movement as well at the district level. i'm sorry, at the police district station level. commissioner mendoza: without calling anybody out, is there anything we can do to support -- you ha >> i think it would be great if we could bring the department of dph, the ta, the officer with us, you get five district stations and they establish is something they ask about for the next few meetings. i think that would be a good -- commissioner mendoza: the only thing i am apprehensive about is that we don't know what schools

are going, and we can certainly say that this is something that we have got to deliver on, but we won't be able to say, yes, you're going to have three schools in your police district. >> and maybe there is a communication that we can have a select committee involve the captains as well. and you have another officer or -- excuse me. i didn't mean to call you off. >> it's ok. this is a good coincidence that happens today, because i met with diana from the superintendent's office. what we did for about an hour and a half, all of the schools are laid out on this map, and we discussed exactly what you're

talking about. basically, there are certain programs that are only in certain schools. so children from all different areas have to attend those schools specifically. i brought with me, today when we met, a task force expert, and we sat down with them and looked at where the schools are, how they are laid out, and we discussed whether we're going to support direct busing or whether muni could handle the issue. we brought the problem lines, the problem intersections. we looked at the map, and she said, can we move these kids to this school? without using specifics, i said no, that will have to be a direct route because it is a gang area.

and those kids, that would put them in harm's way. we ended the meeting at -- and we basically took copies of the maps, looked at the different schools, and for the most part, it will be the middle schools that will be an issue. we have our own work, we're going to look at the schools where there are specific programs. we will determine what kids will be going to those schools, and they're going ask us, which way do we do this? do we do direct buses using the school district, or will muni work? it is a coincidence that it was already in the works this morning. i know we are scheduled again to meet on august 10. the inspector or the sergeant

brought copies back to the task force where, as you know, it is kind of split into the different gangs specialties. the respective team leaders will look at the information, look at the schools, where they're going to be moved, and what type of police presence do we need to ensure the safety of the kids. >> as you're saying, the timing is perfect. what you're talking about is the conversation that started around the student process. as it gets more of the policy work, we want to make sure that we incorporate the police department and the various agencies to make sure that we are making progress on safety for our kids. i appreciate that piece because it is a really important

component because the transportation cuts we're going to be experiencing as well as the way in which the students process will unfold. you have actually helped us to recognize where we should draw the boundaries which is a really important piece. i am hoping you will translate what you have done their with this particular program, because it is a little different than what you're doing on the student assignment peace. it seems to me that the role of the san francisco police department is more around the enforcement and making sure that they are supporting the efforts of the safe routes. looking at what is happening here, utilizing speed radar and those types of things, it is a little bit different from the

student assignment peace. i am hoping that your conversation this morning translates into more support on the safe routes program. >> i am pretty confident it will. i also where another hat. i am a san francisco police officer assigned with working with the mta. we identified them as the specific team or what they do is they go to the problem line, where the kids congregate before and after school, and they ride the buses. it is the -- mtap is the muni transportation assistance program. >> these are all the multiple layers that are different programs but i think fold into one another. we would love to hear from them.

>> i want to bring you up after because i have some use commissioners here, and i always get worried. ok. commissioner mendoza: in hearing your conversation, i get your working with individuals, but as you must know, we have a student assignment redesign that has been going on for quite some time. howell line are you in that conversation? >> personally, our program has not been aligned with that conversation at all. we just know that the policy went into effect in march. and this might be an opportunity for promoting that. commissioner mendoza: there are opportunities to figure out how we can align that program.

we definitely have some differences in how we have done this work and come to a decision of what we're going to do with student reassignment. and definitely, if he could possibly share some information with you, he is our representative. the conversation can begin because there would be some kind of talk. >> that afternoon, board of supervisors and commissioners. as deputy chief murphy said, i am the manager of ammuni tra -- the muni transit assistance program.

we work with many places. we also work at a number of junior high schools that covers everything to marina to francisco and other schools that have been developed. luther-burbank has a charter school there. we have been working around mission high school on to sixteenth street. it is a transfer point for a lot of kids going to some of the other schools. we have a mixture of public as well as private school kids that we deal with everyday. it was a pretty quiet summer. we are very grateful for that. we're thankful that deputy chief murphy came along.

they are scattered at the various district offices, so we're working with the various captains and the community relations unit that was established by the chief to make sure that they get out in the community. we have been dealing with hot spots, transfer points that are like 16, twenty fourth street, a geneva, fillmore, chestnut, we have been dealing with 4th and gary, masonic and gary. we are currently riding the 22, the 31, the 6th, and f line when time prevails.

we're trying to get a handle on working together with the school. this is our sixth year in working with the school district. we started a relationship with them in 2004, we began working on a variety of different things including truancy. we will be at the schools this coming year. we will be there to work with the staff as well as the unit assigned to muni. i forgot everybody is not familiar with those phrases. i am available to answer whatever questions. we also work with the kids on treasure island. that is the responsibility of

san francisco to provide transportation to the island and to its residents. we have a number of issues out there, and we have a great work relationship with the director that has worked with us. now that the terminal is going to be close, we're going to be working to get those people over there. as you may not be aware, the 108 is the only line of transportation that is provided by the city. they have one line that transports the people there back-and-forth. we have a number of students from the treasure island that are attending the school district here. they come home in the morning and they get their education. when school is finished, they

are back on the bus which is usually a transfer, and then they go over to treasure island. supervisor dufty: commissioner kim:. -- commissioner kim. commissioner kim: i am looking at a survey that the use commission provided. it says here that 40% of students are most likely to report violence and harassment from other youth. we met yesterday, at and he started to mention -- and you started to mention that some of the lines that you also write. do you ride the buses? >> we monitor the terminal line

at the east bay terminal. if the staff is available and we have time, we ride over on the 1 08. we also have surveillance cameras that have been brought up to par. if there is something going on, we're able to pull up the camera and meet with the staff. that is the other part of the residents that live on that island that is made of halfway houses and people returning back to the system. we do work -- we rely on the southern station to work with us to follow buses when there is a big problem or we noticed a fluctuation of kids going over and doing whatever they're doing. it was captain o'leary, that

might have changed. i know we have been working down there, and deputy chief murphy has done enforcement which has been a big help to us in the school district as well as around the school routes. we seemed to have gotten the full cooperation from all the stations. >> i hear a lot of students say they get harassed on the bus. i'm not sure if the videos catch a lot of that. it is not necessarily a crime, but bullying and harassment. to try to manage that, there is a program where young adults used to ride the buses and provide a level of supervision and conflict mediation. do we have fought every introducing programs like that? >> i wish we could afford the

luxury of having enough staff to be able to ride those coaches. we don't. we have allocated at a couple of staff members to working at the terminal. we also have the task of writing -- riding the t-line. if time is available, we will go ahead and write the 108. most of the time rely on video surveillance and the seven stations. those are the number of officers assigned to treasure island. once we have identified the perpetrator, we work to bring closure. they have a standard policy, and they will not tolerate any type of behavior that is destructive

-- destructive -- disruptive to muni riders or those on treasure island. we are not able to have staff that ride it. terminal monitoring is a full- time job. we have all kinds of stuff going on, smoking , drinking, eating, dropping stuff. -- smoking in line, drinking, eating, dropping stuff. there are people living on that island and we don't think that they should have to bear that kind of attitude. we monitor the line to make sure everybody is on those buses at the time they stood in line.

>> that is good to hear. what can we do to partner with these programs to have their young adults riding with the buses? happily partner with the community response network to kind of bring folks together around the city. there are a lot of leadership programs that are slightly older. how do we work with them? it was a partnership. >> we had the guardian angels right it one time on their own. this is a certain element that we must be very careful about. they have rules and regulations, and everybody has to follow them, including us. when you have people that are wanted through their own thing, so to speak. muni is going to be careful. we don't want to be sued.

you heard deputy chief murphy talking about cross boundary issues, and if this kind of issue happens, we're going to have a problem. the mtap people go through training, a long background check with the police department, and until you can get everybody on board, it is a little risky to ask another group that hasn't been familiar to take on that task. i would like to say that is open for everybody, but it is not. we're very particular about the group at the schools. we require everybody to check in with the school, check in with the officers, and we're all working on the same level. if people not want to do that, i

have to say honestly to you, i don't feel comfortable working around them. he said policies and guidelines for reason. we don't want to just anybody running around a school. saying that they work for muni. >> but we need to figure out how to get around some of these obstacles. if we know that the students don't feel safe going back and forth to school, we have to figure out a way to address this. i don't say that we work with everybody, but we figure out the cooperations we can have to get past it. what can we do to get past the no-answer? a lot of the youth talk about having mentors and adults riding the buses with them to help them feel safer. how can we

>> there are basically 1000 vehicles a day on the street. there are 733,000 riders. for instance, a central station will send me what they're doing in a plainclothes capacity, in a uniform capacity, whether they're running robbery or graffiti, the plans for their individual districts. the police are on the lines and is pretty evident that police are on the lines by the trend we're seeing, the downward trend of violence. i am going to continue it. we also have the inspectors as a group of 46 or 47 additional eyes and ears that do the proof

of payment enforcement. they are also focusing on the most problematic lines. i think things have changed. i know that things have changed in the last seven or eight months. i think this next school year, the kids are definitely going to feel safer on the buses. commissioner kim: that is great here. if we have a lot of lines that are particularly -- >> is the 14, the 38, the 49, and the tl. we have it all broken-down, and it will be between 2:00 in the afternoon until 8:00 at night. those are the peak hours after school. i am looking at the overall scope.

3:00 to 6:00, when you look at each individual station, definitely for central, in the stations that have a high concentration of schools, definitely. commissioner kim: we all gather data. it is good to bring an overlay to have this survey were the greatest number of students reporting issues are in those neighborhoods and having information from sfpd and muni is really helpful. we all have resources about how we can best work together to address the issue. i hear about it so much from students, the safety back-and- forth. >> i think the other part of it

is that the task force team has made many arrests, and that being said, the individuals riding the buses, they don't know who a police officer is. our perceived presence has gone up exponentially. >> i am interested in figuring out what we can do to have -- i don't want to criminalize bullying, for example. i was interested in this idea of having an adult or adults in general -- young adults or adults in general that does not have to derive from that level of enforcement. >> is zero tolerance means that somebody gets the rest of the time. the zero tolerance means that

you address it. don't do that, you got it? we don't cite them every time, but we tell them that you can't stand there and drink the beer. what we started today, we're definitely on the right foot. they basically put their cards on the table and said, who can we send where? it is not exactly redistributed, but certain kids can go to that school. they may not have the program for that child so they have to go to this school. i get that. it is important that we get that part of it straight. supervisor dufty: briefly -- >> the youth themselves

produced a dvd about keeping themselves safe. i think that is something that is going to be coming out to raise awareness of that is going to go a long way. supervisor dufty: i want to welcome the commissioners who are joined by the program and policy coordinator to make a presentation. >> i am yasmine, i go to balboa, and i am 16. >> i currently go to notre dame

univsersity. >> i graduated class of '09, and now i attend sf state. >> can you guys put our power point on the screen please? >> unfortunately, none of us know how to do it. there it is. >> this power point is pretty much -- we made it ourselves, commissioners. it is our solution to distribution of the youth pass lifeline. you might be wondering, what is the fast pass? it would cost $10 a month, and its purpose is to be given to students who qualify.

-why create the fast pass? it would be for the students to have affordable muni access. there are a few main reasons why. >> the first reason why, as you can see on the pie chart, the unified students are strongly dependent on muni. about 70% of the school district students take muni. it is very important for them to have a mode of transportation. the second one is the rising cost of muni. in may, 2009, it was