do -- commissioner hammer: we do this in criminal courts all the time. we will save the city lots of money by taking this position and no one will be gaming the system. we once discussed whether or not we had the full-fledged admission and then withdraw it. >> they enter their plea and we were told we couldn't reconsider, i would imagine withdrawing would be about the same thing. commissioner chan: commissioner, i have to defer on this. >> i know mr. alden has had this conversation with people in other police agencies, that that would be effective just to say that if on this date the officer does not retire, which i didn't

brick -- bring up, he raised. that the ultimate disposition will be based on the charges. quite frankly, you add to that, you know, attorneys get a bad rap in this world, but if paul cummings comes to this position and says he's going to do that, it's going to happen. so stimse sometimes we have to add something to that, probably the most credible man in the courthouse. putting that aside -- commissioner hammer: i don't want to step on you, i don't question him at all. i am just saying as a commission we should have a procedure where officers get bound to something, and if they sign something, and follow through, the case doesn't go to court. >> my suggestion to the

commission is that we allow them, as we stand here tonight to seek a continuance and during the course of this week, i will work with them and get the appropriate document wherein the officer will agree, as mr. cummings said, to resign effective november 20th. excuse me, will admit each and every allegation of the complaint effective november 20, 2010. should we take a vote on that, lieutenant reilly? >> the action item is to issue the subpoenas. >> i think if we keep it within the scope of the agenda item. commissioner hammer: so moved

exact language used by the city attorney. is it a date we're looking at in a week or two? commissioner chan: yes. commissioner hammer: i want to clarify what the motion is. vice president mazzucco: we will add this to calendar next week for further discussion in closed session. commissioner hammer: thank you. vice president mazzucco: thank you for watching that. president marshall: without objection, so ordered. >> i will make sthure that the witness -- i will make sure that the witness does not need to be here next week, and i will be here to discuss the settlement conference. >> thank you all very much. president marshall: thank you, mr. cummings. public comment on item number 6. hearing none, we move to item number 7.

vice president mazzucco: some of the commissioners thought this item was on for next week. it looks like we'll have a new commissioner, so i ask we move this to the first week of october so we'll have the new commissioner on board and it will be post-retreat. >> moving to item 7, commissioner, that is the election of commission officers. vice president mazzucco: i would move we move this to the first week of october. that is october 6. and by then we should have our new commissioner on board, we hope hope. hopefully we'll have them there fwor our retreat on october 2nd. >> do we want -- and i know that you all have been really patiently sitting on this for a long time, but do we want to move it at least a couple of weeks part that, so that the new

commissioner actually will have an opportunity to be at a few meetings and see how things are going and make an informed vote himself? commissioner chan: the only thing is, the new president's term is really being eaten up by this delay. i don't know if this will help resolve the issue that we have here. i was hoping that maybe del would be some discussions -- maybe there would be some discussions to resolve this. commissioner kingsley: i jufert remember my first meeting here and it was calendar, and i'm projecting that onto the new commissioner. president marshall: and you didn't run away.

president marshall: so your first idea was to put it over. have we agreed on a date to do so? vice president mazzucco: have we agreed to -- commissioner hammer: it is my motion to october 6. president marshall: all right. without objection it is now 6. president marshall: all right. any public comment on this item? all right. thank you. president marshall: we move to item number 8.

lieutenant? vice president mazzucco: commissioner, considering the hour, i consider we take item 11 out of order. president marshall: so then we move to item 9? >> item 9 is public comment on all matters pertaining to the closed session as described under item 11. item 11 a is pursuant to government code 5957 and the penal code, an action item, under personnel exception and discussion of possible action to accept or reject case number jwa c01-91 subject b is subject to the same penal code exceptions for personal nell exception and that is whether to sustain or not sustain this in case number

alw-cl 9-0 and 11-c is subject to the same personnel exceptions , discussion and possible action to grant or deny motion to quash service and dismiss pursuant to california government code section 3304-d, defective service, disciplinary charges filed in case number c-10-059 pursuant to government code section 3304-d. pursuant to a, b, and c. president marshall: item 10, please. >> item 10 is a vote on whether to hold the closed session, commissioner. commissioner chan: a vote to move into closed session. president marshall: we'll move into closed session, and we'll do it in here, and we'll take the items in order, unless there will other concerns.

do the commissioners need a break before we go in? we'll take five minutes. >> thank you. police commission meets in closed session at 7:48. [laughter] >> we are going to be going live in just a second. mr. president, the police commission is returning to open session. first of all, we passed item eight, but we are on item 12 at this point. >> please call item 12. >> item 12 is a vote to disclose the information from closed session. >> move not to disclose. >> so ordered.

>> do you have something you have to announce? >> public comment? >> none. >> moving on to the adjournment item. >> will move to item 13, adjournment. >> the meeting is adjourned. thank you, everyone. >> the police commission will adjourn.

>> in this fabulously beautiful persidio national park and near golden gate and running like a scar is this ugly highway.

that was built in 1936 at the same time as the bridge and at that time the presidio was an army and they didn't want civilians on their turf. and the road was built high. >> we need access and you have a 70 year-old facility that's inadequate for today's transportation needs. and in addition to that, you have the problem that it wasn't for site extenders. >> the rating for the high viaduct is a higher rating than that collapsed. and it was sapped quite a while before used and it was rusty

before installed. >> a state highway through a federal national park connecting an independently managed bridge to city streets. this is a prescription for complication. >> it became clear unless there was one catalyst organization that took it on as a challenge, it wouldn't happen and we did that and for people to advocate. and the project has a structural rating of 2 out of 100. >> you can see the rusting reinforcing in the concrete when you look at the edges now. the deck has steel reinforcing that's corroded and lost 2/3's

of its strength. >> this was accelerated in 1989 when the earthquake hit and cal came in and strengthened but can't bring to standards. to fix this road will cost more than to replace. and for the last 18 years, we have been working on a design to replace the road way, but to do in a way that makes it appropriate to be in a national park and not army post. >> i would say it's one of the most ugly structure, and it's a barrier between the mar sh and presidio. and this is a place and i

brought my dogs and grandchildren and had a picnic lunch and it was memorable to use them when we come here. what would it look like when the design and development is completed. and we are not sure we want an eight lane highway going through this town. and it's a beautiful area in a national seaport area on the planet. >> the road is going to be so different. it's really a park way, and it's a parkway through the national park. and they make the road disapeer to the national park. >> and the road is about 20 feet lower, normally midday, you go through it in two

minutes. looking back from the golden gate bridge to presidio, you are more aware of the park land and less of the roads. and the viaduct will parallel the existing one and to the south and can be built while the existing one remains in operation. and the two bridges there with open space between them and your views constantly change and not aware of the traffic in the opposite direction and notice the views more. and the lanes of course are a foot wider than they are today. and they will be shoulders and if your car is disabled, you can pull off to the edge. and the next area, the tunnel portal will have a view centered on the palace of fine arts and as you come out, you

can see alkatrez island and bay. and the next area is about 1,000 feet long. and when you come into one, you can see through the other end. it's almost like driving through a building than through a tunnel. and noise from the roadway will be sheltered. and the traffic will be out of view. >> when you come out of the last sort tunnel and as you look forward, you see the golden dome of the palace of fine arts and what more perfect way to come to san francisco through that gateway. >> it will be an amazing transformation. now you read it as one section, the road is a major barrier and then a wonderful strip along the water. all of those things are going

to mesh together. >> right now the road really cuts off this area from public access. and with the new road, we will be able to open up the opportunity in a new way. >> this bunker that we see now is out of access for the general public. we are excited to completely rework this side and to open up the magnificent views. and what we want to do is add to this wonderful amenity and restore this coastal bluff area and respect its military history and the doyle drive project is allowing us to do that recorrection. and this area is not splintered

off. >> and we can see how dramatic a change it will be when doyle drive is suppressd and you have a cover that connects the cemetery to this project. it's historic on the statewide and national basis, but you could rush the project or put thought and time to create something of lasting public benefit. >> we really want this, for everyone to feel like it's a win situation. whether you are a neighbor that lives nearby or a commuter or user of the park. that everyone will experience a much better situation than they currently have. >> the human interest to me is how people could work out so many challenging differences to come to a design that we believe will give us a jewel.

landmark of a place. >> i am sure it will have refining effect like embark did. and there were people about that and no one would think of that today. and when you look at growth and transformation of the embark, the same with doyle. it will be a cherished part of the city and a worthy addition to what is there. >> it will be a safe and beautiful entrance to a spectacular beautiful city. it will be the entry to golden gate that san francisco deserves.

>> san francisco's buses and trains serve many riders who are blind or how low vision. muni is their lives line to get around. simple act of courtesy can help them access muni services safely. it is not just courtesy. it is the law. >> i used to take the 21 airlock.

>> lot of times, when i would be waiting at the bus stop, the door would open and the driver would announce the bus line. >> 71. >> it is easier and preferable when a driver sees someone who is obviously visually impaired if they stop in front of me and say "this is the 71," "this is the seven." >> our buses are setup to announce the lines when we pull up. when i see a customer with a guide dog or cane, make sure i let them know what line i am. >> every time i get on the bus, i tell the driver where i need to get off, even if i think there digital voice system is going to announce that. just so they know in the event that it is not working. i would say a good amount of the time, i do get acknowledgment, actually. >> good morning. >> morning.

is your announcements system working? >> i'm sorry, it is not. >> could you let me know when we get to van ness and sacramento? >> i sure will. >> i have had a number of drivers be really helpful in terms of getting passengers to move down a few seats so i can sit in the front. >> can somebody give this lady a seat? >> the bus driver was say, "please wait a moment. i want to make sure you have a seat." and i hear him or her announced that he needs a seat for a person with a disability. >> as soon as the person gets on the bus, i ask the passengers if we can have a seat for this person. >> anybody help us? thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> sides, federal law requires that the customers give their seats to the elderly and disabled if they should need it. >> buses should stop in zones that can accommodate multiple lines will stop behind one

another. i cannot see what bus is behind -- i'm not even sure if there is a bus behind. the second bus does not come up to the front. oftentimes, it has caused me to be passed up by bosses, by trains, and again, it makes me late for appointments. it makes me late for my job. >> i'm often anxious that i'm going to miss the bus that i need, simply because i'm not fast enough to scamper down and find out which bus is lined up behind the bus that is currently in front of me. what i'm going to work and i take the van ness street buses to work, sometimes, one of them will pull up right next to the other one. not in a bus stop, but parallel to it. and i do not know it is there. i also do not feel comfortable walking out into the street.

>> is that my boss over there? i think that is my boss -- bus. i'm going to miss it. i don't know how many times i have missed buses because of this. >> i do not double park. it is not safe for our customers, and especially the visually impaired. anything could happen, and it is muni's policy not to double park. normally what i do, if i can safely go in behind, i pull in the zone, offload my customers, load the customers that are waiting for me. when the bus in front of the leaves, i will pull to the front for the customers that did not see me. >> sometimes, the bus pulls up, and there is stuff in my way because the boys -- bus has not pulled up right in front of me. i have to figure out how to get around or through.

i have to navigate through all of that in order to get onto the bus. >> when i pick up a visually impaired customers, i like to pull up right in front of them, make sure nothing is in the way so they can walk right on the coach. >> okay, take one big step forward. >> when i drop off a visually impaired customers, make sure you do not pull up at the shelter. you want to give them a straight shot so they can go to the left or the right. you want to pull in front or behind the shelter. never around any trees or pose. i usually let them know that they have about 10 feet before you. a straight shot, and wallace 10 feet away, and they can make the decision what they want to do from that point. every now and then, and visually impaired customer wants to be dropped off right at the shelter. so they can go to the left or the right from there. >> ok, you want to take one big

step when you step off. the shelter is straight ahead. >> if i get on the bus and asked a bus driver to please tell me when to get off at seven straight, the bus driver very often will tell me to just look at the sign, and i will say that i cannot see the sign because and visually impaired. sometimes, the bus driver gets it. some of the time, the bus driver does not get it at all. it is really difficult when you do not see well to understand where things are. it is one of those issues where people do not see it from the outside. so when they see me having problems stepping off of curbs or stairs or running into the side of a building or things like that, it would appear to them as though maybe i had been drinking, but the problem is that there is no contrast between a great building and a

sidewalk. >> it is difficult for some drivers i think to understand that i am blind. although i may look like i'm getting along very well, and it did happen to me on several occasions with drivers, questioning my ability to see. they would say, "well, you really are not that blind." not only is that infuriating, but it is just something that cuts to my core. >> there are times that visually impaired customers get on the bus, and they are moving so well that makes me wonder how blind they are, but that is not for me to decide. i'm just here to take them some point a to point b safely. >> i moved all the way across the country specifically to live in san francisco because i knew they had great public transportation. i had the greatest interactions with muni drivers because i was thrilled to be on a bus and be able to get some more

independently. i think the drivers can really feel proud that they are making people's lives possible in a way that it is not possible in other parts even of this country. >> the americans with disabilities act of 1990 is a wide-ranging federal civil- rights law that prohibits discrimination against persons with disabilities. title two of the ada addresses access to public services, including public transportation for persons with disabilities. tips for respectful communication for people with disabilities brochures are available. call sfmta accessible services at 415-701-4485 for copies.