if it is a lot of work to say to do it now -- but what i would like to know is to see all of the money that we are spending. i need to know about the small school differential. these kinds of dollars that come mainly from restricted funds or unrestricted funds, i just do not have a sense of that, in addition, an evaluation as was just referred to about the valuation of the whole initiative, it will also include a financial assessment, -- not all of the money is identified by looking at the school budget.

i need to know how much that is so i can get a sense of how much this applies. we know that the whole idea is to serve small groups of students in a different way, so that needs to be part of our assessment. we're doing that in our data free environment right now. i need more data, and i need some of it to be financial. thank you. >> services will have to be

delayed, and i am also curious why we are doing this six weeks- eight weeks into the school year. are we looking to hire these positions, or are we finding the continuation of these positions? and i want to welcome mr. alexander. >> thank you, commissioners. i can respond to that, but just briefly, we do very much welcome the questions around evaluation and data, the media report that commissioner norton referred to. it had some big inaccuracies in them, and i have never seen the numbers that commissioner wynns asked for. i think that would be very helpful.

and our dropout rate is really less than the district average. i say we do welcome -- the data review is good for all of us, and we welcome it, but in terms of this resolution, this is very similar to the resolution that you all approved last year and the year before that, into -- and to pull it right now would be disruptive. the rfp process under another superintendent, -- these are not district positions for these services, and they are essential services to our innovative way of providing support to students, and they essentially

pay for part of it themselves, so they are doing part of it now. to answer your question specifically, they are being employed by the nonprofits to pay that portion, so we would respectfully request the while we will definitely do all evaluations, we not pull the item around the consultants. >> madam chair, if the board is so inclined, the job and do the job description, that is another option that you of available to you, as well. >> and also wanted to suggest that we could call this item for the december curriculum committee, because i think that we have also had another, so we

would also like to hear from them, too, and is there another? it would be great to have those schools for the curriculum meeting. vice president mendoza: deputy superintendent? >> we can work together to provide a more comprehensive report for the board, but since it does have your attention right now, i did want to clarify in terms of the state budget, the ssd's equivalent level of sight based resources they would otherwise get if they were not, with the exception of funding of

up to 7 professional development days, so that really is the most significant resources difference in terms of funding versus one that was exactly the same type of school but was not designated. i just want to make that point, and that we can provide more comprehensive report after the meeting. vice president mendoza: commissioner wynns? commissioner wynns: et there used to be a small school differential, not just in small schools for design, because they basically did not have enough students to provide for a principal. that is the base funding. we give that to every school. they would have enough funding. we have some way of teasing that

out? we used to call it a small school support, but now we just call it the base funding, so we do not have any way of finding out what that is on a per pupil allocations? >> we do. your respective of the number of students or the size of the school -- irrespective of the number of students or the size of the school. it is not differentiated for a small school versus a large school. it is the same amount commissioner wynns: . -- it is the same amount. commissioner wynns: i do not know how to -- i understand that we cannot any longer just say that there is a differential, so i would like to try to figure

that out, just by may be looking at how many schools we have. i understand it they are not all small schools by design. i want to make that clear. not that we have created a new small school, just that we have schools that are small. to figure out what the specific costs of that may be. vice president mendoza: ok, thank you. cobbing scum interested on voting on this contingent upon your review, .-- colleagues, interested on voting on this contingent upon your review, so roll call, please. secretary: [reading roll] that is five ayes. vice president mendoza: k-12.

right, so this is -- since you pulled it, i do have a comment. i do not want to see retroactive resolutions, and the explanation for this once again is funny not available before the date of service. if we do not have the funding, we cannot have the school. i want to be very, very clear about retroactive resolutions, so if there are any other comments on that? >> thank you, commissioners. we have actually revise the way we proceed, and i apologize for that. reviewing all of the budgets -- vice president mendoza: excuse me, could you identify yourself? >> i am sorry. i am -- the contract was written

for a 29 -- 2009-2010 was not right. that more money be contract it, that was not done, pa and it basically for the bill for the entire year. this is an attempt to note -- to repay them for the academic year last year. commissioner wynns: now i am concerned about that, because that makes it a lot worse, so that makes a potentially totally wrong. >> exactly, and that is definitely my fault. there were actually two resolutions that were drafted before this particular board meeting, and this one

accidentally made it, so there was one that explained it thoroughly, and i would be happy to provide that to you. commissioner wynns: i hate to say this, because this is retroactive, but this should be brought back. i am not willing to vote for something that is inaccurate. we are putting in the record, and that situation that we owe the money from last year, it can be a contract for this year, but it has to say that this is money that we owe them for last year, and this is a different contract. >> it is not necessarily new, but we felt there were other ways to rectify that in the past, and this was our attempt to try our best. >> whether it was a k resolution, i am not sure how it was done, but this is my attempt. this is current, and this is just funds used in the past.

now, part of the reason why i thought this was going to be ok is that we have 18 months to use those funds. we do have the academic year, so, technically, this is still current according to the california department of education. commissioner wynns: then the term of this issue before last year. it should be really retroactive. -- then the term of this is truly for last year. >> a handful of others that are similar. commissioner wynns: i would have staff postpone this so that we can fix this. thank you. >> it sounds like we also have a current contract, and it seems

to me that we have already started services on the after- school program, so you're going to be presenting us with two red director of resolutions. >> also, the new contract is for just this year. each of our school sites, or at least a high-school, is awarded -- any resolution that is reflective of that is just for the 2010-2011 academic year, which started on august 16. >> correct, which makes it retroactive. i am not going to say what i really want to say. this is so frustrating. if they have no idea of how to present this to us in a way that is accurate, then we're going to

start denying these, so if we could please provide this support to our programs to make sure that these are taken care of, and i am going to recommend that we pull this item in bringing back with the correct information. vice president mendoza: thank you. commissioner wynns: i think the record should show that this is being removed, because we do not want it to come back at all, so there will not be a second reading of this item. can we not just removed it? -- remove it? >> we are going to withdraw this. we're going to withdraw this

reso until the next board meeting. vice president mendoza: so that was item p. item q, superintendent's proposal for first reading, the approval of revisions to board education policy p120. i need a motion and a second. commissioner wynns: so move to vice president mendoza: . -- so moved. vice president mendoza: item r, closing the opportunity gap, adopting a vision statement

policy to establish sfusd school facilities as public assets that support our strategic plan and our community. i will speak with present -- president kim. did you want to speak? you do not have to if you do not want to. >> the equality of opportunity is a way of saying that there are other things in life instead of -- in place of just schooling or academics, but it takes a lot of things to get a child ready for school and through school successfully, and i appreciate that this has been brought forward, and i look at a lot of the things that have been phased in toward the end, and i am pleased to see it, and i think this is a great resolution for the entire district. i commend you. vice president mendoza: thank

you. item s, board members' reports. commissioner wynns? commissioner wynns: we met on october 13, and we had the following items, the transportation policy being the big issue, and the outreach and rieker and plans for the 2011- 2012 school year, so i want to do a couple of games. the presentation i believe that we had at the committee is on line. we did specifically ask for it to be put online. in particular, the transportation policy is something that we're very interested on getting feedback on.

postponing this until december in order for it to go through committee and to have been put it from the community on this issue, -- to have input from the community on this issue. we have heard from the parents advisory council tonight about the recommendations for the redesign of transportation. i am just going to say a few things about it, and it will lead a major impact in the district -- it will have major impact in the district. there will be a baseline of transportation which will be significantly less than we currently have. one of the recommendations is that we reduce from 44 buses to 25 buses. that will result in many, many

fewer routes and trips being provided to students and to families, that we phase out these roads and stops over the next three years and phase in some new things that are being recommended by staff to meet our goals, and those goals include providing transportation to racially isolated schools that have traditionally been underenrolled, creative person relent -- create diversity -- to reverse -- create diverse enrollment, and the second area of reduction of the staff is proposing we adopt to be phased in over three years is a severe reduction in transportation after-school programs, so that is a big deal. we really, really what members of the public to comment on that, to think about the, -- to

think about that and give us feedback. i want to commend the parents advisory council on their comments, because it will have a huge impact. it is probably needed just based on updating and on our desire to spend less money so we can focus more on the classroom, so we have another meeting on november 8, the ad hoc committee, and we will have more specific information and get feedback from the board, so all of you have received the presentations that we got, i believe, at the meeting, but everybody has got in the presentation, and this is the time now to give feedback to re-staff on these proposed changes to the transportation policy and also for the public to do that, so that is the

transportation plan currently in development, and second, i just want to take a moment, the other was about outreach comment and there is also in the presentation and outreach plan, which we thought were very good, which includes a number of things which are not new this year, and we will be trying to gather information and be able to navigate a new system. november 13, as you all know, will be the attendance fair. you can see a list of the so- called discovery workshops. i am holding in here. you cannot see it, but it is on the website. this will go through january 29. there will be a mobile educational placement center in a bus. i think that is kind haute -- kind of cool, and there will be

an opportunity for people to file their so-called satellite collection, to put in their applications not only here but at other locations. all of that is also on the website, and there are a number of other things in the plan that are there, so i want to thank the staff as well as the public. i see some representatives are still here. thank you very much. and just to say that this has been a long, difficult process. i think the staff work has been exemplary. the committee meetings have been really good. we have gotten a lot of good feedback. we will continue to work on this, and i encourage all members of the public to really pay attention to this. thank you. vice president mendoza: thank you. and, needless to say, we will continue to have meetings of the

ad hoc committee. commissioner wynns: the next one is november 8. vice president mendoza: a report from the city and school districts elect committee, with commissioner fewr, -- fewer, commissioner kim, and myself. social workers for our students that are being touched by multiple departments and about shared data. claude b. anderson from the school district was present and were sharing with us what the protocol was on the school district side, and we and others who were sharing the work, so we're going to continue this conversation about how we can be better at sharing data and streamlining information that

comes to both sides. a report from the augmented ad hoc committee on personnel and dashon labour relations, commissioner -- on personnel and labor relations, commissioner? commissioner norton: it has been quite positive. i am just looking for my notes. we had a report on the new teacher project staffing, and i cannot find the notes right now, but it was very positive, and we are building our capacity to recruit teachers in some of our highest in the areas. we also heard some issues related to secretarial, custodial, in mailroom services that work clarified for us, -- and mailroom services, and the local gave us a report, which

now both sides of declared an impasse. would you like the work was committee report? -- the rules committee report? we did hear a legislative overview, not a lot of legislation in front of us. we did get a little bit of a report on moving the hvac -- moving the age back on kindergarten. there are going to be some effects. 18 is monitoring this -- a team is monitoring this. we also have a report from susan wong, and this is really going to be a great effort. they are working on a contract right now, and at the end of the year, we should have updated

policies complete the online, searchable -- completely online, searchable. it seems like a small thing, but she is doing great work. and finally, we had a small change to the board rules. it was for first reading, and it will be for second reading next time. there is not going to be a meeting for the rules, policy, and legislation committee until january. vice president mendoza: thank you. item t is a report of those things in closed session. the board voted by two ayes and -- the approve the expulsion of

one high school student, wrote -- they approve the expulsion of one high school student -- they approved the expulsion of one high school student, j.w. commissioner yee: i just came back from a conference, and i would just quickly summarize. it was kind of an interesting time to go there because the mood was very somber. it just seemed like nobody knew how to move forward with their items in the agenda, and everybody was just sitting around, waiting for their election to happen, how to react to it. they did mention the children's nutrition reauthorization coming

up. there will be a slight increase in reimbursements of about 30 cents, and most people sitting around the room were pretty upset by that. this will really not help urban schools. there were some workshops related to bilingual and immersion programs and recruitment in developing a pathway to being a teacher to and so forth. i would like to say for that particular amount of workshops, it makes me so proud of san francisco in terms of what we are doing. our immersion programs, are pathwayso -- ur path -- our pathways. that was the discussion we have

like 15 or 20 years ago. the other i went to was a bit more informative for me, and in light of the fact the we just had an audit, i went to some workshops related to special ed, and one was fairly good presented by the baltimore school district, and basically when i listened to their audit and other audits, when they talked about boston in austin, but baltimore really really has a similar type of findings that we find. almost every district has similar findings, it seems like, but baltimore has been added for a few years, and they are basically a few years ahead of us -- but baltimore has been at it for a few years. it for a few years. we might be thinking like this