support of sro's. >> i don't disagree with that at all. that is why we are continuing with the project. i am grateful with that.

>> maybe there would be a configuration that brings in closer, maybe some have bathrooms, maybe some are shared. ththis is not a history of somee having this. if you are a tenant and you have convictions, then you would no longer be a tenant. that is a different situation. >> the motion on the floor for a continuance what the public hearing to remain open until december 2nd. >> aye.

>> aye. >>aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> the motion passes. what is the average size? i think 350 is the standard. for >> to be defined as this kind of unit, it cannot be more than 350 feet. most of them are actually smaller. >> the what an average of what it is, actually. >> i'm assuming since you did not speak on 19th street.

>> you are now on item number 20. case number 2009.03.68g. ahthose are for 673 brussels street. this is a mandatory discretionary review. >> good evening, commissioners. in regard to public comment, the project has made the mandatory notifications. the staff has received 21 letters in support of which there has been no opposition and no publicly initiative

discretionary reviews. the department disagrees with the assessment as noted on page 65. staff recommends that the commission take discretionary review and disapprove with the commission. -- and approve with the commission. the condition of the existing building was the result of deferred maintenance. that concludes the staff presentation. i'm available for your questions. >> there are numerous similar is between the two. what we found to be the biggest distinction is the perceived affordability. we found that the project is not

affordable and this could be an affordable unit because this was a close call. this was difficult distinction to make. the single-family proposal, this is maximum. this is a cautious recommendation on our part and this is a close call. we would like the commission to consider fully the arguments that a forward by the sponsor. >> thank you. >> project sponsor. >> good evening. the would like to thank you, commissioners, for meeting with us. it is never easy to be open about our first live let alone

with someone who has an impact on our lives and future. i hope that you have taking consideration of information we have provided so that you could understand why this project is more than just a dilapidated one store unit. this is a two-story building. i have a letter appended to the letters received from the neighbors who are in support of the project. perhaps this project is perceived simply as buildings that you have to beautify and improve the property value of the neighborhood. this will be home, our home. this city is where we want to

stay. my husband and night are sincerely requesting -- approval to construction. thank you, commissioners. >> good evening, commissioners. think you for your time. i come before you today to asked to approve the request and demolish the nonviable building. i am a native san franciscan. i have resided in north beach, chinatown, and colonel heights.

all my family lives and still lives in the city. san francisco is the only city i have ever known. at first, i was very hesitant. there was so much to do and i am not sure which place to start. at the time, the housing market was under decline and this is a great opportunity for us to buy a house and start a family. we can only be able to afford one or the other. two things helps me to decide, supporting my wife and my desire to be able to own a home and continue to live in the city. we took on the task of doing something with the property. this process has been an

emotional roller coaster. now we stand before you pleading our case. there are some anything's to say. we are not the previous owner of the property. there are restrictions on what you can do. i want to share something with you that is not documented. my wife and i are a very active couple and think we have a lot to offer the neighborhood. besides helping our neighbors get rid of the eyesore, the best thing my wife and i can bring is a sense of community. gathering signatures at the support of our project, many neighbors were looking towards this project to be done. some took the time to share stories with us about how we were always going to lend a hand to our in mons.

one man with sharing stories about the neighborhood and how he talked to people around the block. we must of talked for half an hour. i have to share some stories of my own. please note that we have the best of intentions. i hope be decided in our favor so you can't -- we can continue to live in the city. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. on the project architect -- i am the project architect. i would like to have approval for the demolition of the

subject building. the legal precedents for the property ownership followed. since this took place, the building was abandoned and left unattended. there are major leagues because of heavy rains. then the permit processing took enough time.

we are revising and resubmitting our plans to comply with the neighborhood character. this is the situation. we are still working and would like to have the plan to alter the existing building. using the existing foundation, --

being built to in 1908, the existing condition it is unstable. we're asking for your kind consideration because the others have been -- not to mention frustration and a desire to have a nice home to raise a family. thank you. >> thank you. >> is there additional public comment? if not, public comment is closed. >> i think that i am much more in favor of the demolition on

this one than i was on the earlier one. you have a house that is in much worse condition, you have a thousand square feet for the existing 1200. there is one factor in, this is way in the back. you have to walk through the kitchen to get to the bathroom. then the replacement of dwelling is hardly a leverage. it says 3000 square feet, i am surprised that it is that much. they have the kitchen and dining rooms on the lower level. i would speak in favor of approving this project.

>> is that a motion? >> seconded. >> i guess i am a little bit frustrated by the process because this is an rh1. there is a sound house, a desirable area for someone to purchase a home in. not that this should influence the decision but that was owned by four years by the family that decided to live there. if someone will ask for additional density, it should be because they will be giving something back to the city or more in conformance with existing, with code or zoning or whatever it is. here it is an rh-1.

you have a family who has owned this property since 1979. they want to expand or improve. it is the policy question. they want to make some improvement to continue to stay there. there is some kind of emotional attachment to the place. the family has owned it for 30 years. >> 31 years. vice president olague: i think this is a completely different situation than the one earlier. i do not see a contradiction in my even supporting this. commissioner sugaya: i would agree with that. sometimes you have to take into consideration things like the length of time the family -- i mean, the parents came and integrated. this was their first house, was

it not? they lived there, and now -- i do not know. it is just an emotional thing. i mean aside from all the planning issues that we are going to disagree with staff on. commissioner moore: i am normally 99% of my conviction that demolition is the thing to do, but based on what happened earlier today in this room, i have to support this project. otherwise i think i am going to have to render my own resignation. i cannot do it. >> there is no way to do anything other than demolish this. commissioner moore: i really ask staff to not put us in a situation that takes us further to have these projects be looked

at side-by-side. if the family has worked themselves to the point of for the cannot expand to be more reflective of their own situation, i think i support that. vice president olague: i think it is unfortunate that in the '90s when a lot of monster homes were being created, that we were not more diligent at the planning department level of looking at the underlying zoning. maybe a lot of the transformation of some of these neighborhoods from blue-collar to something different -- i do not know. i am not convinced we did enough with the issue in the '90s when this really happened. commissioner antonini: the other thing in terms of affordability, which is often a concern, why we try to save the older home and not demolish it, but to renovate that place and make it a functional house for a family

-- to add the bathrooms and square footage -- could end up costing more than the demolition and rebuild. you will end up with something that ultimately is going to be a more expensive residents because of the fact that you did not demolish it. in this case, you would find that would be the case. technically, we went to the numbers and said you could make it livable for less than 50% of the value, but you cannot improve it to the level it would need to be to satisfy family needs at that amount. >> the motion on the floor is to not take discretionary review and to approve the project as proposed. on the motion? commissioner antonini: aye. commissioner moore: aye. commissioner sugaya: aye. >> there is a unanimous vote for both. you are now in general public

comment. president miguel: is there any general public items on items not on the agenda? none appearing, public comment is closed and this hearing is over.

chair maxwell: good afternoon, and welcome to land use. we have got quite a crowd, so the overflow room is in the chambers, and you will be able to hear when we call names, and we usually wait, and if somebody comes, which usually allow them to get in line. we we usually allow them to get in line. i want to thank all of the people at channel 26 -- we usually allow them to get in line. i want to thank the people behind the scenes very much for their work. i also want to thank lisa so mera, who is our clerk. vice chair supervisor eric mar

and supervisor david chiu. madam clerk, i believe you have some things to say. clerk somera: please turn off of your cell phones. items will appear on a later agenda. chair maxwell: i believe we have an item that will be going to the board tomorrow, and that will be item number two. madam clerk, could you please read the first item. clerk somera: a special use district for 1800 market street. chair maxwell: welcome. >> i am here on the path of supervisor dufty. 1800 market is the lgbt center.

i know that some of you have been attending meetings and have spent time at the lgbt center. the idea behind this piece of legislation is to allow the center to consider through the process applications for potentially a restaurant use on the upper level, theater use and entertainment years. obviously, all of you remember that the board passed a loan allowing the center to give more financial flexibility, and what this piece of legislation is doing -- to have more financial flexibility. this is for another revenue stream for its long-term viability. this was brought to us by folks at the center and in the community, and, again, this is a nice modest piece of legislation that will allow the centre financial flexibility for their

long-term success. i am happy to take any questions. i know that rebecca, the executive director, is here, as well as a woman from planning to help us with the situation. chair maxwell: colleagues, any comments or questions? supervisor chiu? supervisor chiu: there is going to be an rfp process. we are simply passing so that it can have a use so we can figure out exactly who will go into the center, is that correct? >> yes. there has been no deal. and entertain the use of the theater has shown some interest, but like anyone else, they would be required to go through the rfp process. i think the supervisors have been looking at creative solutions during this difficult economic times. one that he has helped to establish is if you are familiar

with the tower records site. there was a pop-up store i believe on sunday, and all of the employees, a member from the transgender economic employment initiatives, so people who have been seeking jobs, another program which the city funds, they tend to work at the goodwill, so, again, another creative approach as we look at vacancies. chair maxwell: would you explain it to the public to may not know "pop-up store" and then "rte"? >> looking for a long-term tenant, and he is to open up the store so the good will could be there. good will, everybody knows what they do, providing jobs and job training -- goodwill.

teei, the transgender economic employment initiatives. some of the most underemployed, one of the most underemployed demographics, and nationally, something that the human services agency in our office has worked to focus on. chair maxwell: so pop-up stores are more of a thing we are seeing, people using these four properties that are underused or underutilized. >> certainly the merchants of copper market and castro's support it. -- the merchants of upper market and castro. bringing more people to the lgbt center is something we would like to see. chair maxwell: thank you very much. all right, why do we not open it up for public comment at this

time? why do we not hear from the director of the center? >> thank you, supervisors. my name is rebecca. i am the director of the lgbt community center, and i really appreciate your hearing this agenda item today. we really are excited about this project, which is designed to help our financial stability and to really look at ways we can have more order your note -- revenue and be less reliant on philanthropic dollars and on the city. as we all know, they tend to be very, very tight dollars as we move forward, so this is a process that was created to look for money outside of the traditional means of funding on profits. we're also looking at bringing in a potentially or ideally a tenant who would have some sort of linkage to the center's programs and services, so we have an idea of what that might look like. we have a wide variety of program areas, so we are looking at trying to great flexibility

and to make sure that the centre mission and purpose is also supported in this process, as well, as much as possible. an art director of health and wellness -- an art director of health and wellness can answer any questions. . and our director -- and our director. >> good afternoon. i am the director of health and wellness at the center. the key for the ordinance to greet the 1800 market street community center project special use district. " -- thank you for the ordinance. this is looking at offering programs and services for members in the community, it including unemployed transgendered individuals, and those who are at risk for hiv transmission. the center hosts 9000 visitors monthly and many programs.

most are residents of san francisco. this is across the lgbt and allied community. through our transgendered economic empowerment program, which have conducted 150 job placements. recently, the initials of "rc," she was except for her gender expression. she was still unemployed without housing and money. she applied for the goodwill pop up store, wrotand she is once an receiving credits. there is another who went on to take a leadership role in the hiv prevention. also, one young man from our stpr