collectives and they're getting bombarded because this is a loophole and it's just frightening. now, i'm also on the other side of the coin, i live in south of market. and i live right next to hope.net and i've worked next door or on the other side of the street at a motorcycle shop for five years. i watched them. they worked very hard on the community. it took a lot for them to come in there and the community was scared about it at first but they've shown what they can do. i'll tell you, everyone in my neighborhood doesn't want another collective -- it wouldn't be a collective, but profiteers -- coming in and setting up shop. it's quite disturbing. right now -- i don't think i could handle it. and it's really a shame and i really want you to close this loophole as soon as you can. but it's really quite shocking. again, i worked right next door for five years and they're good

people. i don't want anything happening to them but i don't want anyone else coming into our neighborhood and i want to have the voice. if i can't voice it, our neighbors can't voice it, we're feeling castrated. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> hello, my name is theresa cooper and i've worked at a cannabis dispensary in the city. i pride myself in going to family businesses. i'm also very careful about the people that i hang out with. i'm a healer of 10 years. i've worked at the world school of massage. family businesses that have built relationships in the community, built trust, have offered compassion, especially hope.net, access of love. what they offer the community has been built up for many years. so if someone comes in with

money, there's no way that anyone can replace what people have built up for many years. so i would be at a loss for compassion. i would be on the street smoking my medicine unless i had a friend that was home, maybe. i really appreciate theseath

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>> good afternoon. i am like. i like to welcome everyone to this meeting commencing at 1:38 p.m. president crowley: present. vice president vietor: here. commissioner caen may bee late and commissioner moran is excused for this meeting. president crowley: if there are no errors or omissions, a motion to accept the minutes of september 14, 2010. and the questions? -- any questions?

all those in favor? the ayes have this. >> we have one speaker card for general public -- we now have three speaker cards for general public comment. the first card submitted was by mr. dacosta. commissioner caen: -- president crowley: the floor is yours, sir. >> my name is francisco dacosta. i want to talk about a few things. the first topic that interests me is clean water. the more i read about it and the more i attended the meetings and the more i reviewed the documents, i see that there is a

real practical need of how to address waste of clean water, starting with city hall. it is not addressed directly. it is addressed indirectly through various other projects. but if we really want to follow empirical data, then we should have in the year 2010 the ability to monitor how much water is contained in our reservoirs, how much water is pumped into them, and how much water is consumed. and we cannot get those figures really. we get them in a gentle way -- a jangled way. over the years, we have had some advocates. most of them was stopped coming

over here because of exactly what i am saying. we come some of us, at the very few of us left, who have been monitoring the clean water projects for a long time. there are very few commissioners who have monitored them for as long as we have monitored them. and it is good that sometimes, you know, past general managers or people who have had some deep working experiences come back on the commission. and it is good that we have had the opportunity for others who worked once for the water department to come back and share their experiences.

but what we, the constituents, are paying attention to right now is how best to utilize every gallon of water, clean water. especially had ceci -- hetch hetche water. those are my comments. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> i am sorry. that is on another item. no more speakers on this one. the next item is communication. the commissioners the chair received a revised version of

the ledger summary, which was updated as of this morning -- the letter summary, which was updated as of this morning. there were e-mails that came in late morning, and i brought copies just in case if you have not had time to check them on line. president crowley: colleagues? vice president vietor: i have not had a chance to look. can you summarize? i guess they are all right here. >> the were primarily the letters regarding the sharp mark item on the agenda for today. there were all substantially the same, asking the commissioner to either not go forward or delay going forward with this project. vice president vietor: and we will have time later to address this under the agenda item. >> i expect there will be at

least one public speaker who sent an e-mail who will be here. vice president vietor: thank you. commissioner ellis: one thing that has not made it on there yet is the discussion of bonding against hetchche revenues. >> we have scheduled it for the october meeting. commissioner ellis: i missed that. there were a couple of items for the delivery date was listed as ongoing and i am not sure what that means. >> in some cases it is not just a question that gets answered. it is the continuing concern. we are trying to figure out ways to be showing that it would be back before us multiple times. commissioner moran: ok.

there were two like that from a list of projects. >> the ones where they have responded on going because for acre-foot fort large landscapes, for conservation projects, and those things. what i have asked the staff to do is whenever they bring anything like that to the commission to start an ongoing mission -- an ongoing list that gets updated each time that say the range of things out there and the cost of those. each time you see a new one, you can add to the list and compare to what was seen before. commissioner moran: the question about what the wisf program -- those have been answered.

seeing as we are spending thousands of dollars an acre foot for pretty much anything we do, i had specifically asked for a list of conservation projects that came in at less than $2,000 an acre foot. >> right. but the next time you asked for those over that period we put all of them on a list and will have it before you each time we bring anything forward. you would have it available each time something comes up. we did not want to just shoot for under and over, because we're also getting questions about what is the opposite of that. commissioner moran: the first iteration of that? >> is supposed to be done at the next meeting. commissioner moran: thank you. vice president vietor: i see at the october meeting that we are going to talk about environmental construction and

compliance. i assume that is a continuation of the green contracting. >> at this point, it would seem to be able to get a quorum. we would be happy to get our next morning on the morning of october -- our next meeting on the morning of october 14. i was going to go back and look at that meeting, assuming we only have three commissioners and a limited time. there are some items of ongoing timeline that would benefit with a full complement of commissioners. i will focus that meeting on anything that needs to happen that day. i believe there is also don pedro, a variety of things on going of interest that i will have to move to a meeting when we have five commissioners again. vice president vietor: that sounds fine with me.

there is one other item on there, the cac report. they have been working on this land policy question. we did go on this tour of the laguna honda site. if we do not have the report, and i believe they're working on a resolution, could that defaulted index >> ok. -- could that be folded in? > >> ok. the next item is other commission business. the only identified item associated with this, the commissioners can propose new agenda items if they wish, are the employee recognition and presentation of retirement certificates to two particularly outstanding and long serving mainstays of the sfpuc.

the general manager has the certificates behind his chair and brief summaries of their careers he can highlight. >> good afternoon, commissioners. we have to of our longstanding employees that will be retiring. the first is jon loiacono, who has worked for the city for 37 years as a public engineer. he has a depth of knowledge. he started as a junior engineer in may 1973. from 75 through 84, he worked for the clean water program, and was part of the design of the award-winning oceanside plant. he became the head section manager for a team of environmental engineers that started at the oceanside plant. a lot of work on that. the last decade, he was a division manager for a group of 35 engineers and technical

support staff who planned many multi-million dollar projects including the sewer system improvement project. we would like to thank jon for his 37 years and wish him well in his retirement. i will read the next one and ask you both to come up. the other person who is leaving us is peter deocampo, who has been with the city for 28 years. he started at the airport and worked there for two years before coming to the puc. he is the senior clerk in our contract group. he assembled bid packages, consultant contracts, invoices, and a variety of things. the most interesting thing is what he plans on doing after retirement, which included going to las vegas casinos, learning to dance, going to the philippines, bike,