i food and healthier children. i will not go to statistics. [bell] please take a leadership position in helping their children have happier lives. supervisor mar: thank you. so people should come forward. last chance. >> good afternoon, members of the committee. my name is -- and i am with the california restaurant association, an item here to oppose this legislation before you. first and foremost, implementing this ordinance does nothing really to accomplish the intended goal of reducing childhood obesity. we as an industry and even as parents understand that this child did obesity is a serious concern and one that requires an really deserves a comprehensive approach that addresses the various factors that actually contribute to childhood obesity. according to a recent report, as

much as 40% of a child's daily caloric intake -- further, more than 75% of all meals are eaten at home. the statistics say that this issue is not really about an incentive item or a toy offered but a much, much broader issue. parents say they want healthier options, i think it real solution would be to promote or focus on promoting physical activity, moderation, and educating these parents on the healthy items that are on the menu and helsing -- helping parents make informed choices. honthere is a lot in san francio that provides parents with these choices. -- there is a lot vote -- a law. we opposed it at the local level. supervisor mar: all right, thank

you. >> a san francisco parent was quoted in "the chronicle" this week saying that her child may wanta toy, but it is ultimately her decision of what her family eats. we have heard this from numerous families in san francisco, and we just completed a survey of san francisco registered voters, and a strong majority believe that restaurants should be allowed to include toys koran and the overwhelming majority once parents to make those decisions, not politicians -- should be allowed to include toys. and the overwhelming majority wants parents to make those decisions, not politicians. our survey will officially be released tomorrow.

supervisor mar: ok, could we get the research questions that were asked? >> yes. chair maxwell: thank you. supervisor mar: thank you. please come forward. >> my name is -- and i am speaking mandarin chinese. supervisor mar: someone from my office can help. >> more than 30 years. [speaking foreign language] >> i have lived in the bay area

for 30 years, and i do not understand the purpose of today's legislation. >> [speaking foreign language] >> he is asking if he can ask you that question. i am going to tell him that this is public comment. supervisor mar: we would really appreciate your comments. >> [speaking foreign language] >> [speaking foreign language]

>> as a worker, i have eaten a lot of fast food over the past 20 years. i had eaten at jack in the box and mcdonald's. when i was working, there was no other three options. -- food options. >> [speaking foreign language] >> no matter what kind of food you eat, whether it is japanese food or chinese food, it is responsibility to exercise. -- it is your responsibility to exercise. >> [speaking foreign language]

>> so the children who are eating these meals should be able to have their toys while they eat their meals so the toys can also be used as an educational item. >> [speaking foreign language]

>> i am 80 years old, and i am in very good health, and i have eaten a lot of fast food over the course of my life, and i have exercised. >> [speaking foreign language] >> i also have a lot of grandchildren who are also eating fast food, but they are in good health, and i and educate them about exercise -- and i educate them. supervisor mar: thank you. any last speakers at, please, we are going to cut it off after that person standing up there. >> thank you. i am marty martinez. i work with a statewide policy organization, and we represent

communities of color across california, and we really applaud this legislation in support it. -- and support it. communities of color are disproportionately consuming fast food in neighborhoods that are disproportionately close to fast-food and are suffering from greater rates of diabetes and obesity, and its current projections continue, we are going to get to the point where basically every other latino is going to have diabetes. that is going to be our future unless we take action. this is really a question of health equity. we really applaud the action. supervisor mar: thank you. i understand the director could not be here, but i really appreciate your being here. i also want to mention that the president of the american public

health association is in los angeles at a conference, but she will be notified is by letter, all of the supervisors and the mayor, that the american public health association -- the last speaker is deborah.from corporate accountability international but that has a number of things they have been working on. -- the last speaker is deborah. >> thank you so much for the opportunity today. toward you, yes. is that better? thank you so much. thank you so much for the opportunity to speak to you today. i in the senior organizer with a campaign of corporate accountability international, -- i am the senior organizer. we have 33 years of experience protecting public health and the environment, and we strongly support this ordinance. as michelle obama would point out, our nation is in the midst of a public health crisis.

today, we have heard from health professionals about how this crisis is affecting people here in san francisco. they painted a stark picture for the children of this city if we do not deal with this. we have heard from parents and teachers who share their personal stories about how this undermines their best efforts to keep our children healthy. we have also heard from others. sadly, at a time when others need to pitch in, we see only the same finger-pointing and empty promises that we have heard from the industry time and time again. first, the point the finger at parents. as if any parent would want their child to suffer the needle stick and the doctors that come with these chronic conditions. parents have had enough of the industries billions in marketing and to undermine them when they try to feed their children healthfully, and then getting

the blame when that marketing is successful. the recent national restaurant association conference, william whitman confirmed that the prize would remain the default option at the cash register. bergert and fries and butter. in a recent report -- burgers and fries. a key strategy to prevention of the obesity. we want to keep the trend million -- moving net was 8 million. -- moving that will save millions. [bell] supervisor mar: can i just ask? you referred to a national restaurant conference, and what exactly was said by mcdonald's? >> the vice president of communications confirmed that

fries would remain at the cash register. they have to specially request the apple dippers, and we were told that that was because the apple dippers were not that profitable for them. supervisor mar: thank you very much. chair maxwell: all right, any further public comment? public comment is closed. this item will be continued, and so at that time, you'll be allowed to have more comments. i have some questions that i would like to ask ms. welles and dr. good. supervisor mar: dr. goodie, i think. chair maxwell: dr. goodie. ms. welles, first.

we are not trying to attack, but as you can hear, there is a lot of public interest, and we have to listen to the public and the health professionals, and this is our driving force, so i want you both to understand that. ms. welles, a doctor before you left said what is the barrier? what is the barrier for vegetables and fruit, so i want to ask you that question. what is the barrier? if you could get a little closer? >> a few things, and i do what the doctor to comment on that. we really think it should be an option. in fact, we are testing for it or vegetables based on all of the science we know on how fritz and vegetables are consumed with meals, so it is not we just do not support vegetables and fruits. we think they are foods we should encourage, but we do have an opinion on how you propose

legislation as opposed to looking at how to tested bit -- how to test it. that is the first piece from a resolution peace, and i would like the doctor to come in on the fruit and vegetable piece. chair maxwell: we have made some changes, so could you -- supervisor mar: we're doing everything we can to be reasonable, especially with a phase-in. the 1/2 cup versus the 3/4 cup is a significant change should be free or vegetables as opposed to for and vegetables. -- should it be fruit or vegetables or fruit and vegetables. chair maxwell: one of the amendments was that it would

just be forced -- fruit, since people do not normally eat vegetables for breakfast. >> we appreciate this. we're very proud of a breakfast happy meal with oatmeal and apple dippers and milk. dr. goodie, if you could comment a few on the fruit and vegetable item? >> when we look at fat and sodium along with what supervisor mar has proposed as an amendment, there are randomized clinical trials that suggests that this particular combination will, indeed, decrease childhood obesity. number two, as outlined in the institute recommendations that the doctor referenced, the

institute of medicine clearly outlines and there is a burden that not only food service will have to bear but the supplier of those food-service products, such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, low-fat dairy, not to mention plants and infrastructure development and also the subsequent training and the costs associated with each one of those developments. chair maxwell: one second. when you mention about the grains, one of these ideas about mentioning whole grains was from mcdonald's, because you have a whole grain bun, so we inserted them, or, excuse me, supervisor mar, or, excuse me, supervisor chiu. supervisor chiu: so if i am to

understand, what supervisor mar is suggesting does not lead to a healthy diet? >> fat and sodium in combination with half a cup of ford or 3 cups. three-quarters of vegetables -- half a cup of fort -- of fruit or three-quarters of vegetables, that will not -- supervisor chiu: i actually think there is a combination that would be healthy. >> that would require some more for their research. supervisor chiu: millions of dollars of research probably. great. thanks. chair maxwell: all right, thank you very much, both of you, for coming, and we go forward to working with you in coming up with a way we can all move forward. thank you. because i am almost all certain you want a healthy population. >> can i comment on that?

chair maxwell: yes. >> i could not agree with you more. mcdonald's is committed to being part of the solution. we do not believe we are the cause of it or the sole cause of it. we certainly believe we should be part of the solution. and so i would hope that some of the conversations we have had today that the strides in mcdonald's has made, and you, supervisor mar, new recognized this, we would love to share with the implications of what this would look like, not just in san francisco, but also to make sure that we hopefully have a solution that will work across the board and not have a separate mcdonald's experiment in san francisco as opposed to the united states, so we certainly have the commitment, and we trust we will keep the conversation going.

chair maxwell: and i just wanted to add that i did not hear anyone say that mcdonald's was the sole -- excuse me, that fast food was the sole cause of the cause. but that fast food was a contributor, and that is why we are working onthat. we are working on a number of fronts, so please do not think that -- not any of the doctors i have heard today have said food was the sole source of our problems here. supervisor cops say -- supervisor chiu? supervisor chiu: i would agree with what our chairman has said. from what i see, these do seem to be fairly reasonable public health criteria that nutritionists in the industry of public health professionals has

laid out, -- and the industry a public health officials have laid out, and i would like to know if you would suggest anything in its place, because that would be something of would be willing to consider. >> we would love to keep the dialogue going. i think the biggest difference at this point is the option and the choice for the parents in the mandated legislation. i think that is where we are different, but what i would like to do is keep a dialogue open with what we are doing, and perhaps it will fit with some of what you are looking at. chair maxwell: ok, thank you so much for coming, and think all of you for coming. those that are for and those who are against. that is what democracy is about, reaching consensus and coming to a good place for all of us, so, again, of would like to thank all of you for coming. chair maxwell, is there -- we will continue this for at least one week. -- madam clerk, is there -- we

will continue this for a least one week. why do we not adopt this, and then we will continue the legislation as amended? on the amendment, without objection, so moved, and we will continue with this legislation as amended. this meeting is adjourned. i've been clean four years!

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>> hello, i'm meg, welcome to "culture wire." for this episode, the director of cultural affairs, luis, will take you on a journey through presidio has been tet. -- presidio habitat. >> welcome to "culture wire." today i'm at the presidio trust, a treasure within san francisco, because the presidio trust is really a national park in the center of an urban setting. it dates to the very founding of the city.

national park. toting me today to talk about this amazing exhibition at presidio habitat is cheryl hanes. can you tell me a little bit about the idea of the presidio habitat? >> succinctly, i have been long involved in the presidio. i was here when it was still a military base in the 1980's. i remember driving down walmart to the golden gate bridge and seeing the military guard at the gate and being utterly fascinated. >> so presidio habitat is an exhibition where you have invited, how many artists to think about the habitat? >> we put together a list of

possible participants, local, national, or international, of people who are concerned with environmental concerns, made some sort of contribution to the landscape and conversation we're having here. we said that broke -- proposal requests and we received 25 back. from that 25, we went through and chose tend to realize in the landscape. >> including this building, which is an amazing example of recycling. >> we are proud of this space. it was designed by a local architecture team. we said, we need something that is a temporary structure, something that can be brought onto the presidio in pieces, act

as an exhibition space for one year. we came up with the notion of shipping containers. it was important for us that we made this project for the place, of the place. what i mean by that is participants would also used repurchased materials. >> we will be speaking to one of the artists that you selected. what excited you about his idea? >> have many things. first of all, i am a fan of his architecture. because of that creativity, i knew that he could come up with something unique. i love the fact that he was specifically addressing the landscape around here, and it was also about the human interaction with this place.

>> what are your expectations with the people coming to presidio habitat? >> we really hope people will come with their family, dogs, and come back a number of times the works will change over the year. the feedback we are getting is you cannot do all of them on one visit. it is really better to come back and have different experiences. >> thank you. i am with mark jensen of jensen architect. he was one of the architects to be chosen to do the presidio habitat. when you heard about this project, what inspired you about that call? >> our inspiration is a great blue heron. it was the site itself that attracted us.

this is an incredibly beautiful outdoor room. we did a bit of reverse engineering once we knew we wanted to work here. which animals live here? the great blue heron jumped out at us. we walked around, and quickly, you get into another pace. you slow down, leave the city behind you. you can feel the wind and the breeze. in our increasingly frenetic, fast-paced, connected life, the chance to be of here and slow down a bit was part of the agenda. as part of the installation, it was suggested that this would be deliberately not mowed because it would allow the sustaining of insects, plants, that would graduate -- that would gravitate to the area.

>> that is right. i think you quickly notice that. >> thank you for being here. presidio habitat is an exhibition at the presidio trust. it will be in san francisco through may 2011. we hope you will come out to experience this amazing exhibition and great natural treasure. >> to learn more about the other habitats installations in the presidio, visit >> hello, commissioners, good afternoon. victoria bell, neighborhood parks council. i am the deputy director. we want to congratulate the park's trust and the commission on such a success of last night's event, and