sparks to help, and there was a meeting that was canceled just before the meeting was to take place. no one on this commissioner.-- commission has had a chance to talk to the chief of police. >> i think i will be able to help you out with that. commissioner meko: i had questions for the commander. i am a commissioner who represents the neighborhood and the city, and that is why i was talking to the police about this issue. >> and as it relates to the work group, i was designated to work with the neighbors, so i was working specifically with them,

-- commissioner meko: you work with city lights. if you could have a seat. you really cannot speak for the commission. >> i was only responding to the asian -- issues. commissioner meko: that is a whole other thing. >> i have worked with the commander to develop best practices. i just wanted to let you know that there was a component. the conversation is what commander crenshaw, and the

issue is in regard to developing this, you have worked with the staff of our commission, and you have worked with an industry representative of the commission, and you have not worked with a neighborhood representative of the commission, and the reason i bring this up is because one of the most important things that the entertainment commission introduced into this entire process, and i certainly have been involved for 15 to 20 years, so i know how things worked after an before, what we want to have is sunshine, openness. the industry background and seeing all of this is done. i think they would like to know how this process developed and where all of this came from. would you begin to draw in residents of the neighborhood and not ask the nightclubs to

pick representatives which represent the neighborhoods? -- or to represent the neighborhoods? that is offensive. >> this is a serious issue. we had serious homicides and shootings. since the police chief has come on, he has electrified community involvement. he has a community-based organization. chief gascon has committed every month. he has attended some himself, so we do address community concerns. i review them daily sometimes. the committee was not part of this necessarily on paper, but i want to take the suggestion.

commissioner meko: would you follow up on my request to meet with the chief? >> well, you did not make it with me. president newlin: point of order. i know you want to have a meeting with the chief, but this is not a point of order. >> i will address that issue. commissioner meko: thank you. president newlin: thank you, commander, and we go forward to working with you to get a resolution to this. thank you. is there any public comment on this? seeing none, we will move to the next item, item five, hearing

and possible action regarding applications for permits of the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. >> ok. you can call it if you want. i will call it. ok. commissioner joseph? ok. even without a quorum. there is shaw, jeremy, do a business as mission community market on bark-less street. this is about allowing or permitting amplified sound every thursday through july 14, 2011, from 4:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m. that is the application in front

of you. a little bit of background is that after having applied for a loudspeaker permit after obtaining a street closure permit, the permit in front of you is requesting this with various groups associated with the market and takes place on bartlett street between 21st and 22nd. while many residents support the market, and a bit concerned about the noise level. staff also received one email. there was an additional email that you will probably hear about in support of the application. the permit for your consideration is one that would

cover the time frame of the street closure, every thursday, like i said, mid july 2011. mission station was not able to send anything in writing but had some concern over these issues, which we heard about this evening, and there was concern about a gang activity on that block and any interaction that might happen with the music being amplified, so hearing from the applicant -- staff has a recommendation for you. >> jeremy shaw, i am the executive director at the mission community market.

there are things that may not be in your packet. first, i just wanted to paint a little picture of the market place for you. so three weeks ago, in front of what would be the graffiti stayed wallace of the mission market, usually blurry because drivers are rushing by it, i talked to two women who at been there for 10 years to the one block away from each other on barlick street. -- bartlett street. there were people dancing, to the delight of many people with groceries. everyone was beaming, and he

should have seen the crowd. the chance that the kids might not ever have, or it might be their first chance in public to perform. .and last week, i stood at different corners on bartlett street. the owner and tenant were both be made. the owner still had parking and his concerns addressed -- both were being -- beaming. this all happened at the mission community market, a marketplace that offers fresh food, provides a platform and a base for micro enterprise. it all happens to the delight of nearly everyone in the neighborhood, business owners, nonprofits, after-school programs, support from the

police, support from the supervisors, farmers, vendors, crafts people, students. it all happens at this marketplace, and with their revenue, they are going to be reinvesting for public space improvements. it is a forgotten block. it is the backside of buildings. there is graffiti, ok? there is trash. there are rats. we are there every week for making improvements to those conditions. and i would like to say that all of this happened after countless hours of volunteer effort with people from the neighborhood and local organizations talking, reaching out, and listening. we listen. we went around to the neighbors, and i talked to everyone who owned a business on that block, on neighboring blocks, and there

were concerns, and we listened. if there is access to grosz's, we clear it. hot foods, programming, -- a roscius -- garages, we clear it. i am sorry the bat is a problem, but i am confident we can find a solution. i am personally present at every market. when there is a band, i asked them to be quiet. when they get too loud, i ask them to be quiet again. they are open for feedback. my phone number is out there. my email is out there. i have not heard about the sound issue again until the last hearing. i live on guerror street, and i

do not have an alarm clock because i am woken up every day by the cars rushing by. that is a lot. bartlett and 22nd, there are cars, sirens. people revving their engines. that is loud. i understand. this is part of living in the city. but it is true and an unshakable fact. carrefour o'clock p.m. until 8:00 p.m., the community markets have set up shop on a gray, and graffiti riddled part of bartlett street. there is the smell of herbs and summer fruits in the area that usually smells like garbage. you can forget where you are for a moment.

local enterprise and entrepreneurs can sell their products, and people learn about new many people think that these are positive activities. these are all positive activities that have come through this year of collaboration and hours and hours of working with people and we are making our way towards success. they're not possible without amplified sound. they are not possible without a small stereo for kids to dance to.

we need amplified sound and power. we have work for this market because there are strong and after-school programs. that program is dependent on sound. we have performance, we have kids doing card activity. this is public exposure. you go to any farmer's market or any outdoor market in the city or in the bay area, they have sound. you need a positive place to bring customers. we have made a lot of promises

to the community. finally, this is essential for the community of venice. we have the announcements from the theater, we have student activities, all kinds of things that need a microphone. these are all elemental to the marketplace and that is the picture time trying to paint. this is built on a spirit of collaboration. that is what i'm here to address. we have supervisors support for the macintosh market place. -- for the marketplace.

the buddhist center, they are on that block. they have meditating monks to have classes during those hours. they are supportive, they are working through it. that is the market. i urge you to prove their permit on the basis of this sort of collaboration. >> do you have any questions? >> this is -- >> and normal street is 65 feet. they're building from both sides. i am all for it to committee

street stuff, marketplace, but when you have a tunnel, he have to have someone who knows how to do sound because these letters are calling your sound noise and not sound. can you tell me what kind of sound systems you used. >> i would like to avoid turning this into a referendum. >> can you give me an example? >> we have had amplifiers like this, larger speakers like this. >> you cannot tell me because you don't know, is that correct? >> what would you like me to say? >> i would like you to answer the question. >> i rely on other people to do the sound.

>> you are here asking us to give a permit to make this sound. can you control the sound so that this is not honorable 250 feet from the perimeter -- not audible 250 feet from the perimeter? he should not be able to hear it at the end of your perimeter. can you guarantee us that that will be the case? >> i think that that is possible. >> i think that we can give you the permit in this case. that is lot -- law.

>> we will hear from the public now. we ask you to come forward and get right to the point. >> we are very supportive of the farmers' market. this is a great community service. my window is right there and tell -- that right there. this is a quiet day -- this is a noisy neighborhood, not a quiet

neighborhood. plan supporters of the farmers' market. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. i will try to keep this brief. i work at the mission began. lima family organizer can tell part of my mission is to develop a space that is friendly to the use -- youth i am here today to support a resolution that will allow amplified sound that the market. i cannot emphasize enough how

you can have sound at the market. this area will create a positive outlook for you to few positive activities that are in power in -- that are empowering. we want them to showcase the wonderful talents that they have in their community before their families and their neighbors. oftentimes, they see a lot of negative stuff going on. there is not a lot of positive identities. you cannot have this without amplified sound.

the compromise is may be that this is within 4-6. i am very honored to have some of the children that have performed at the market and will be directly affected. >> welcome. >> hello, i am from the mission began program and are managed

and -- i think that this is important for us to play music because we have worked very hard and this is important for us to be able to show off our talents. >> what kind of music do you play? >> we play hip hop, r&b, lots of great dance music. >> thank you. >> this only happens on thursday. we are not taking away their whole time. this is for an hour and 30 minute. i think that you can have noise for an hour and 30 minutes.

if you want to take away from noise, are you going to take away the cars? >> okay. >> as i am totally supportive of markets. there is a lot of noise.

there's not much control and this is a concern for me. that is all i have to say. >> you live on the next block. >> yes. >> this is for once a week for four hours and one speaker said that the musically lasts about an hour and a half. would you say that is accurate? >> we have had accused of music the last few weeks. this has been fine. i cannot hear it from my house but i have been able to hear the amplified music.

>> thank you. >> they teach people how to massage the babies. this is natural, the amplifiers.

i prefer something more quiet >> the question that i have for you is how much time every week do you hear this? >> i don't know. i am not looked at the time. >> would you say an hour, two hours? >> i did not know. i was not listening. what about the accordion.

>> i am resident on partly -- bartlett street. before the organizers were aware that they needed a permit or they got a permit, there was a time when they did broadcast music. the first two or three weeks, i would have guessed the music lasted anywhere fahey from three hours or four windows. it was loud enough that had to close the windows to my house so i could watch television.

i and stand why they would want music that i've not heard anything either here or in discussions about why this was necessary. this deteriorates the quality of life for those of us who are there. what is appropriate, what laws are, what kind of equipment should be used. i am concerned above this because was there is a permit, the way to control the music, there have to be a lot of control. >> hello,