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continued until i retired so it was a long two weeks. a lot of times cities don't understand how deep the issue goes. i have had my card handed out, this is my phone number. i have absolutely no problem with people calling me any time to discuss graffiti issues, graffiti cases, any of that stuff, i am always available. that's why i put my card out there. so first off, before we get into the graffiti part we have to talk about the person whos going to be dealing with graffiti when he goes to court. personnel and training are the two keys to success in any detail, we're going to talk specifically about graffiti but in any assignment as a police
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officer. when we hire on a police officer we look for 3 things besides integrity, we look for the ability to do the job, the desire to do the job and the interest. if you are missing any of those 3 things eventually the officer will not be successful. when i was in personnel we were only hiring about 1 out of every 100 people who applied to the city. so you can see it's a very stringent requirement when you are looking for people to do what you want to have done. this is particularly important when you are initially deciding who wants to be a police officer, we want to get them through the academy, get them through probation and make them successful officers. but it's just as important when becoming a member of a specialty unit. the iplt is really big. there are probably people in this room saying i
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got graffiti when somebody else wanted it, and that's hard. and there's people like me and the officers i have hired into my units that just love the job and see the value in it, see the value for the community. so you've got to have that interest or else, again, you are going to have not as successful an officer. now you found the officer, you got him figured out, i talk a lot about officers but the same applies to civilians, anybody sitting out in this audience. because my concept is anybody can be a graffiti expert and a lot of that comes down to training. where do you find this training? first it's police officers, we get a lot of it through approved training classes, things certified by the state, post-classes and that's fairly consistent in a lot of states that have a group that authorizes what kind of training the officer gets. articles and books, that's fairly self-explanatory. and
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really you wind up in the next group, which is the internet. there's so much stuff on the internet, if you are curious about anything having to do with graffiti, start googling graffiti stuff. if you get on you tube, put down tag crews fighting, that's not just battling with paint, that's physically fighting with altercations. the thing about the internet, sometimes people will ignore some of the major graffiti sites because we're out here to fight graffiti, why do we want to go to a graffiti site. a lot of these guys when they have dedicated graffiti sites like art (inaudible) you can read all kinds of articles written by taggers for taggers trying to train other people to be better vandals. so don't ignore the fact there's stuff out there for the graffiti vandal because that can be of huge use to you.
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meetings, we hold a monthly task force meeting and our task force meeting pretty much covers everything from santa barbara down to san diego is our main group we have a task force meeting with. we share ideas, it's evolved over the years, become more formal. now each time we have a meeting we try to do some new training or talk about the technology available, i will talk about the technology in my class this afternoon. it's really good because we document it because when you go to court, you can show training on a monthly basis. conferences, i can't tell you how excited i am these are happening. only in the last two or three years have these major conferences come about. the one up in canada, they were a great group of conferences
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and other people started to pick up on this. when i became an officer dealing with gravanis in 1991, there were no conferences and there was virtually no interest. as dr. spicer mentioned, every time it got good, i foupld myself out of a job. i was out of a job for about 6 months because it fell apart and then came back together. mer and more cities are realizing gravanis is a pattern crime and as dr. spicer pointed out, it's a great way crime to many other activities. so you can wind up precluding with a lot of other stuff by dealing with them when they are down to the part doing gravanis damage before they escalate to a more violent crime or serious crime. it's nice to attend different trainings. this one here is great because we have people from all over the country, canada and the united kingdom.
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i would never do that or couldn't do that because of the laws in my political jurisdiction or whatever, we are not allowed to do that. then there's going to be other things when you think, gosh, i never thought about that, i think that would work really good. i'm going to take it back it my jurisdiction. probably over the past few years i've got 500 people i've dealt with, officers that have come to the class and subsequently become gravanis experts and set up programs. almost every program is different. a lot of the basis is the same, the information is consistent worldwide but people will tweak what information they are going to use and how they are going to be allowed to operate. some are in plain cars, some in marked units, it all depends how it's going to go. take the information you get, there's so much good information here today and tomorrow, take the information you want, take it back and integrate it into however you are going to work your program.
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when we come right down to it, it's not important what you know, it's what you can prove in court. probably every officer sitting in this room can say i have an investigation or we did an investigation where we did the investigation, i know the guy was dirty, i know he did the crime, you send it to the da and the da says you do not have enough to prove it in court. in my career i had numerous people i believed did homicides that we could not take to court because we did not have enough provable evidence. i think that a lot of lay people underestimate the abilities of law enforcement professionals and maybe it's because i've been a cop 28 years but i think cops are the most adaptable trainable guys i've ever been around, the quality of people in the police ranks is upb deniablely good. it's good that a lot of people underestimate it because a lot of criminals underestimate us
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and quite often you will finish a long-term investigation where the crime happened 6 months ago and when you are interviewing the guy and he says, i never thought you'd catch me, and they don't. they don't think you will catch them but officers spend the time to do it and again that comes from their training and working with it. as a law enforcement officer you are required to come up with expertise in all kinds of disciplines. you come to work as a patrol officer and you walk out on the street, first call you get might be to go to a traffic accident. you have to look at the physics, you have it look at the scene and see what happened. you might leave there and go to narcotics activity, leave there and go to child abuse, a shooting, a stabbing, those are all different crimes. when you
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think about it, that's a staggering amount of information the officer has to know and he's going to get grilled in court to make sure he knew that information. experts are all made, none of them are born. say an officer goes to traffic, he has a real interest in traffic and he's going to do traffic reconstruction and everything up to fatal accidents. for him to be able to do that, he's got to go out to a scene, he has to look at evidence, he has to be basically a map maker to create a diagram about what occurred, he has to look at the weight of the vehicle, the radial skids, apply the laws of physics and come up with a reasonable explanation about what occurred in that accident. same thing, a narcotics officer goes in, he comes in cold. he's going to have to learn things like chemistry because he may walk into an active methamphetamine lab because he's going to make a decision how that lab will be
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shut down and his decision can affect the lives of everyone walking into that scene. that's quite a bit of a jump to go from a civilian to basically figuring out how you will protect people in a scene like that. so we get to gravanis, there's nothing to gravanis compared to those things. the biggest issue with gravanis over the years, when i started in the early 90's is there was very little information out there and it was difficult to come up with consistent information. and i have dedicated a huge amount of my career to creating consistent information that we can take into court. this is kind of a good example because i have an hour to speak up here. anybody who has heard me speak knows an hour is not a whole lot of time for me. but when you good to court, you are going to be in the same situation. when i go to testify in court to take these guys to trial, your time is going to be very limited. in that time, you're going to have to go in there and present simple, understandable concepts
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as to what is the foundation of your case and you have to go in there and do that to educate the jury and to educate the judge. a lot of these people and the judge have never been in front and had to deal with a gravanis type case. the information should be consistent. you have defense attorneys that start going through 2 or 3 our 4 cases and they hear the same thing and they hear somebody professing to be an expert and this guy does not know, it puts a big hole in his expertise right off so we wanted to have something consistent. now, if you properly present this information, it will easily establish the officer as a credible expert and at that point you can start rendering expert decisions. trainings that you go to should be set up in such a way that every jurisdiction has an expert. sometimes you have to piggyback on somebody else's expertise while you learn, but
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there's no reason that every jurisdiction can't have an expert in gravanis and that's going to come in handy when he's talking to city hall people about allocation of resources, to his department about allocation of resources, when he decides how he's going to set up his program, when he decides how he's going to set up his investigations and how he's going to take them to court. there are experts in here, i know, and i know they know if you have that kind of knowledge and you can confront these guys, a lot of guys will confess because they are just so blown away by the amount of knowledge you have. again, they underestimate us. so with the limited time i have, i'm going to present part of the foundation of my expertise that i present in my 8 hour class. if i only have limited time i like to put this out because this allows civilians, it allows officers to understand there are differences in the gravanis culture and you have to understand these differences and be able to articulate them
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in court if you are going to get prosecution. and by having these trainings that are consistent, it also helps clear up misinformation that's widely reported in the media which can really hurt you in court. for example, this article came out november 2012, there's a homicide in a church in the los angeles area. big, big story because two church members contacted a subject who was, quote, tagging doing gravanis on the church. a subject emerged from a near b*if vehicle, shot and killed one church goer and wounded the other one. big, bold letters it read things like various newspapers read the same thing, taggers shoot two church goers. tagging suspect shoots church goers. but when you go into the article and read the whole account of the incident, it's
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reported these are gang members and these are gangsters putting up gang gravanis. but when people read this stuff in the paper, that's where they are getting their input. they have never had any training and it starts to blur the line. what's a tagger, are they all gangsters, do gangsters tag, and sometimes the jury is going to have that in your head when they listen to your case so you need to clear that up so they know exactly where you are coming from when you are doing a case. so over the years we developed 5 types of gravanis. now there are a lot of ways to categorize gravanis. you might be looking historically and looking at old school new school stuff, geographically, east coast versus west coast stuff, but this is easy to articulate in court and we can explain
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exactly what we've got and what we haven't got. we're going to talk about each one of these individually. you've got communicative, you've got hate, you got gang, tagger, art's in there and then i used to just kind of glass off this one called anomaly. i don't consider it one of the five major forms of gravanis for prosecution but it's important that it's there because it allows you to classify all gravanis in one way or another. >> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an
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earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you
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do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's
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least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we
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are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably
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have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there
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anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in
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for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally
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independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for good evening, e name is my name namely kelly good on the city of mississauga city and county of san
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francisco. >> [applause] >> thank you my fan club fan club there and about. but welcome to the city of san francisco and welcome to usf. today we are gathered here as beneficiaries of the civil rights movement. to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. i am proud to stand before you as the first african-american, first woman city administrator. >> [applause] >>thank you. i i am grateful to be inspired and mentored by many great civil rights leaders and my educational leaders which includes usf law school. >> [applause] >> and my family members who have mentored me and have paved the way for me along my career path. i could not have gotten there without them. my greatest
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inspirations are my parents william little and maria little, and i my greatest inspirations are my parents william little and maria little, and i want to talk about howthey were inspired by the march on washington and dr. king's speech which subsequently has passed on to me. my mother was among the 200,000 people who joined dr. martin they were inspired by the march on washington and dr. king's speech which subsequently has passed on to me. my mother was among the 200,000 people who joined dr. martin luther king on the march on washington 50 years ago and stood up for the rights for freedom.as a teenager growing up in washington as a teenager growing up in washington dc, she and her church did people demonstrations leading up to the march in washington where they would go in front of the white house. you have to remember, the time. this was the time they would go there and racial epithets were thrown at them and people would come up and spit on them and they had to practice turning the other cheek. a very very scary time.but both of my parents, made me fully aware of the importance of that speech and importance of education and but both of my parents, made me fully aware of the importance of that speech and importance of education and the future of black america. as the first woman's and african-american city administrator i bow to do the best job i can possibly do
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for the city as i've done from as the first woman's and african-american city administrator i bow to do the best job i can possibly do for the city as i've done from the outset of my career.i will continue i will continue to draw on the inspiration and guidance from my parents and the civil rights leader in my educational leaderin our history and culture and the relentless fight against in our history and culture and the relentless fight against prejudice and intolerance, and hate. there consummate energy intelligence and courage and their unshakable persistence consummate energy intelligence and courage and their unshakable persistence unflinching sacrifice and unwavering faith.we all know the we all know the fight is not over yet.i will keep fighting when i called the three jays, jobs, justice and jubilee in my capacity as a public service. i will continue to ensure equal opportunity for all to compete in the public competitive contracting process. we will continue to fight for local jobs for those who can need jobs. we will continue to fight for justice for people who will serve despite their ethnic background, religion, economic immigration status and their government and their policies and process. as for jubilee,it gives me such joy that we just
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recently celebrated this historical victory of the same-sex marriages in san francisco is the first county clerks office in this state to say open california to perform ceremonies for same-sex couples during our pride weekend. >> [applause] >> we can continue to celebrate these historical events diverse cultures inheritances that make san francisco unique. 50 years ago dr. king i have a dream speech inspired and changed many lives. we as beneficiaries, of his legacy and of the civil right movement can keep his dream alive if we do all we can and all are shared by keeping fighting for social justice and equality for our generation and the next generation. thank you and welcome. >> [applause] >> don't say it. i've known her
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for a long time but i will say for how long. only her and her father no. she's beautiful. she turned out just wonderful. great job, dad. thank you naomi. a couple acknowledgments. i want to several members of the city family were here this evening. we want to acknowledge them on the human rights commission, and that wave your hand. thank you. >> [applause] >> michael sweet the commission chair, human rights commission. thank you >> [applause] >> and this this lady sitting next to me years on the police commission and i was her vice president a couple times. she
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was the director of human rights commission, theresa sparks. >> [applause] >> dir. of the southeast community facility where is he? there he is. >> [applause] >> i think i don't know where rhonda is where is rhonda? ishii requested i will save him to the end. he's either first or last. i have got to say this lady right here san francisco robin swick is with us this evening. >> [applause] >> and when i say this name people stand wave and we all know who the former it's hard to say farmer, mayor willie brown. >> [applause]
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>> i have been around the university for a long time. too long. what has been too long but it's been a long time. i can of course number the events of the civil rights movement. i was actually on this campus the day dr. king died and we all cried. you know, in those days all was on university were trying to do our thing. if we wanted to do we could do the big things we did our little things. on this campus i was the first chair of the psu. in many ways oh well. >> [applause] >>
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