in the double slide, it seems like the construction there has been about three years as well. are you familiar with that project? >> no, sir, i'm not. >> it appears to be a much easier project than going under all the stuff in the city. >> that is the complexity, doing a subway in a city that has utilities, sewer, water, electric, you name it. there is a whole host of things in this city, and in some cases we have found some of it as we have gone on. we have had to find ways to deal with that, which are far outside the engineering realm when it comes to remains and things of that nature. it is very complex when we are talking about a tunneling job under a major urban city. >> do you have a time frame? >> they are doing samples, but you are always at risk of something that is not there in the drawings or the historical

documentation. there is some risk in terms of crog across something that we didn't plan to. i think we have built in a certain amount of contingency there, and hopefully that is enough to cover it. >> chairman, we are very comfortable with the schedule. i would submit to you that the greater risk is going to be on the time lines of actually constructing the underground stations. the tunneling itself is going to go very smooth. if we hit something like an arc logical find, it will stop us in our tracks until we clear that. >> so the last things that goes in is the tracks? >> we are staging the contract that most of the material can be removed through the tunnel. so there will be subbays and temporary track put if for those contracts.

>> and those projects could go on? there is nothing to preclude that? >> the actual exit is in north beach. >> this contract includes a tunnel bore machine retraction shift. we go all the way to washington square, and that is where we take the machine out. and all we have to do is close the door over it. if we ever decide there is a phase three, it will be able to spring from that. >> when there is a phase three. >> you mean spring from that, building a washington square station? >> anything that is designed. >> director? >> i think you forth greats presentation. it is very helpful to see this all laid out. a couple of service-related questions. the south terminus at king and 4th. does the t lee keep going down the existing line? >> no. it is going to connect both

phases. the terminus would be visitation valley for the t-line. the t-line would continue straight, not make that right-hand turn. >> so someone there chinatown could keep going to what is the current end of the t-line? >> yes. >> and is the current t-line around the embarcadero going to continue as well? >> no. >> so that is the end of that one? >> yes. >> so then my next question is -- and i am sure you guys have thought of this, but my limited exposure to this in my real job suggestion -- suggests any time you go to digging up a gas station, there is a lot of remediation? that is part of it? >> yes. that is in our plan. we have that contingency in our

plan. >> you touched a little on this, about the laying down of temporary track to remove debris. what is the sort of anticipated disruption for the union square area associated with this project, and how much of it can be done underground to avoid strupting what is obviously a commerce center? >> actually, each of the three stations will be excavated differently. mosconi will have the more surface disruption, because it is a cut and cover. we'll bore down and then squa videogate back up. there will be a lot of disruption around that one. our utilities contract that is going to be going out in september will uncover and reroute major utilities, and then place back so that we can restore traffic on a temporary

means. then we are going to mine from there down and then build back up. now the struppings will be mitigated considerably, but there will be some surface disruption to make the final closure and initially to make the utilities opening. the chinatown station is going to be mined completely. we'll bore through and then set up and mine inside. >> so we could probably come back to you with specific time lines in terms of how much disruption at each location, if any. for example, minimal at chinatown, but definitely at union square. we have a very healthy community relations group as part of this project. there are a lot of elements that are working with the union square merchants and dealing with those issues. but we can come back with more of the details on that because those are questions that we had to answer a couple of years ago when we went through this process. but i don't recall the exact -- >> one would be to minimize it

during the christmas season, obviously a busy season for them. as long as you are doing the outreach with the community, that is excellent. the one thing i note on this map which is an excitement to me, you have in here a possible future line which appears to be running along eerie. am i reading the map correctly? >> which page is that on? >> possible future muni line. >> this map was taken from some of the earlier preliminary engineering drawings, which had geary in the concept stage. at that time we didn't know if it would be a connection to the subway or a b.r.t. this man shows that potential. >> all right. >> but it is not part of the program now. >> i understand that. great next idea though.

and the stations, the connection between powell street and union state stations will be at subground level so someone can walk from station to station? >> no connection at the platform. >> are there still plans for moving side walks? >> we actually abandoned those ideas about two years ago when the cost of the moving sidewalks became an issue. when we went through our risk mitigation program -- f.t.a. has a risk program you go through where you take a look at enhanced elements and what they would cost. when we went through that, we threw it out because of the huge cost. >> another item we need to follow up with this because this has come from the public

in terms of the length of time of transfer from our platform to the bart system. carter, i don't know if you have that in front of you, but i want to make sure we give you as much as we can in terms of potential issues. that was hot button a few years ago. >> we are not talking about a major league distance. >> maybe not for you and i? >> but it's about a block's worth of distance? >> yes. where someone of my age would ben at this time from moving sidewalks. >> and you are the one who threw it out, >> and you are not going to be any younger when it gets through. that concludes that. >> no one has registered as a speaker card, and i don't see anyone in the audience who is appearing to desire to address you. >> so we can take both at once? >> ma i -- you may.

>> any discussion? the ayes after it. >> number 14, fixing the wage schedule for transit operators at $29.52 per hour as of july 1, 2010. >> what is the pleasure of the board? >> move the staff recommendation. >> second. >> all in favor say aye. the ayes have it. >> i'd 15, discussion and vote whether to go to closed session and invoke the attorney-client privilege. prosecutor moved. >> seconded. >> all in favor say eye. >> for the close the session, we >> the board met in closed

session. the board of directors took no action. directors, do you want to disclose or not disclosed? director nolan: i think is important that we may be just indicate who was the present -- who was present at the meeting. and yes, mr. chairman. in the minutes, we are required to reflect who is involved in the closed session, the minutes will reflect that. director nolan: on the basis of that, is there a motion to disclose or not disclose? director oka: move to not disclosed. director nolan: all in favor? we were not disclosed. with that, we are adjourned. -- we will not disclosed. with that, we are intent. -- adjourned.

>> good afternoon. thank you for joining us. today is a major milestone in our sf park program. it is a new system of managing parking in the city and county of san francisco. the mta was fortunate enough to receive a $25 million partnership grant to look at ways to help with congestion in urban cities and find a way to do with pricing. rather than looking at toll booths and things of that nature, we thought it would be a more elegant solution to look at where the cars are going better actually trying to park. by making parking easier and getting better data, we believe we will have a strategy that will reduce congestion on city streets. over 30% of the contestant

dickcongest -- congestion is related to automobiles looking for parking. we want to provide better data in terms of the sensors on the street. they will have a real time information needed for 511, through the website, or through their smart phones to receive information as to where parking is available in the city. the parking will be made available because we're going to properly priced the parking in the city. by having these smart readers, we will be able to properly priced the parking in the city to provide at least 15% availability on almost every street in the city in terms of parking. by guiding you there, we hope you can get off the street quickly, find your parking spot, and pay the appropriate price in terms of the value. parking. we're very excited about the project. today is the launch of about 190

meters that will be installed as part of the pilot program. we will be collecting data over the next few months. the pilot will last a total of two of years. this is the first area where it will be implemented. over the next three months, we have five additional areas where we will be implementing new leaders. we're also looking at new technology related to multi- space meters. we're looking at better using the parking infrastructure on the street so that it is not obtrusive to pedestrians and at the same time is aesthetically pleasing. i have several staff members here. they're going to be able to answer any detailed questions you have about a project. today is a very exciting day. by reducing the circling parking spots, we help with many mu -- ni --muni to be able to travel

quicker. we reduce the amount of carbon emissions created by cars circling trying to find a parking spot. if you do not use muni and need to use an automobile, where making it easier for the automobile users by providing real-time information on parking availability. we're also making it easier to pay. inconnus points, credit cards, a debit card -- you can use queens -- you can use coins, credit cards, debit cards, and other forms of payment. >> how will the congestion pricing work? >> we will be able to price the parking, the cost of parking on a daily basis, time of day, day of the week.

in case of special events down by the ball park, we will be able to properly price on street parking as related to what is happening in the city. the current plan is not to make adjustments on a daily basis. it will be more of a monthly basis. that is the plan entrance of adjusting prices so do not confuse people. the idea is to properly priced the parking so that we create enough availability on the streets of the automobile users will be able to park quickly. we are not extending or changing any of our current powers of enforcement in terms of the parking meters. we're not want to be implementing sunday parking meters. we're going to keep the current practices and policies. with the data that we collect from the meters and the censors in the 2011 timeframe, that is when will will start putting in for mission to the -- putting

the information to the mta board to make policy decisions. the meters generate $26 million in terms of revenue each year. citations represent about $20 million. it is a significant revenue impact of the meters. we're looking at the meters not just to create more revenue for the agency. the goal is to really reduce congestion and deal with carbon emissions. [unintelligible] [traffic] >> by making it easier for people to pay at the meter using a credit or debit card, we think it will make it much easier for them to pay for the utilization. they will not take a chance of not having enough change in getting a citation.

that is why we're doing, a pilot. whee need to get an sense of the impact on the new technology. we would prefer that our revenue comes from the parking meter and it being properly administered instead of issuing citations. citations are somewhat punitive. we want to make it easier for people to use our streets and parking in the city. they can get a off the streets so that muni can go through easily. >> what is the most expensive parking right now? >> the most expensive parking right now is $3.50. that is downtown. that is $3.50 per hour. we do expect to have arranged. right now, is about $2 in residential parking areas. it is $3 over by the wharf and

$3.50 downtown. i have a range from 50 cents up to $6. -- we expect to have ranged from 50 cents up to $6. if we have an area that is underutilized, we will try to steer you there with low or parking rates per hour. >> is there a chance that the price will fluctuate on the high end any day? >> that will be the price during the day. we do not want to make it more confusing to use the parking and for structure. yet it is to stabilize it, use the data we are collecting -- the idea is to stabilize it and use the data we're collecting. any changes will occur every four weeks in terms of rate changes. >> the most expensive hourly parking right now is $3.50. you anticipate some parking up to $6. when would that happen?

>> the pilot study is going to be over the next two years. it will be some time before we get to those numbers. the most important thing is that we will have the data to make better decisions in terms of the actual utilization. that is the most important part of a pilot. what is the actual utilization? how long do people need to be in a parking spot? in some cases, we expanded the limitations. we may move to four our parking in some areas. this is a major milestone. it is one of many steps towards a new parking policy in the city. it will take about two years to do that. >> are there censors around here? >> there is one right there. there is one right behind you over there, young lady. the sensors will provide information when someone is parking and pulling out of the parking spot. in conjunction with the meters,

with a much better data collection in the city. we're very excited about the project. we've got attention from around a country if not around the world. this is one-of-a-kind in terms of using new technology to deal with on street demand parking. >> if i go to five and 11, with the data be there? >> it is not there yet but will be there in the next few weeks. we expect to provide this data in an open source manner. we expect some smart phone applications to be developed out of that. we expect great things to happen. you will be able to with your smart device know exactly where a spot is and find your way to it. >early 2011 for the real time data, the early part of next year. >> what will determine what district these meters and sensors will be? how did you decide on the test

areas? >> the short answer is we try to look a good sampling of different positions, more tourist areas versus residential and business and financial district. we need to have a mix of six different pilot areas to get an idea of utilization. parking is not the same in any -- in every area, as you can imagine. the pilot project areas chosen were part of the agreement with the u.s. department transportation. they were chosen as sample areas, represented of neighborhoods in the city. downtown, the civic center, employment centers, places that generate a lot of traffic. the case valley civic center, the marina, fisherman's wharf downtown. >> they will be up and running over the next three months. >> who makes the systems?

>> the company that is based in san diego. [unintelligible] [traffic] >> that is of a question. -- that is a good question. we will get to test that out in terms of the ruggedness of the meter. the plan originally was to replace all the meters over the next three years. we were fortunate in getting the grant. it allows us to test out a lot of technologies and go beyond simply replacing the meters in kind. this will also be a pilot in terms of ease of use by customers, usability, simplicity, and whether it will stand up to an urban environment. >> aside from the meter head itself that we're piloting to

see how durable it is and whether or not it is easy to read, with also built-in security measures -- we have also built-in security measures into the infrastructure itself. all of these parking meters have an hour thing that rotates. this is to prevent people from putting a pipe cover on it -- pipe cutter on it to remove the head. [unintelligible] >> how you assure people that put in a credit card in [unintelligible] >> part of the specification was the highest level of security or credit card processing. none of the data is stored on the meter or by the mta. it is handled by the meter

company and processed as quickly as possible. there's very little risk of using credit cards at the meters. >> [unintelligible] concerned about the possibility of [inaudible] [traffic] >> one of the great things about the meters is that it makes it so easy to pay. people should get a lot fewer parking tickets and area. that can leave people with a bitter taste in your mouth. that is one part. the demand response of pricing , the mta is legally obligated to charge lowest pricing available to create a target. it will be easy for customers to come and find a space quickly. my name is jay primus. i am the program manager for

sf park. thank y>> thank you very much. why don't you do a demonstration for them? >> meter has some time on it. you concede the flashing -- you can see the flashing led. now it is cancelled. it is going through the verification process. it starts with a minimum of 30 minutes. you can add or subtract time. [traffic] when you are ready, you can

cancel or ok it. i am one to hit -- doh link to hit -- i am going to hit ok. it is verified. it has 53 minutes on it now. >> they are ready to go. we have most of them out there already. if you recall, we have the sf park card. they will not work in the meters right now. the programming issues to deal with. we expect that within two month, the card will also be available. you will have coins, credit and debit cards, and the sf cards. there will be four different ways to pay to use the meter. you will not have to walk around

with change. the ease of use will be some of the benefits of the meters. with that, i think we're done. thank you for joining us to help us get the word out. ♪ i'm the president of friends of mclaren park. it is one of the oldest neighborhood community park groups in san francisco. i give a lot of tours through the park. during those tours, a lot of the folks in the group will think of the park as very scary. it has a lot of hills, there's a lot of dense groves. once you get towards the center of the park you really lose your orientation. you are very much in a remote

area. there are a lot of trees that shield your view from the urban setting. you would simply see different groves that gives you a sense of freedom, of being outdoors, not being burdened by the worries of city life. john mclaren had said that golden gate park was too far away. he proposed that we have a park in the south end of the city. the campaign slogan was, people need this open space. one of the things that had to open is there were a lot of people who did a homestead here, about 25 different families. their property had to be bought up. so it took from 1928 to 1957 to buy up all the parcels of land that ended up in this 317 acres. the park, as a general rule, is heavily used in the mornings and the evenings. one of the favorite places is up by the upper reservoir

because dogs get to go swim. it's extremely popular. many fights in the city, as you know, about dogs in parks. we have 317 acres and god knows there's plenty of room for both of us. man and his best friend. early in the morning people before they go to work will walk their dogs or go on a jog themselves with their dogs. joggers love the park, there's 7 miles of hiking trails and there's off trail paths that hikers can take. all the recreational areas are heavily used on weekends. we have the group picnic area which should accommodate 200 people, tennis courts are full. it also has 3 playground areas. the ampitheater was built in 1972. it was