what is it we need to do to break down that barrier? they mentioned it is all about education. education alone does not work. in the late 1980's, they invested in intervention spirited -- in intervention. we found that everybody gained weight. we have learned we need education to make things work syria -- to make things work. we have standards for food safety of.

the standards work to protect public health. we have standards in a variety of fields. i think it is a viable strategy appear reagan -- a viable strategy. >> why did you come down? did you feel you were compromising the nutritional value? why did you think you could? >> the standard was half a cup. we thought five was a regional

with -- we thought that was reasonable. perhaps when more people are eating vegetables, we will be able to get to these standards. >> you were basically doing the same thing the school district >> one thing i have heard from mcdonald's is there are studies that demonstrate that the toy is incentive to make on healthy choices -- unhealthy choices. why did you think they are spending the money? >> often when people are

challenging a new policy, they say there is no study. we do not know if that would work. we cannot know if it works until we studied it to cure a good -- until we study it. they have the data on fell to the changes appear reagan -- they have the data. we would look at it with them. there is not widely-collected data. i think is inappropriate to say it has not been done quacks'

that reminds me of when they said there are no studies that show of call is not addictive puree get -- not addictive. >> fluoride has been important. it said it has been viewed as well. >> thank you so much. we are going to continue this. >> i want to thank you for your hard work. >> i would like to say that if

she would go to the mcdonald's, the toy is enjoying. they are very close to the conversation and your your --

close to the conversation. i am happy, sue. -- too. it is good. >> can i say thank you so much for coming? often, we will ask where you live. >> i know mcdonald's is not so

geared for me. >> one district of san francisco >> -- what district of san francisco? >> thank you very much. >> i am just here in case people need translation. who >> what district are you from? >> my name is regina.

i am an actress. today i came here because i saw the newspaper. also, i am a mother. i like it, because i can have more choice to educate my dollar. -- my daughter. i would agree mcdonald's with

the happy meals and the toy is. because i think if this is the owner, especially in the difficult economy. i think it makes it hard to explore the business. i think we limit the ability to return to society. also, i do a lot of social work in the chinese community. i knew they could -- they do

good things such as support scholarship. again, i propose -- i oppose this proposal. >> i work in downtown san francisco. my daughter is very healthy. we need to do something about, the unfairness of the legislation. why do we have to cost single out the restaurant of the house of a lawyer -- the restaurant

that has a toy. they tried to do something good for society, and if we penalize them, they will go to another place that will be much worse. >> to you lived in san francisco? >> i am speaking of personal experience. >> thank you the reagan >> i want to -- thank you. >> i want to point out the relationship with the toy, because how often do you go to mcdonald's sued by a soaring -- mcdonald to buy a toy?

the second thing is, when they offer you the toy -- compared to other things, the proportion of the happy meal may not have such a huge impact and. having an alternative choice is more important compared to other restaurants they do not have another choice. any restaurant provides the toys for the kids. that is my point. >> thank you.

>> i am from indonesia. fathoming donald's in antony sher, they do not have any -- the mcdonald's in indonesia, they do not have any problems, and no one set a rule to ban the toy is. it is so much fun for my niece and my nephew to come, and it brings happiness to my family. a i strongly object to this

ordinance. >> how did you find out about the hearing today? >> if you will get your phone and check that they are off, we would appreciate it. >> i am just wondering how you heard about the hearing today. i appreciate it. >> her friend told her about it. >> do you know if they have been funded by fast-food companies? >> china news.

>> i am opposed to this resolution. the main reason is i am a proud father of kids. my house has regulations. the government needs to stay out of my house by dictating what i can feed my kids my kids are allowed to have fast food once a month. they are my responsibility. the part of the world i came from, they dictated what we could eat and what we could wear. i am trying to raise a family to

stay out of the dictatorship. thank you very much. >> thank you syria -- thank you. >> i am opposing the ordinance. i am speaking as a mother of three children and grandchildren of six children. i think the ordinance is wrong because it takes away people's responsibilities for themselves and for the children. today we have numerous people speaking. there is no doubt we do have an epidemic. thank you for pointing out an

occasion for people to solve this issue. this is getting worse. we can work together. the scope of the problem is serious. we eat at fast-food, but most of the time we eat at home, so when you eat at a restaurant, it is easy to point a finger at a restaurant, and if they are the ones causing the problem, they provide food people want to eat. we do have a standard to guide us as to how to eat, and i think

most of the restaurant industry does try to comply. i think consumers have plenty of choices including mcdonald's to reagan -- including mcdonald's the reagan we need to work together. >> what city did you live in? >> i have a mcdonald's if business in the city appear reagan >> how did you find out about the hearing? >> i read about it in the paper. >> next speaker please. yea>> i am talking about a fast-

food restaurant. [speaking cantonese] >> i do not speak cantonese. >> i am working in san francisco.

>> it is in the restaurant. >> the kids go outside.

>> somebody says they use too much sugar. my kids go to mcdonald's to eat. the kids go out to eat at the restaurant. this is ok.

>> one day maybe he says i like

mcdonald's food. >> thank you so much for coming out. thank you fear reagan -- thank you. >> if you need translation, others can help. [speaking foreign language]

[speaking foreign language]

[speaking foreign language] >> through the afternoon, supervisors i am a grandparent of six grandchildren. i have four grandchildren in middle school, and every and we can they ask for a happy meal. it is the kids that want to go to mcdonald's. there is no longer a mcdonald's in chinatown, so now i have to take them to ocean street for

fisherman's wharf. >> ocean street has a good play area. thank you for being a good grandfather as well. >> the last thing he said is the kids do not want to see the dim sum. they want to go to mcdonald's. >> i think i have already called jenny down. if there is anyone else who wishes to speak, come forward. we are going to close public

comment soon. >> might speak reaching my speech may be a little rougher. -- my speech may be a little rougher. typically i consider myself a libertarian. i am not a big believer of the nanny state, but when i use to argue about helmet laws, we can have an abstract decision if you want. if you want to put a helmet on your head, that is your choice. i do not want government telling me what to do. as a father, i want the helmet on my kids, and i think about this as two concepts.

fairness and leadership. in the words of my 5-year-old, this is not fair. they have a tool, and i would not save the children are completely defensive but are highly exposed to it -- completely defenseless, but are highly exposed to it. i would like to make it a more level playing field so if a parent wants to bring their child for fast-food, fine. my 3-year-old with say, there is my proud sponsor. children are always looking at this. i want them to disassociate foy is from food, and that will get hea