they have solved the problem and they have stayed within the planning code. the planning director took an interest in the property. the proposed development has been of interest to me at all this year. i feel it is important that the planning commission is here on the design guidelines. i appreciate the fact that the developers have made certain provisions but the biggest problem has not been resolved.

this structure will tower over the joining structures. i respect the desired of the developers to maximize the floor space and therefore profit, i don't think that it should be permitted. >> speaker is in favor of the request. >> i am sorry, i am out of place i am here to support the people live on the upside. a i find it hard to believe that this is under consideration, a four story building in 82 story neighborhood. the neighborhood has been there for over 100 years.

this is a complete abuse of the privacy of the neighbors. >> hello, thank you for hearing us have lived at 41 scott street for the past 16 years. as we were talking about the allegations, it is important that the sponsors contend that there are many four story buildings. where we live, they are all two stories over a garage. from the back of the building, they are one and a half to two and a half stories tall.

these are the photographs of the back yards. you can see that there is a variance between the two stories and one and a half stories and four of those are underground. i happen to have a third floor that was added. the homes are relatively small from the back of the building. in terms of the landscaping, there is 18 feet of vegetation. as you can see from both ankles

, and you can see that there's plenty of vegetation there. if you can look at these photographs, this is the view from four-story apartment building. when i looked out my windows before, i could not see out of the house at all. this was all green. they wanted to keep this. this is looking to the back. these trees here i mention that they are on bill lot line --

they are on all lot line. this is the apartment building. they have a staircase penthouse. the only one on the block. what we would propose is which they build instead, would they do it is a submerged access to the roof. thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners. i live at 34 boyd street and i had been there since 1998.

i object to the project as proposed because this is grossly out of scale. this does not meet the residential design guidelines. the project is nearly 50 feet tall with the penthouse. might building is only 32 feet high. i believe that three stores would be better suited to to the community. i want to bring an issue that cannot on the property. here is a few of 35 lloyd street. there are a couple of blue cedars on the front here is the

view from the front. this tree has been over print, these are significant trees. the project sponsors came in and they trimmed this tree back so it looks like this. what they have done to the tree is that this is a blue atlas mountains cedar. 28-30 feet tall. according to the arbor, the tree was mutilated.

the department of urban forest in issued a fine for illegal pruning and removal without a permit for nearly $3,000 and this is being protested by the budget sponsor. one significant tree was not noted in the tree disclosure statement. when it was brought to the developers attention, the tree was immediately removed. >> we reside at 38 lloyd street.

we are needed to the neighborhood. we moved in about five years ago. one of the reasons that we moved here was because of the victorian architecture. we love the feel of the neighborhood. when we met the neighbors and we saw the condo, this was a place that we wanted to raise our family. we want you to consider the design of the proposed construction. we take great pride in the architecture of the neighborhood of our home. we want to maintain that. we are very proud of that.

in addition to the design, the size of the proposed project will completely blocked all of our sunlight into our building. we ask that you consider this in making your decision. i want to thank you for your time and to point out that we have probably about another 20 neighbor is in support of this. we have a fantastic group here this evening they had to go home and attend to their families.

the blue dots per all of those that are in support of our request. there read it is the single support of the construction. i would like to point that out, and thank you for your time and i hope that he will consider our request. >> good evening, commissioners. i am a native san franciscan and a longtime resident of the proposed triangle neighborhood. for 26 years, i have lived on an apartment building. -- in in an apartment building.

partially below street level and three floors on top. it has no rooftop deck or penthouse or rear garden. it is located across the street from the harvey milk recreational center and davey's medical to the south. none of the structures, including the hospital within three story garage north and south towers and physician's offices raise issues or cast shadows on the residential neighbors like those projected to impact lloyd street. however, i believe thoughtful urban planning and effect of design modifications and spatial awareness can mitigate these concerns, embrace diversity in architect tchur and preserve the neighborhood's unique identity. i urge you to give so the r-thought to a long-term solution that we could all get behind. please take discretionary review and limit the height of this

proposal to three stories. thank you. >> good evening. my name is janice mitchell. i lived at 49 scott street. for 13 of the 23 years i have ianed 49 scott street, i lived with an architect who frequently spoke to san francisco's very tough requirements to make design changes because the city was determined to preserve the world famous and unique beauty of its neighborhoods. now -- knowing lloyd street, i understand the narrow empty lot that was a lovely neighborhood garden filled with trees is about to be dried by a massive ugly monstrousity far taller than the rest of the neighborhood with no concern for the irreparable damage it'll do to the style and the victorian beauty of that rare and lovely

block. the one block narrow lloyd community will lose its cohesive character, dozens will lose their privacy with windows peering into their bedrooms and gardens, including mine where i sit on my small deck enjoying the sun. i will lose hours of sunlight because of the absurd height of the building. my garden will be destroyed. my enjoyment of my deck will be ruined. this is not the mistake of someone constructing the terrible building to live in and join our community. it is built by two outsiders only interested in selling and making a bundle quickly with no regard for the destruction to the neighborhood. the -- because the lot is narrow, the plan to go a minimum of one floor too high plus build an overly large roof penthouse that will be an eyesore visible from multiple vantage points in the city. it will stick out like an ugly

sore thumb. our neighborhood has attracted numerous tour buses driving down scott street many times a day, a great source of tourism revenue for the city. this tall burning like edifice which pays for heed to beauty will greatly detract from our old and unique neighborhood. i intensely oppose the city's condoning the erection of this investment property. i'm shocked and dismayed that those given the power to decide what may be constructed in a city would even consider such a blight to the character of the area, we all love so much. i can't help but ask myself why city officials would allow so many individual homes and apartments suffer and lose what is so special about living here. al huing this grievous error permission to be built cannot but help me -- help me question those i long trusted to preserve what is great about san francisco.

thank you. >> ladies and gentlemen, my name is andy nathan. i appreciate your time. i know it is late. i know that sometimes this gets boring too. but -- the people that it is for the boring to are the people that have -- have dedicated the weeks and the months of their lives meeting on a weekly basis to discuss the issues that affect their neighborhood, the issues that affect their families and the issues that affect lloyd street. i have to tell you i find myself somewhat of an impartial member because i have just been the houseguest for the last six months of living with those that live on lloyd street. i vacationed in san francisco

many times. i'm an architecture student. i really appreciate their neighborhood. i also have to say i'm the son of a contractor. i appreciate development. i think the people of the neighborhood also appreciate development. they feel like development should be in its proper standard. and -- i don't think in in my discussions with -- with anyone in that neighborhood, they have argueded that someone should not build on that piece of property. i think their question is what -- what should be built on that piece of property. i think it is challenging for people who have gardens and homes, who have families to -- to to look at that piece of land and look at it, and -- their minds to be -- to be something that could potentially debt represent what they have worked so hard for to -- to work for,

to build, and the neabd is -- is what it is. i believe in -- in development. i believe if everything that they -- they are striving for, but i think all they're asking for is there's some consideration in -- into what is being built there. that's it. i appreciate your time. and -- and i hope that you consider their efforts. >> good evening. my name is kenth carrie katterland. i live at 51 lloyd street, two buildings just uphill from the proposed project. i actually prepared a little

more notes but given the time i will speak for myself and my partner so we'll have one less speaker. here, you could see the current view from our kitchen window, this is the only window in our property, that doesn't look either at a street, or street -- straight into the windows of our neighbors. what you could see below is what -- that window will look out at if the project is proposed as built. one place in our home that has privacy, will no longer have any privacy whatsoever. this is extraordinary and exceptional. this also demonstrate that is even though there are two lots downhill from us on a 24% grade, you drop bigger -- you're going almost as high as our building if not higher. that's atrocious. the other two items i passed out, i won't put on screen at

the moment show you how the plans submitted with the notice are inaccurate. i can't from those plans decide whether -- whether what they're doing is going to work or not. it doesn't show the penthouse, it doesn't show any of this above the roof line above the building next door to us. fortunately mr. volcker when he was putting together models was able to produce this for me, so i could see what is actually going on. this is not a concern to me or to my partner, or the land lady who is in europe to the neighbors in the building who have in the been able to be here tonight because of other reasons. but it is just a manger impact on the entire neighborhood. i request that you take this -- take this discretionary review that you remove the fourth floor, that you possibly remove the roof deck. i realize my neighbors accept that, roof decks aren't fes ces or -- or frequent in this area, while the planner in their

reports to you said, roof decks are accepted in different neighborhoods in san francisco. that may be true because, but in this neighborhood, they're not. in this neighborhood. this -- this lot -- this neighborhood has historic context, the first gay person to be named to the board of supervisors lived in the house immediately north -- to the -- to the -- to the courts of san francisco. judge doonaledson lived in the house above this. he was instrumental in the 1960's that -- that -- that new year's eve that you may know about where a fight occurred. he wases thrown into jail and his career was -- was challenged by this. there's historic context here that is not referenced in the e.i.r. document. i would ask you to take discretionary review and lower the building and consider the neighborhood's and its contents.

>> there are additional speakers that say -- favor the dish d.r.? >> i live behind the proposed project in a hot a couple of lots removed from it, i opened the building for 39 years. my only previous experience with -- with planning and construction was when i -- i realized my -- my little landing out in my -- my back door on second floor needed some repair, had to replace floor boards. and the railing and some stair treads. in the process, i thought it would be an opportunity to expand the -- the width of the little landing enough to put a chair in. i added 14 inches to it. but i didn't take into

consideration the impact that little -- that addition would have on my neighbor who -- protested. for the next 18 months, i was producing drawings, detailing exactly the extent of the addition i had put on. and also a set of traugs showing the -- the original dimensions. and presented those to the neighbors and went through the processes of getting approval for what i had done. the approval was not permitted. since i hadn't really considered the impact that little work might have on my neighbors, so i i -- i sended unhaving it -- to -- to, dismantle the workly done and recon struct according to the original dimensions.

which presented an impact on my neighbors, many of whom are here. i think -- i think it convinced me the hard way of the importance of being considerate of what -- of what impact we might have by -- by new construction. i think in the -- in the current case of the -- of the enormous project on lloyd street, which -- which we have heard from a number of people have quite an impact, now i walk down to my garden and have a -- a good deal less view of the sky and the beautiful gardens and -- neighboring me. when i'm down there, the extent of sky and -- and greenery that i see would be greatly impacted by the addition of this enormous

structure. so i -- i hope that the commission gives similar consideration to the case at hand. thank you so much. >> my name is michael, together request my wife rose who is here, we owned and lived in six lid street for the last 18-plus years. we raised two girls there. it was a home built in 1894 as a wedding gift to the -- to the daughter of the owner of the corner property on scott street. we're very proud of it. we had spent $45,000 trying to do a historically appropriate restoration of the exterior alone. there's a tremendous amount of pride in our neighborhood and i define our neighborhood as lloyd street. it is very close, tight-knit

community there. and i -- i think the importance of slope on lloyd street is -- is pronounced because both right above on castro and below on scott what you have are -- essentially level streets. and so, i think we are -- we are conceding that we're maybe a little bit gentler than elizabeth, but -- it is a 24 degree slope. i see no principled way of distinguishing this issue from the issue before you on that block. the massing of this project at 50 feet is -- is completely out of context and exceptional circumstance that does warrant the discretionary review consideration for all of the same reasons. i also appear before you today to indicatenie concern about process here. we have an e.i.r. that said no

more than 40. you heard about the -- about the 311 notice issues. as i understand it, the record is that it was september the 8th that the first rendering showing this -- this 50-foot penthouse was submitted to the mapping department which approved the project the next day. we have a developer who has been through -- as this commission knows, some very bruising projects. i know from my own profession as a trial lawyer how people involved in that can somehow be callous to process going forward. there has been too much fast and loose here. as mr. denuncio arctic hated well, it does appear there has been not just a hack of good faith in approaching this neighborhood but maybe a touch of vindictiveness in a way in which this has progressed. it raises very significant concerns and it is all regrettable, i believe it is all unnecessary. i have met with these people and meff once did i hear a neighbor say, we don't want anything

built here. these people believe in infield and the importance of it as an urban planning as a moral proposition, this place is too big. we ask you to accept the request for d.r., remove that fourth floor on the penthouse and allow this play to be consistent with the rest of the neighborhood. thank you. >> good evening, president miguel and commissioners. representing the neighborhood network, sometime ago, a couple of months ago, i think it is now, the neighborhood network met with lloyd street neighbors, this is all very new to them. and they sdd us for some advice, and we gave some. prior to our meeting with em this, i went to see the site, it was -- i was really impressed but when i saw the proposed plans, i said to myself, these

plans were produced without anyone even seeing the -- the lot. how could anyone design such a massive out of scale inconsiderate project that maximized the envelope. the project showed no respect for the victorian enclave, completely incompatible in your face. it is an insult to the neighborhood. at the very most this evening, i hope you will -- insist on the removal of the fourth floor and i would hope that the decks would go too. thank you. additional speakers in favor of the d.r. requesters? >> president miguel, the commissioners. >> thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak in front of you. my name is sammy.