she won the lottery she'd been living from her daughter she doesn't get along with and i was evicted myself i'm not saying this senate well intended but we need to do other things to make it harder to evict people under the ellis act but we need supply. we're meeting not increasing the supply. when he was evicted for example, it was a very unfair situation. the developer it would the ellis act he was 0 going getting rid of everyone in the believe to go get more money. i had 89 evict noticed and he wrought a developer to one of

the hearings and i knew i had to go because i was fidgeting the developers money. but should i have beenable, you know, to go ahead of everybody that had been waiting for years were not that those people aren't suffering. and from the other people who are being evicted as henry explained to you but what the author of to legislation wanted this instead; right? >> and that's what you approved instead of approving up to 56 units two there the supply of housing like henry was arguing for you to do at the location

near these ellis act evictions. t nc times to blt build is a methodists want it. people within the methodist church are trying to found out how those decisions are made but you essentially foreclosed that. we have to use every opportunity and i'm certainly in the neighborhoods like this not necessarily in the tenderloin and marketed south of that. thank you >> pardon me. i'm the executive director of the collaborative. i do agree with staff and the shoppers of this legislation this is a crisis for the folks who get ellis notices it's

difficult to defend. it's an initiative that doesn't broadly to out the people on the waiting list. i wanted to highlight how necessary those folks ellis vooeks evicted people node this. and role they've been target this population. thank you >> is there additional public comment. okay public comment is closed and commissioner antonini >> actually commissioner wu was up first. >> you're right commissioner wu. i agree >> i think this is a good one. as to the question to the 3

amendments. i would support the 6 year period on the first amendment. i think that affordable housing development as all development is difficult and so sometimes there's not that many opportunities to apply for it if you don't catch the koiblg i think the 6 years is the right amount of time. as to the second suggestion by staff are i think that there are more opportunities than just the inclusionary program. the inclusionary program allows for the people within a larger building but there's all the housing that nonprofit builders build and that doesn't have a centralizeed system. there are more ellis eviction

folks who can get housing. i think the inclusionary program i think it's important to try to think through this. i did want to ask it's not that anyone who is ellis can jump the wait list. you can only get the preference when a certainty entity is accepting applications; is that correct. you can't apply to housing without being notified >> i'm with the housing and community development. i think you're correct. there are a couple of instances we're talking about hero. the inclusionary units low market rates each separate project will have a separate lottery and a separate list a

created for the affordable housing there's a separate lottery for each now lease up. and there's a fairly well put together system for the new of new buildings, however, for the rerentals of the one hundred percent affordable buildings the system is not as sophisticated. not that we don't want the system to be more organized i think it was more organized it would be easier for all individuals to have access to that building. as it stand now we have a certificate program for the replaceme replacement folks. we have that for our

inclusionary ownership and the new lease ups for one hundred percent rerentals. they're a little bit harder to track so i wouldn't be able to say that we wouldn't like to help folks but it may be that the desolation of this program any desensitive cities those projects. usually every project has a separate list >> thank you. i think that goes to say it would be difficult to regulate a cap. this is a toward pieces of legislation to allow people to have a preference at the time the plagues are being submitted. open the third recommendations

by staff i think a 3 year review is a great idea but not necessarily the sunset >> commissioner antonini >> yeah. i have a few yes, sir. for staff. the first question i realize this wouldn't employ to someone who's displaced because of nuisance or a breach of lease but you how about the renter leaves with the negotiated settlement without the use of the aisles e ellis act. the owner says i'm going out of the rental act and he never has to invoke the ellis bylaw act because he pays the tenant

money. >> i'm with the planning staff. the preference mridz when the notice of intent to ellis it filed. so whatever happens after that, the preference starts before when the process starts and perhaps it would be helpful if ms. will from the rent board explains the process there's two no's that are fidelity but the perch starts with the first notice >> that's good to how far. >> indian is the legislation wouldn't apply to buyist because the preference kicks in with the landlord files a notice of intent to wraut withdraw from the market and that's the official ellis pressure and they file a notice with the tenancies

of the office. but with the bow out the landlord approaches the tenant and offers money and they won't have to file with our office and the tenant takes the money and runs. and this legislation didn't apply to those paents tenants it's difficult for us to track those. it so you would their private agreement and if those people are included your double dipping because you've been cut a you sum of money and you'd be eligible for the relocation for the housing

>> those are not as high for the market but they're separate agreements fairly entered into. >> and my question along the lines if you have a hybrid that some of the tenants in the building agree to this and they've begun and taken the money and agent tenant won't so the ellis act is revoked. you mined is it would not >> thank you that makes sense. and i'm sure there's a means test. there are many folks in rental housing that are making substantial amounts of money they go outside of san francisco and buy homes. this is someone who would be

eligible for the avon our normal income test >> you're correct commissioner they have to satisfy all the inadmissible application rules. thanks that makes sense. and small business talked about rent control but this could apply to any housing. if a person had a house built over 1978 and they could still ellis act it would city apply >> it won't have to they could still - they have other remedies. >> actually, the new eviction doesn't apply to new construction none of our law. >> this wouldn't apply to federally controlled housing

this is optional for the city of san francisco. >> it wouldn't apply to section 8 but individually to individual basis is subject to the ordinance. >> thank you very much. i think i'm in favor of that. i might have mentions this is on a if you discussions ago i said the city should be give-up did preferences to people who have been evicted under the ellis act situation. so far as the time period the 23 to 6 years i favor 3 years with the caveat if you're subject to the ellis eviction you have to state our tension to get into the system to obtain housing

have to get in the list in the could you. it is stated accurately that we don't know how soon this should be coming up but we 140u7b9 imperative folks 6 years to take vandal of the situation that displays others who have been in line but i think that years would be more than enough time for an individual to make a declaration of wanting to be part of the system. i'm not sure in that's part of the legislation or actually obtaining the affordable housing or stating our intention for affordable housing. >> i'm from mo h t d. it's true that the legislation

does not address the time limit haiti at which the applicant nodes to apply for the modification the 6 year period prices to the time in which an eligible applicant can submit their paperwork for the affordable housing. in a comparable program is certify program we current administer open on behalf of the displaced folks there's no time limit for the people applying for a certificate. nike do believe we will not set up an internal rolls of pressure like 5 years or 6 years out but that will be addressed by another agency.

>> well, i, understand that i know your other preference situation is people who were displaced from generally, the western acquisition but that was the 60s and you're dealing with a small pool almost all of them have long since relocated so that's why the number of people who take vague is very, very small but this is a current situation. i think that someone is being evicted because of an ellis thing they should know early if they're to take advantage and i think that years is enough time if i'm reading the legislation correctly. urging to relocation smoefrl or you're going to get into the program.

they've got to make a decision sooner 6 years. thank you very much so that's my feeling on the 3 and 6 deal. and it maybe hard to track in theory where the 20 percent as one speaker brought up there's a lot of other folks that have been in the system for a a long time and try to keep this to 20 percent what timeframe we are going to use i don't know maybe within a given year it has to be no more than 20 percent of those applications from the ellis act. and the other thing no sunset or no look back is okay >> commissioner borden.

>> i remember we heard there are preferences for people from the base point and there's more section 8 things that may be different but i want to understand the wait list how it works and there was a reference 17 people moved forward and i want to understand that process a little bit more. >> yeah. let me clarify. so the members that you were given that 3 thousand 48 is a combined total of 17 lotteries >> so each project has it's on lottery.

>> yes. (laughter). >> so for example, for ownership units when there are fewer applicants we might have ownership units that are if available maybe we have more applicants. we had 4 hundred and 60 something applicants >> are you the person that oversees each individual lottery or does the project sponsor themselves have the lottery. >> it depends upon for our inclusionary below market projects the mayor's office oversees these lotteries and for the one hundred percent rental units the project sponsors oversee those lotteries. >> i've been concerned about the marketing i saw the new

projects on market. i'm concerned bmw how people get the information if you're on - how do you get the information for the lotteries to register for >> all the inclusionary projects the project sponsors have to submit a marketing plan it's approved by our office as part of the closings of the deal so to speak. those market requirements include san bernardino information in all languages a number of the marketing cigarettes. our office has our own e-mail distribution list be probably 10 or 11 thousand members. >> the mayor's office of housing

doesn't have that list. >> we actually have those lists. sometimes those people asked to be on the list >> i mean separate and apart from this legislation i think there's a mediate for the office to mistake this more superficial listed. all the details i'm concerned we're not able to adequately track to help the people who need help. i think we should add a creation of a central listed way to track people and you could send out the lottery in realtime how many

units you have and people not knowing about the lottery and the particular projects seems accidental. that's what i find confusing. only 17 people exercised the preference what is meant by that thought people that were certify holder and you notify all of them? >> we currently have a list of 6 hundred individuals plus many people live outside the state they were displaced 40 or 50 years ago, however, they want to be left open the list. most often we don't get 10 or 12 individuals applying.

we've had some opts in the western edition and most of those people are elderly and they only want to return for a specific reason >> that's interesting people have been on the list for 50 years. >> even now we're receiving applications from people that were maybe 2 years old when we were displays in 1971 and there's a affordable housing opportunity you coming up. >> they've not been sit on the list for 50 years but have been actively looking at. >> we ask them if they want to stay on the list. >> that's another subject maybe we'll talk about at another

time. so if we put this in place i want to talk to the rent board are you going to update the list i know you said there is a filing that the landlord have an intent will there be a bulletin >> when the landlord has an file for getting out of the rental business we have a list how to get on the list. >> that's how people get a list. >> when the landlord file a permit to withdraw they get a packet. >> that's another question we had an earthquake and buildings were destroyed when the housing

it rebuilt is that considered rent control. >> that's to be considered it could be covered if the structure is completely demolished it would be rebuilt from new construction and exempt from 9 rental control. >> people weren't scared before. >> in the earthquake we lose a lot of our retrofitting ordinances. we have provisions if a building were partial demolished there's a pressure with the landlord s can file an exception where they spent 75 percent of the costs itself idea is to bring unit back on the market but not under

rent control >> wow. that's sobering. i can't imagine this is in place so it up for your time. i'm supportive of the legislation i think it makes sense. most of those ellis evictions people are given a year; is that correct? for ellis act how much time are people allocated >> it's a year for elderly and disabled. >> and so what's the time. >> only 60 days. actually one hundred and 20 and unless there's an extension from

the elderly >> good questions commissioner borden. i think it starts to possess more questions. commissioner hillis >> i support the ordinance in the recommendations just a couple questions for mr. chewing. the population when with your building new affordable housing for the affordable housing we've built where are people living now are you - have you studied where people are living now? >> no, we have not done any formal studies. we do have the requirement that for them to be role competitive they've got to live in san

francisco many of them do and depending upon their income and staying are relatives some days they're living with those. sometimes, we have applicant that are living in shelters at the time their applying. oftentimes they're living in overcrowded quarters so their sharing houses with families that are in homes too small and maybe there are two many kids in the unit over time >> i got a little bit convulsed over the timeline. you get a notice from the landlord this skurdz for - you have 6 years where you have this preference sthashl. >> not preference would be valid

from the momentum that you received the notice from the london of the intent to remove the unit to 6 years after you receive that notice to 6 years of application. >> that makes sense. and why not o m i evocation if people are in their unit for 10 years i think that o m i was the issue we were dealing with 10 years ago why not when they've been displaced? >> again according to the recent budget analyst report he know that ellis evictions are the highest increase in evictions over the 10 years and also based on the budget analyst report that more than 40 percent of the lsds are folks that are

citizens and folks of lower income are impacted. so we're responding to an intense growing need that's impacting a population that vulnerable. the legislation is targeted in who we want to assist. again, it's a problem that's not only in our district but all throughout the city. you could make an argument we could include other types of evictions but we're trying to target the folks who are the most vulnerable. we understand there's limited supply of affordable housing that the city manages that subsidies and controls. we're trying to target the folk who need the affordable housing