it with a -- >> even in instances where a department may not have temporary salaries, they may develop a requisition for temporary salaries. there is not a way of adjusting the annual salary ordinance. >> i think, and i could stand corrected, that if you wanted to formalize this in the legislation, you could put some language in the legislation tussauds state that you want notification of the deletion of these positions. supervisor avalos: can we make approval conditional upon receipt of said notification?

>> you can make it conditional. we can work with the department of human resources to make sure that the positions have been transitioned to these positions or deleted. we have a current people's system where we can verify that the positions are no longer funded. supervisor avalos: [unintelligible] as far as the new positions are selected, candidates already? >> we have not. it is quite likely that temporary positions will interview for the full time positions. supervisor elsbernd: ok, cheryl. you can give us language that accomplishes what we are trying to get after here?

great. public comment on that? supervisor avalos: public comment on this item? seeing no one coming forward, we will close public comment. we will keep this open for more time and we will go on to the next item. supervisor elsbernd: i think we can just give them direction to do it. supervisor avalos: ok, subject to that language being inserted when it arrives at the board of supervisors. moving forward with full recommendation. supervisor elsbernd: as amended. supervisor avalos: can we take a five minute break before going to item number eight? we will be right back.

supervisor avalos: please call item no. 8. >> item #8, resolution authorizing the mayor to cast petitions in the affirmative for formation of the proposed civic center community benefit district, to sign on behalf of the city and county of san francisco as the owner of certain parcels of real property that would be subject to assessment in the proposed property and business improvement district to be named the civic center community benefit district. supervisor mirkarimisupervisor . >> good morning. per your request at the september 29 meeting, we are pleased to provide you with an update on the status of the petition phase.

since september 15, the committee has collected petitions representing 21.4% of the weighted support in the area. these petitions represent 30% of the support in the privately held in state held of buildings. the entire district includes city properties in the budget. if you look only at the privately owned and state-owned buildings, we have collected petitions of support of 30%. the committee is continuing to collect petitions. once they have reached 30%, they could introduce the board of supervisors resolution of intend. at this point, they are not there yet. i have included, in light of day

back at, a list of all of these petitions that have been received. it is a broad cross-section of the privately held buildings in the district. we have support from arts organizations, san francisco jobs, the ballet, the conservatory of music, supporting with properties from restaurants. [lists restaurants] there are residential properties in support. mercy of what housing, hardenea. this committee was created by a committee of pop -- private and public owners, so there is a broad cross-section of support so far. we have received responses in

support from all over the district, district -- different sections. some of the properties are owned by entities that have different layers of decision making processes. obviously those take longer than others to respond, the spending on the decision making structure. decisions received in opposition are also listed in the packet. 3.55% petitions opposed to the district so far. in terms of city departments under the board of supervisor jurisdiction, several have been briefed, taking a position to date. the library commission has improved in the -- and encouraged supervisors to participate in the district. city hall advisory has approved

within the district. as well as the recreation and parks commission, they would like to participate, understanding and is to the supervisors to make the final decision. we are visiting the war memorial for the trustees and other city and county enterprise departments. there is also a presentation that the mta parking authority board next week as well. the intent is to let all the property owners and city departments way in. supervisor avalos: with city departments and commissions that are proving the signing of these petitions, is there an actual legal requirement? can you summarize what it is for us to approve an get authorization for the mayor to sign a petition?

>> the parcels under the board of supervisors jurisdiction, attached to the resolution for your consideration, those parcels, supervisors would have to appoint a person, be it the mayor or the director of property, for example, to sign the petitions either in favor or against. the supervisors potentially -- the recommendation of the attorney's office was to have the board of supervisors on the petition, since they must pass the resolution for or against it. in my answering your question? -- m by answering your question? -- am i answering your question? they are also listed, i believe,

attached to the resolution. those are enterprise departments. mta, puc, war memorial board. supervisor avalos: asian art has already signed don? >> they have signed the petition. supervisor avalos: what remains in terms of a larger property owner signing the petition? >> who has not signed? supervisor avalos: in terms of a major property owner. >> that is not sitting down, correct? supervisor avalos: that is not city alone. >> the bank of america owns a building on market street between 11th and 10th. that is a property owner with a complex structure for decision making. they are in north carolina. we have kind of gone through the

local management company for responding, but they have to send it to north carolina for the final approval. supervisor avalos: i would imagine that with other community benefits district growing, what has been the history of their participation in san francisco? >> a good question. i would have to verify this, but the smaller branches did vote in favor of participating in that particular c b v. supervisor avalos: running up the corporate ladder as well? >> i would assume so. but sometimes the bank ownership changes since then.

i do not know if it is the same decision making structure that used to be. supervisor avalos: i am being told that they have not signed in west portal. citing a condition for one on to the other. any other major property owners that are pending? >> i am sure that there are. that would be one of the largest ones. there is a portion of the plaza that has not weighed in, owned by several entities. i know that one has weighed in,

but i am not sure that all the parcels have. supervisor avalos: there is a commercial side and a residential side? >> right. going down the list, we have broad reach. supervisor avalos: does the city on any property in fox plaza? >> we lease. the office plaza component has weighed in, but the residential component has not. supervisor elsbernd: are you just a leaseholder, mr. rose? [laughter] >> if i was owning the fox plaza, a supervisor, i would probably not be here today. supervisor elsbernd: i think you still would be. [laughter] >> we have received responses from the majority of a large property owners. really is that we're still getting responses for the rest of the district.

supervisor avalos: would you say that the predominant remaining are residential? the residential seems to be more opposed than the commercial side, correct? >> i could not make that general statement at this point. the significant residential buildings, they have support. i mean, honestly, i do not know if the majority are residential or commercial outstanding. i could find that out for you. supervisor avalos: we currently have existing city services to what will be provided by the community benefit district. i know that we have another time that we will approve it when it

comes to a vote. what do we expect to happen with the existing services being provided? are we talking about their baseline on top of that? or is there a plan that the cbc would replace workers and functions that the city currently has? that is also a consideration that we have about wanting to authorize. we are looking at a handsome services and how i have been promoting see media around the city, in my district and elsewhere. what is in the works? >> thank you for asking. that important point does come up in this district and others. under the state law, these services are beesupplemental.

not to replace existing services. additionally, the city cannot reduce existing services because of a special district. those are very clear. so, if anyone shows a correlation between city jobs and services being cut because of that, that is a problem. >> is that a requirement that the service not be cut in the area of the bid or for the entire city? >> you cannot cut services if a bid is in place. if you were to cut services city-wide ended did not have to do with the services provided, that is a different story. of course, you have the right to

make budget cuts in any given year. but those services are supplemental, above and beyond what the city provides. if you look at the nature of the proposed services, they have nothing to do with the city. the majority of those services proposed are not provided by any department. when you look at cleaning, that is probably the one with it the most similarities. they have to get the schedule of the vw services before they propose cleaning services. they cannot replace existing services. they do above and beyond what the vw would not do, which is sidewalk cleaning and the responsibility of the property owner. those are the types of cleaning services that cd can provide. supervisor elsbernd: but none of

those are being provided here? >> graffiti removal, yes. in one of the zones more intensely. in two of the zones, it is on call as needed. supervisor avalos: other services are being provided by the arts commission, those are all? >> that would continue. supervisor avalos: the question of cutting the budget city-wide, does that mean -- not that i want to -- that we have the ability to eliminate those services that could later be replaced by cb the services because we are making budgetary service decisions?

>> the ones in the plan cannot change. whatever is agreed to buy the property owner is the service it provides in the category. >> what -- supervisor avalos: what does that mean in terms of the asian art museum? they have security officers there. with security office to detail maintained. >> as they exist, they would remain. there are proposing, but part of the security personnel is part of the executive director's function. supervisor avalos: not considered a security challenge? >> activators are not security services, they provide multiple

services but do not replace building security, they grow them where to go, providing information and referrals to all of the people of the district. they do not replace building security. they do not stay posted. but they do and it would help right now the security system and it would remain at that level. supervisor elsbernd: you cannot

say that. you are talking about the cbc budget, but at some point some mayor is going to induce a prop j at the museum and the mayor is not precluded. am i right? and i wanted to be careful saying that this will never have been. >> what i meant to say was that the cut would not be and that is different, you are right. supervisor avalos: this memorandum we just got from recreations and parts opened my eyes, saying that this one will have to pay $32,000.

i love to know the total amount that they have to pay for fuel live to the city. if this little one is 32, i would love to know that number. i think it gets to what some of the chair is talking about. a quarter of a million dollars to the barge department is significant money. once these things are approved, we really cannot an inappropriate -- de-appropriate. so, i am merely starting to get hesitant with the process we have going on, where we do it one by one without stepping back to look at the big