>> we will elect whether to make it disclosed what was discussed. >> i would like to make a motion not to disclose what was discussed. >> second. >> item 19 is commissioners matters. >> i want end of day -- an

update on the garage. >> they you want to put it on for next meeting for a report on it? >> are there any other commissioners matters? any public comment? item is closed. 20 is new business. is there any public comment? item 20 is closed. communication, is there any public comment? public comment is closed, and item 22 is adjournment. >> unanimous, thank you.

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>> please turn any pages or so fond of. the signals interfere with the sound system in the room. if you would, please stand and join the commission in the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. thank you.

ladies and gentlemen, please direct your attention to the roll call of commissioners. commission president joe marshall? president marshall: present. vice president mazzucco present. commissioner dejesus: present. commissioner chan: present. commissioner hammer: present. commissioner kingsley: present. president marshall: this is the regular meeting of the san francisco police commission, wednesday august 18, 2010. would you please call item 1? >> item 1 is approval of the

minutes from the regular meetings of april 28, 2010, and may 5, 2010. president marshall: those minutes are in your packet. if there are no changes, i will take the motion for approval. without objection, so ordered. item two, please. >> item 2 is the consent calendar, under which we have four items. the second quarter status summary report of officer shooting investigations, the second quarter for ron discharge review board findings, the quarterly report by the department and office of citizen complaints regarding policy proposals, and the office of citizen complaints monthly comprehensive statistical port january through july 2010 and january through july 2009. president marshall: some of these are carryovers from our

last meeting. most of them are stand alone items. as the lieutenant and i went to the agenda, which put them all on the consent calendar. however, if any commissioner wishes to discuss this, we can do that. if not, we will vote on them as a whole. commissioner chan: i just had one question about the officer involved shooting report. i notice for the officer- involved shooting -- i want to thank the members of staff who worked on that report. it looks like it took a lot of work. i wanted to ask about any traininggm with regards to dealg with members of the public. it looks like a number of the officer-involved shootings did involve members of the public with mental issues. i understand there was a report recently with some suggestion as to trading -- training with regard to mentally ill people and how to the escalate these

situations. >> a significant amount of training is provided to many of our personnel to deal with n2mental illnesses. more recentlyé÷, in my office, i directed a report be done -- an analysis of officer-involved shootings. we have completed a very thorough report. there were a number of recommendations. that report was presented to the commission early this year. ested

that be explored. the commission determined that was not something the commission wanted to approve. there are also other training recommendations that were involved there that are still pending further review. >> thank you, chief. those are the training recommendations i was curious about. if at a future meeting, you can calendar this at whatever date it makes sense, and then just give us updates with those training recommendations. i understand their needs to be more time to fully implement it. >> i think there is enough desire for the commission -- maybe what we should be looking at is a holistic look at trending reports. we are heading into some very different -- very difficult times. by the end of this year, we will see less than last year. we have also reduced our overtime from two years ago by 71%. that represents people in the field. jvyoxiz mandates required by the state. we have training mandates required by this commission and other directives that occurred in the last few years. it is prolate a good time to do

assessments of retraining mandates that the station has and evaluate and prioritize how much training are we willing to pay for. there is no such thing as free training. every time we send people to be trained, we are taking them away from the field, and we are paying for their salary. i think it would be a good thing for this commission to have a full understanding of what our training resources are. we can collectively decide where we want to go in the next year or two or three. commissioner chan: i think that is a great suggestion to review the training requirements we have an prioritize it. that is great. how much time would you need to put that together? >> what i would like to do is i want to talk to commander smith when she gets back from vacation. thisw0 have a

discussion through some of this month i will be able to put month i will be able to %g7lqwm. i cannot say how long that would take. i want to be certain we do it right. >hi do not want to just come in. i want to take, basically, the entire training world and put it out there. commissioner chan: ok. thank you. vice presidentf÷ mazzucco: i am not sure what you are asking for -- commissioner dejesus: i am not sure what you're asking for. i hear the chief saying he wants to do an overview of all the training. >> that is what we would be required to do. commissioner dejesut week, when we were here with the medical campus group, it was not clear there was specific trainingx< on the medical cannabis issue. that would be one that is very important. when you look at the hours, there is hardly any training on how to handle that.

grthat would be helpful. and when you talk about the mental health training i know that one of the prongs in the ñ was establishing a mental-health unit. i am wondering. i would like a little bit of a breakdown of what type of training they got for mental health training. one of the things we heard over and over again at the taser presentation was having a unit that was trained to and mentally ill patient with  than agitating them by screaming and pointing guns at them. i am wondering if we have any training regarding those particular techniques on how to take a mentally ill person down without violence and without, i guess, increasing the situation -- raising the level. >> i think we could in proof --

which could include all of those things. president marshall: any other questions on the consent calendar? if none, i will take a motion to approve the consent calendar. without objection, so ordered. public comment on items one and two, which was the consent calendar. any of those items? none? i am sorry. thank you. then we move to item number three. >> item # 3 is general public comment. this is were members of the public may address the commission for a time determined by the chair on items within the jurisdiction of the commission but that do not appear on the agenda. president marshall: public comment? go right ahead.

three minutes, sir. >> my name is ray hart. i am director of the san francisco open government coalition. if you are not familiar with my name, you should be. i took this commission and the sentences to police department to the sunshine ordinance task force for failure to let citizens look at the documents maintained by both the commission and the police force in order that they may effectively make a request for public documents. it was 10 years after the passage of the law the city -- in the city and neither of these agencies have updated the records, nor had anything on their web site which would allow citizens to make a direct request for specific documents. the limit to qualify the statement before you jump. the sentences the police department has a long history of withholding. -- the san princess go police department has a long history of withholding. there was a report to the board

of supervisors in titled, "the long history of sfpd witholding information necessary for citizen complaints." i will bring that next time. in both just jurisdictions, you have now put up an index, but it is meaningless. it is a long list not of anything that would help a citizen. it is simply a list put into categories. i can figure out that accidents are probably in the category "accidents," and i can figure out civil grand jury reports are listed somewhere. but it should not be a matter of guesswork. i as a citizen have a right to ask you for documents in your custody. they are in your custody. they do not belong to the police department or the police commission. they do not belong to the city of san francisco. they belong to the citizens of the city and county of san francisco. they have every right to come in

and unimpeded fashion, research and make a request for any document you have in your custody. what i have seen is a long history of the san francisco police department doing everything in their efforts to avoid giving us the correct listing of what those documents are. frankly, and again, this is a loaded statement. i am finishing the second volume of the three part history of the third reich in germany. believe me, some of the things i am reading there are rather reminiscent to the way the police department operates here. it is also the way police departments operated in the former soviet bloc. police states to keep records about us in all sorts of categories and do everything they can to prevent those categories from coming to light. like the fajitagate issue, this appeared in the press. two of the officers involved

ultimately paid a $47,000 supplement to those individuals. i would like to know those things to your documents, not through the internet. president marshall: any further general public comment? >> i have photographs. can they be? honorable police chief and police commissioners, i am a painter and sculptor. you can find character references from internationally-

renowned professionals. i will not be able to get through this, but i have a copy for each of you. it is two and a half pages. i am a target of ongoing torture here in san francisco, which is to stop now. what follows is information that i have shared with the international criminal court and various high-ranking government officials -- the aclu in san francisco, senator barbara boxer, and numerous others active in the human rights field. i have been a target of constant abuse since 1985, when i fought a well-connected woman in court for stealing from me, elaine hirsch in new york city. this was after my graduate work. she was found guilty, and this is when my life came under attack.

i have continued to the present. my first eight years in san francisco, i lived in a six-foot by 10 foot basement, struggling to survive and working for the owner of the building getting his greeting card business going. he is a millionaire now. i took a lot of abuse from him while he bragged that he had business with organized crime once upon a time. i am undergoing defamation of character, causing unemployment and isolation, gangs stalking wherever i am in public transport, at the gym which my family paid for me to go to come on the street, at events, etc. punchers on my body daily. i am stopped by people who i do not know. abusive illegal treatment by professionals and doctors. i could show you my mouth, with teeth pulled -- big spaces that

did not need to be pulled. there is no dentist i can go to and trust. the same with the doctors. i can tell you stories of unethical treatment. monitoring -- i have no privacy,. . electromagnetic radiation, which i know you all are familiar with by now, causing extreme heating up of my entire body, cramping, with vital organs being particularly effective, my chest, heart and head. it is difficult to speak because i am missing teeth. the most severe targeting is when i am in bed. to be continued. thank you. i have copies for everybody. president marshall: next speaker, please. you are on public comment. >> thank you. my name is christine harris.

i respectfully request the san francisco police department district attorney city attorney to investigate my perpetrators. debra davis, bryan swuarqare l. her husband, her property manager, and the police officer at the mission street police station -- police station. there were energy weapons that burned all of my internal organized -- internal organs. stalking, harassment, wiretap my p9jphone, installation of the gs system in my car. please investigate another person who claims to be a victim -- tim anderson, who created a of a group called terror_stalking.

i have had to be my own detective, and i feel as though ñr be the comptroller of the technology. this person told me over the 9 you can all turn a blind eye becauseáñr you are not a victi. are you protecting criminals and crucifying the victim? thank you. o speaker, please. >> come forward, sir. >> gentlemen, my name is eric. i have been a resident of san francisco for the last 24 years. i rehearsed this poem. it came out to about five minutes. i recently filed a complaint against the san francisco police department with the occ, and

there were some inconsistencies in the way the occ closed the complete without interviewing me. i asked for a copy of the ordered interview and was sent a blank disc. what i really want to know is what the situation is at the occ. i will be short here. president marshall: we cannot respond, but certainly you can talk to the record at some talk to the record at some point.