some real research and move forward on some additional security training that we would love to make requirement via the police department and the entertain a commission together putting a curriculum together and requiring additional security training that is about local issues. maybe we would do it annually, and maybe there's something to suggest that would keep people fresh to the situations we see, but we are looking forward to that. there is models in seattle and other cities that we are going to use. i think it is really important. supervisor mirkarimi: i definitely see the opportunity here as this legislation takes advantage and hones in on that particular element of requiring the clubs and security guards themselves to be held to slightly higher standard, i think, through whatever training protocol that we can compel if,

for lack of a better phrase. i agree. thank you. supervisor chiu: thank you. let me ask commander crenshaw if you have anything you like to add to this report. >> thank you very much for having me appear. i am very confident that moving forward, we will be able to work something out with the commission. i know in the past, there has been some difficulty seeing eye to eye on several issues. one, the violence that takes place. seems like almost weekly at some of these clubs. but what i propose as part of our task force number one, is security plans that will be required for all clubs. next, i want trained security staff, and that will be trained through a combined effort of essentially the police

department and the industry professionals. i would like to see video at all clubs here 300 pages or more at the entrance and exterior. i know there's a document involved in that, and i think that would go forward roughly about $500. that seems a nominal fee that could bring about us being able to report, and also could lead to dismiss it -- diminishment of individuals that may see themselves on video or their likeness is reported that would tend to make them shy away. i think we would like to see the installation of our readers, but once again, just a review. it is very difficult for us to do the job that we have been

required in the past. the department has been through several constraints. roughly now, we spent more than $10,000 a week and on policing clubs, so you can basically asked what it costs annually. they need to be some type of community or business tax or fee added to, like, the broadway district, south of market district that could go to support our enforcement efforts. it is difficult, given the weakened in the broadway quarter, i may have as many as 20 or 25 officers without any cost recovery at all. there is no cost recovery. perhaps make 30,000, $40,000, $50,000, and they do not pay a dime. we need cost to cover to make things work.

i've been working with bob davis, and jocelyn kane has been very positive. the review in and of itself of all of those clubs, as of the certain date, we need to have them in compliance with those factors i just mentioned, i think that would bring about a major change to the industry. supervisor chiu: colleagues, any questions? >> [inaudible] supervisor mirkarimi: on a cost recovery. >> we have done several venues from philadelphia to new york, los vegas -- las vegas, and i would like to bring kind of a best practices. i just got back from austin

texas, and that is one of the vehicles they use. supervisor mirkarimi: considering my gathering would welcome a discussion like this, is that considering cost over time and the amount of resources -- >> those are conservative numbers. we may spend as much as $600,000 or $700,000 annually policing the club's considering that once we make an arrest, also having to police the club, transportation to the jail, hospitalization for anyone that is injured. it could be a couple of million dollars if you want to get back -- get down to the facts. >>supervisor mirkarimi: in whica look forward to that in the future so we can have a more focused conversation. supervisor chiu: i think he could get to the public safety commission those data points you just provided, and i would like

to have a conversation with use -- with you about what those costs are of the requirements of the city of having a police presence, because i have heard this from many police captain said the strains on the system of certain entertainment corridors is really having an impact on our budget alone, not just referring to the public safety matters. supervisor elsbernd: on that point, i think we should also take a look at supervisor avalos' alcohol mitigation fee because some of the costs i'm hearing discussed here could be overlap, the nature we're clear on what is covered and what is not. supervisor chiu: appreciate that. let me ask if there are any members of the public that wish to speak on this item, four, having to do with the entertainment commission's data that they provided today? yes, and if we could have all speakers -- mr. allen, if you would like to step up. if speakers could limit their

comments to up to two minutes, that would be appreciated. >> thank you. i'm speaking to you today as a citizen, and i think it is important for this discussion to recall something that happened about two years ago, and i'm following up on the most recent comment this morning regarding cost recovery, police services. i will refer to the 11th street corridor and program that was initiated by the venues on 11th street, approximately two years ago. that program was extraordinarily successful, and it involved both taxing the venues, the residents, and the other businesses that were in that corridor. it was a completely voluntary program, and it was in response to what the residents were seeing as a response -- a spike in activity that could lead to

violence. this is prior to this extraordinary week we have made as a society from fighting with our fists to fighting with guns -- this extraordinary leap we have made as a society. the success of the program i want to underscore primarily because it came from the buy and -- in of not only the police of poorman but also the merchants and residents of the neighborhood. and very happy to report that our relationship as a result of the stepping forward of commander crenshaw has been much improved, and i think looking back at the 11th street program and looking forward at how we might use those lessons learned in those more aggressive moment in time would be very helpful. i also want to caution us that many of these districts are already starting up in a variety

of ways. i know there is a fledgling corporation, so i think there are some leverage points that could be brought to the table, it would not seem like a huge in position on the industry. supervisor chiu: thank you. are there any other comments from members of the public on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. further discussion or final comments from the entertainment commission? >> i just want to thank you. i realize that this has been an epicenter of concern within your district, but of course, citywide, in that there has been a number of very -- varied perspectives as to how we move forward, and some of them are somewhat contrarian with each other, so i'm glad we are able to focus on the next steps with

a certain amount of clarity and be able to marshal, i think, the key stakeholders in this discussion and how the city is to help remedy what has been troubling and challenging, so i think this legislation helps us get to that next place. supervisor chiu: thank you. what look to talk about the legislation -- the item has already been called -- remember that last year we passed legislation to expand the authority of the edgerton commission with regard to suspensions, and i think many of us had hoped that that would be sufficient to provide the city with enough tools to deal with the problematic clubs we're talking about, and i want to reiterate, that was made. there are many clubs that do not have a record of violence, and i think it is important to recognize that. while we're trying to tackle the problematic clubs and deal with that situation. after we pass the legislation last year, we have still continue to see on almost a

monthly basis incidents of violence, homicides, etc. for example, fairly soon after we pass the legislation in my district, there were eight people that were shocked outside of that club. shortly after that, there was infamous club swayed incidents where there were 44 shots fired for people injured, one person who was killed, and that had evolved a club where there had been able to-year history of violence that had not been addressed. shortly after that, i think it had been two weeks later, there was another shooting that started in the parking lot outside the club, and after that, we have seen violence at el rincon. there have been other situations south of market. which leads us to where we are right now. when the entertainment commission was looking into clubs way, the deputy city

attorney who was advising them told them that they did not have the powers to permanently revoke the license that club swayed had -- club swayed had, and it took hundreds of attorneys to bring a lawsuit to shut the club down, which i thought was appropriate, but i thought many of us believe was appropriate for the injured to a commission or whatever body is responsible for providing permits to be able to take this permits away, said the legislation that i have drafted helps to remedy this situation by adding two additional grounds for the revocation of place of entertainment permits, extended our permits, and onetime event permits. the first is a public safety ground where the operation of the firm poses a substantial risk of harm or injury to individuals. the second round for revocation would be if a public nuisance was being created where the permitee's persistent action or

inaction was continuing to cause serious problems that amounted to a public nuisance. this ordinance does not restrict the entertainment commission's suspension options nor require revocation in any particular instance. it simply provides another enforcement tool in compelling cases, and for these types of permit revocations, permitees would be ineligible to apply for year. i want to thank both the entertainment commission as well as other industry organizations for their support in is because everyone from law enforcement and neighborhood groups to the entertainment industry understand that it is important for the city to have revocation tools at its disposal. not to say that they will always be used, but to give them an option in certain more difficult cases to be the right thing. i would like to ask ms. kane if you have any comments on this from the perspective of the entertainment commission. i know you provided a letter of support earlier, but if you have any additional comments you would like to make. >> i do not have much i wanted

to communicate what happened. you came to not one but two entertainment commission hearings to speak to this, so i think the commission that a full year and had the opportunity to show some questions if they had some concerns were needed right now was well said. overall, again, the entertainment commission is certainly supportive, and we are going to try our hardest to not get into a situation where we need to use something like this, and try to mediate, educate, do everything we can, use the suspension tools that are, frankly, really easy for us to use right now in the short term before we get to this point, but overall, for the record, the entertainment commission is absolutely in support. supervisor chiu: thank you very much. wide open it up to public comment, unless, collets, you

have additional comments you would like to make -- why don't we open it up to public comment? i do have a couple of speaker cards. if you could line up in the center aisle, and madam clerk, if he could set the timer to two minutes per speaker. >> good morning. i'm current president of russia hill neighbors, and russian hill neighbors is a voice of over 700 residents and merchants who tried a preserve and maintain advanced neighborhood character and quality life through collaboration, volunteerism, and celebration of community. obviously, this is a hot button for us. we believe in what has been

presented. we would like it to go through, and speak as a layperson, and that is what i do best, so we are going to read a couple of things. we want community policing. two of our board members sit on the community advisory board for northern and central stations, and we have seen the results of community policing and having other resources help the sfpd. they are awesome, but when we get collect ideas together, we act on them. it is like a family, and i can only equated to when i was raising a family, especially teenagers. they did not police themselves terribly well, but they policed each other. it made my job easier, and they were very willing to perfect each other's shortcomings, and they busted each other all the time. made my job easy. it was win-win. i looked like a model parent.

inclusion works. i think giving more power to the people, the entertainment commission is good. sfpd -- they always follow through. let the entertainment commission police their own. let everyone do their jobs. in power them. it works. -- empower them. it works. >> good morning president chiu and esteemed members of the public safety committee. i'm vice-president of the california music association commission, a nonprofit association of a new orders, operators. a new orders, operators industry professionals, artists and fans dedicated to the preservation and in richmond of a state and fiber using culture committee. i'm also a co-founder of vintage

415. we own and operate five venues in san francisco. and here today to express support for this proposed legislation to expand the entertainment commission's authority to revoke permits a problem venues. thank you for introducing this very important legislation. the incidents of random violence outside or near san francisco's nightclubs are senseless and tragic. we must all pause and reflect on the cause of the consequence and violence with a fatal incident happens in our city. unfortunately, the 24-hour news cycle takes over and the time for reflection is replaced with a rush to judgment and finger- pointing. one of the elements that gets lost in the media storm is the vital role in that light plays in shaping our cultural landscape, local economy, and community conscience. unfortunately, a few bad apples venues have the ability to demonstrate but a failure to maintain adequate security measures and an unwillingness to work with the city to address possible problems before they occur, the astonishing the

industry, which overwhelmingly employees responsible business practices and supports safe nightlife. in the meantime, cmac is taking great steps to foster a community of corporation. by working together, we believe we can address the security issues surrounding the bottle nightlife economy, while remembering, as supervisor dufty articulated at the recent night life safety summit, clubs do not create a youth gun violence. society creates youth gun violence. as entertainment and music representatives, cmac is committed to crisis conflict management for security and personnel. again, we encourage the public safety committee and board of supervisors to approve and enact this legislation. thank you very much, committee members, for your time. thank you. >> good morning, supervisors once again.

the first time i will speak this morning as with my entertainment commission had on and say that i appreciate president chiu's time at the commission to engage in a spirited discussion back and forth about how this legislation will work, what the parameters are, and what your expectations are now as this legislation moves forward, so thank you for that spirited discussion and a spirited out of -- the spirit of moving forward that came out of it. secondly, i put on my old man had, who has been sitting for the past 15 years watching a variety of things change within the entertainment community, and i want to remind everyone in this room at the entertainment commission inherited the laws that it is operating under from the police debarment, and the power to revoke permits is -- the police department, and the

power to revoke permits is coming in the case of extraordinary circumstances, and i view this as an extraordinary responsibility the entertainment commission is going to take on and respond to extraordinary circumstances. it was never necessary in the history of san francisco for the permit granting body to revoke for these conditions and entertainment permit, so i look forward to the entertainment commission, as our previous speaker said, being able to muster and rally the members of the entertainment community together so that they can act to better police their members and that we can weed out those couple of bad apples, which are, frankly, making everyone straw miserable and ruining, in a lot of people's eyes, the beauty and grace of the city. thank you. >> good morning, supervisors. i'm executive director of the fisherman's wharf community benefit district. i would like to thank president chiu for all the work you have done on this initiative.

we are in support of the amendments you are adding or proposing today. our district has many businesses that have entertainment licenses that run safe and effective businesses that allow people to have a great time when they are in san francisco, but we experienced firsthand over many years what happened with club suede and how numerous complaints and numerous filing of complaints happen, and yet, nothing was able to be done because of the restrictive way the entertainment commission's abilities were to act on it. it required us after the fatal shooting in february to pull together our communities, our neighborhoods, pulled together over 1000 signatures to as for the club to be permanently closed. also, our local businesses wrote letters and presented them to the entertainment commission. but as supervisor chiu mentioned earlier, it took the city attorney, which we are grateful for, to have to file a nuisance

lawsuit to finally get to the point where we might be able to permanently close the club that has been causing problems for quite some time. the resources that went into that, not only from the community, from the city, the police department, the entertainment commission, were unbelievable. these new amendments you are looking to add would actually help so that this type of situation would not have to happen again. so we would have -- we do appreciate the work you're doing on this, and we are in support of this. thank you so much. supervisor chiu: thank you. next speaker please. >> good morning. i am a resident of the corridor area. i'm speaking at a private citizen, but i am a member of the central police district community advisory report, and among the entertainments of committee -- i'm also a member of the entertainment sub commission of the community

advisory board. i would like to focus my remarks on the broadway corridor for two reasons. one, that is where i live, and second, i believe it is a unique case. some of the examples quoted by speakers today are very clear- cut cases. when something happens in the vicinity of a singular club, it is fairly easy to figure who to talk to about getting something fixed. in the broadway area, the situation is totally different. in the four by five-block area, there are over 200 alcoholic beverage consumption licenses. many of those are fine restaurants and good saloons that we all enjoy, but over 40 of those menus in this small area have entertainment permit, and that is where the problem lies. there is nothing intrinsically wrong with an entertainment permit or in a club, but when

you have the possibility of 40 of them doing that, then you have a real problem, and the police cannot deal with it. i think commander crenshaw has basically outlined that. the numbers are too large. on a typical friday or saturday night, you'll get 2000 or 3000 or more people released into the streets at 2:00 a.m. filled with alcohol and looking to keep the good time going. he mentioned something like having to doesn't, and it is not enough, and the cost is being borne by the public, which is not acceptable. i'm very encouraged by the legislation you are proposing and also by the positive response to it, and i wish you every success. i hope that it will be enforced on a regular basis. thank you. supervisor chiu: thank you very much. next speaker.

>> i know when you have people speak, you like to have them speak on the particular item that you just made reference to, but i'm asking you to make an exception to that rule on the grounds that i want to speak about item three pertaining to the families -- supervisor chiu: i'm sorry, unfortunately, we already had public comment on that, and we do not allow public comment on a particular item -- >> you cannot do that? supervisor chiu: thank you very much for speaking. are there any other members of the public that wish to speak on item 5? >> good morning, supervisors. i'm here to speak in favor of the legislation. it is long overdue. but i think this should be the entertainment commission's last opportunity to be on the forefront of and forcing problems that are occurring in the entertainment industry.

i guess tenderloin residents are fortunate that you are having problems in other clubs in districts 1 and two, so now there is this legislation. thank you. get our handle around the situation. they have repeatedly said that they need additional powers to do their job objectively. this is equal to the entertainment commission and it is my hope and desire that these tools, alongside suspension

hours from last year, will help to ameliorate the problem. i know that the mayor and others, including myself, have proposed longer-term reforms if we are not able to address the situation but i would like to see this legislation move forward, using these powers to deal with the bad apples referred to. hopefully once that is out of the batch we will be in a much better place. if we could move this item with a recommendation to the full board? thank you. let's move to item 6, madam clerk. >> item #6, ordinance amending the san francisco administrative code by amending section 2a.25 and by amending and renumbering section 10.100-170, all to transfer responsibility for providing crime laboratory services from the police department to the city administrator, and setting an operative date.

supervisor chiu: this item was brought to us by our vice chair. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. good morning. we had a very thorough hearing on the implosion at the crime lab several months ago. obviously this is painful and embarrassing to the city of san francisco with regards to the hundreds, if not thousands of cases that may have been compromised due to the malfeasance and what sounds like criminal neglect of one technician that has caused grave consequences about the integrity and in their ability of the crime lab.