each year. 30,000 associates give little each month above the subscription price in the belief it is not just a media institution but a community. there are 40 discussion groups around the country. [applause] >> these people obviously support it for what it espouses and believes in. do they all know that you have dirty martinis and marvin gaye? >> you have to keep perspectives. everyone's work is demanding. it is trying to make sense of these times and keep some hope. if we were meeting this time

last year, it was a bully -- bleak time. we were coming off an election with the tea party claimed it had a mandate. i try to read history, drink dirty martinis, listen to marvin gaye, watch "true blood." vampires, everything. >> this has been fabulous. our thanks to katrina vanden h euvel, publisher of "the nation." [applause] we want to remind everybody that copies of her book are on sale in the lobby. she would be pleased to sign them.

we aappreciate your allowing her to make her wait the lobby as quickly as possible. this meeting is adjourned. [applause] >> everyone. thank you. my name is carl i'm the president of the silicon leadership groufrp we're happy

you joined us for a town hall with mayor ed lee with the obama administration on the action on immigration founded here just a few blocks away. that what matters is we have a

mare that understands the issues a nearest and dear it to us and that's immigration reform. since it's inception we've gotten over 20 visas alone and the feeling is we have a shortage on green talent when we need to go through the steps we need to go through and for the tech community we're focused on opening up our technical school to the global community. we're in a talent war along with a state war on services gov. and anything we can help to create change here means so much to us. we have the mayor who can

creative impact so we stand behind mayor ed lee and we're thrilled he's here. i'm so excited to here what he is has to say. thank you (clapping) >> julia and kevin a thank you for being subpoena great community leaders were we're going to have a robust town meeting this is being live for my radio program. we like to let people know in advance. i'm going to ask a few questions then we're going to open it up to you for the awe loltd time we have. so with that we're going to

start. welcome to our ceos for our live town hall with the live host along with san francisco's mayor ed lee and 3 entrepreneurs we're going to be hearing a lot about as they continue on the road to technology and on comprehensive immigration reform. to work within the time we have i'm going to dispense with long introductions but let me mention the enterprises. this people has gnltd from

europe and she co- founded her company. born in columbia we have alexander he is the do founder of voice bunny and he's a recent father and returned almost right after his little girl was born to the white house to be honored and we'll be hearing about that. and the third narrator is the chief at bright sons. we received his masters in commuter science and other degrees from ucla. join me in welcoming our panel

people. and as mayor as one of the finite cities in america why are you supporting immigration >> thank you carl. let me repeat my hangz or thanks for julia and kevin. this is the first company i visit in this city and carl thank you. and the carl bishop group is very important working with our chamber of commerce and the other nonprofit. a simple answer is jobs. the reason i'm working on immigration reform. i used to be a civil rights

attorney and helped folks to 0 reunite with their families. but at the time the direction connect to the history of the city being a city of immigrants 35 percent of all the small businesses in san francisco was owned by an immigrant. our whole history this city's been built on good immigrants who found ideas and employed others. and today that story has not changed. i think that the businesses in succeed if we have good sound business policies but we make sure there's comprehensive immigration reform. because we've he learned over the years is that there are

millions of people in the state of california and undocumented folks in san francisco that are not part of our official economy that are hiding. because of fear that will not participate in health prevention because of fear. because of that we have to have an immigration policy it is forward-looking and make sure there's a path to censorship[p. we're in a worldwide talent war. are we going to lose to other great cities or are we going to make sure we're getting the talent. i know the conversations are a

bit sensitive but we're not taking anything away from our companies. i have investments in europe where we train residents to be part of the technology we have but at the same time certain areas need that worldwide talent. event pride is not just here for local customers but for events around the world. and that's true for every company in the chamber of commerce wants worldwide so immigration is part of their dna of recruiting talents to get the worldwide talents that are competent. i want to break in the african and latin america and our

businesses to be represented all over the world because our sdm dna is about being a national city. san francisco has always been a part of the conversation about immigration and this is a time of very unique opportunity time where congress has this one's in a lifetime ability to make the updated changes. we need to reflect what our business you demands are going forward to hopefully reflect the need to bring people out of the dictate area of undocumentation and into the lime light and have them fully participate and as mayors and major cities across the country we need that

comprehensive immigration reform. we have other things to talk about on the aspects of that. but i'm pride to join our homeland security to make sure that we are talking about this and sending a message to congress and all our representatives. our country to be fully covered we have a lot to do with us passing reform immigration policies >> that was well said. just as jan napoleon said that but you led the catholic immigration programs in the country iowa why is this important to you?

>> it is. >> good afternoon, everyone it's a great week to be here i'm fortunate to be here. i have to commit a moment ago we were gathered in the conference room and as i listen to the president reiterate that our system is a broken but we need to more than immigration system and as i listen to you abnormalities i realize your voice will carry and we'll create the needs like entrepreneurs like you and we'll drive home the point that immigration is a driving force

for us didn't economy. i wish i could bottle up your voices and take it to white house. and how you're going to take that voice and a messages and clear and concise and a informative manner you did with me to the house because we're confident that this b will roll over the the house. today support the mayor's reform? >> absolutely. i started my career with the trial attorney position. i've been a business owner and have had a private practice and representing clients and representing businesses and

representing individuals and also, they vulnerable population so i'm one of those unique attorneys that's done the range of immigration work because i'm passionate i have seen the by his side and what it does it our economy and families and our community and i've seen the incredible force that enterprises bring to revitalize our community and to hire talent from within and aboard. i've seen great entrepreneurship by welcoming talented folks from aboard so reforming the immigration system i hope i'll get a chance to be part of it. and we're looking forward to putting together a team and

rolling out the historic reform of that system >> thank you for this conversation. >> thank you to our san francisco chamber of commerce and business forward and sf city for co- hosting this town hall. i'm eager to hear from the other companies about their stories of immigration. tell us your own stories. we're to start with you the ceo of illuminate. >> so my story is not any more special then the stories of what you've heard. you group in india.

i gave a shout out and my family really believes in education and the empowerment through education. there is a certain resistlessness and get out of your comfort zone and explore other things. that's how i got here. the path is not easy it's taken 12 years to get a green card. it limits ones opportunity. first, it will take a long time before the h1 process will allow you to move before jobs and you can't start a business. it took me 9 months to start a business. i was so restless to start

something so you take capable individuals who are smart and driven and you can't limit them. the comprehensive immigration reform everybody in this room agrees we have to pass high school immigration. but having being on the spotlight you can't really traffic or switch between companies and now imagine the population that's route rights and i think it is morally not acceptable. and the children thought they had a country but apparently the country doesn't want them. >> alexander your story.

>> hello. i'm originally from columbia and i was back in columbus. i was in love with computers but we didn't have enough money. eventually this is 1994 i had access to the internet around 1997 and 98. i knew everything was happening in the u.s. i bought a one way ticket to the u.s. i realized my english was really bad. so i had to eat a lot of hamburgers. the only way i realized there was no way to stay in the u.s. if i wanted to be a entrepreneur

so i went back to excellently in columbus in order to pursue any career and i co- founded my first immigrant status. but within a year we had 6 employees i was told i had to leave the country. the - and definitely it's slowing me down. and i was being told to go back to columbia. once you go back to the columbia back in 1999 it was hard to come back. so i was as a entrepreneur not being able to stay here but i feel he fell in love with the

love of my life and we had a daughter a week ago. we accelerated our may this and i was able to stay. she ended up being the co co- founder of my business too. this has to do with inhabitation. we went into the largest bank of voice on demand. we we really had a crowd of thousands of people working from home. we enable thousands of americans to get hired we - so not no where your creating video games in russia you want nice voices for that.

we have be able to push the american accent and it's enabling thousands of people to work for companies all over the planet. but again my life is attached to immigration show you. in columbus we're constantly instrumental. we kind of bring people to the u.s. it's hard to get visas. we were not lucky to get visas two of the 3 we petitioned for for the visas we didn't depreciate. i'm a big advocate for immigration. my mother was