decision with that or got uncomfortable with the numbers yet. in the long run, what the agency intends to do is utilize our staff to maintain the equipment. if we employ an extended maintenance. through the contractor, we intend to, throughout the normal hiring process, those that we are bringing on board and training emphasizes the contractor learning the system so that at that point when the maintenance time is over, we can supervisor chiu: take overchiu these talk -- over. supervisor chiu: these talk about the operation and maintenance of these copper cards for the historical vehicles in the city. >> i would like to defer to greater green power on that. supervisor chiu: it is very

confusing right now, especially for regular cable car writers. >> cable cars can be incorporated when we have a device that can read the card on the cable card. they are historical vehicles, so the opportunities to put the cart on their was unavailable. they are looking for a next- generation of hand-held readers, which in addition to the ability to read the card, can actually debit from the card, so that in addition to supporting the monthly passes we can deduct them from the reader and introduce products like our passports, which are currently not available as well. it is a part of the plan but it will be delivered and i guess that mtc can talk about supervisor chiu: reschedulingchiu -- can talk about that. supervisor chiu: will that be

rescheduled for november 1? >> since it is a changeover from the ticket their fire, it looks like it will probably be august through october of next year, if we can get everything in place. if i could step back to give you some groundwork, the cable cars were going to be the last element of the infrastructure that was dealt with for the clipper system. primarily because they did not have electrical systems that would support a fixed card reader. a fixed target. at the time, the original contractor had a hand held components that fair inspectors use. those were read-only, not read- write. you need a handheld component machine that can write and deduct fares. which is part of the change that they're working through to

develop right now. supervisor chiu: if i am currently a pass holder and a ship to a clipper card, what happens to that passenger? >> they will be able to flash their card until such time as we can set policies in place that make the use of a card easier. supervisor chiu: ok. great, thank you. any other representatives that wish to present? should we proceed to cut -- proceed to public comment? >> we are ready for public comment. supervisor chiu: i look forward to working with you moving forward on these. supervisor chu: let's item -- opened this item up for public comment. are there any members of the public that we should -- wish to speak -- wish to speak on this item number nine? >> walter paulson.

♪ on a stormy sea we talked about confusion for the motion in the ocean with me hoping that it works out like it should and hoping that we all work out something fine and that mean will work with every line. carry on with muni, which is good. it will work out like it should. please do not cry any more. we are just clipper ships from the muni that pass at night time and i want to hit a high high where we need to bride so that we can work out what is great for everyone, like a clipper ship, a ship that likes to pass at nighttime, we are simply ships that pass at i

working on this. i had a quick last question for the mtc. are there resources that will be provided to the mta to help us implement this? these talk about the support you are providing on that level. >> it does give me an

opportunity to follow up on leadership and those things. muni is the leader on this but the mtc is fully behind it. our commission has had its troubles. this has been a tumultuous task. but the commission is so behind this and we want to make sure that our resources make this a success. certainly as far as that transition, we had a great meeting last week. strategy's were in place to supplement what they saw as gaps in support. things that were just ideas on monday, friday be finely worked out contract approaches. we are continuing to work with them to read out by the particulars of the question. do we have sufficient support for limited english proficiency?

we will be looking at those strategies to make sure that they're used in the most appropriate way. subsequent impasses in the fall and spring, those are still in the works and we recognize that they will probably require equal amounts of support. we do fully expect that we will be their support and the mta on this. supervisor chiu: from the perspective of many of us on the board, i think we are rooting for various agencies to be very effective in their hassle free implementation. whenever my office can do to be helpful, we look forward. i would like to ask that we can continue this item at the call of the chair in case we would like folks to come back to discuss issues down . supervisor chu: thank you to the department's for coming to present. since supervisor chiu: is now

part of the commerce committee, we have quorum to take that action and continue the meeting. let's go ahead and continue this item to the call of the chair. without objection. ok, are there any other items? >> supervisor chu: nochu ok, -- >> no. supervisor chu: ok, we are adjourned. thank you.

i would like to call the meeting to order. >> [roll call] president crowley is excused attendance. the next item is approval of the minutes. he has requested that it be moved to the next meeting when there will be a quorum of commissioners to approve those minutes. the only item up for approval

would be the minutes of september 28, regular meeting for any additions, corrections, revisions. commissioner vietor: all in favor? september 28 minutes are approved. we will continue october 15 minutes until the next meeting. the next item please. >> members of the public may address the commission on matters that are not on today's agenda. we have no speaker cards at all. commissioner vietor: next item. >> communications. i do apologize, however, in the staff report, there was a staff report item report on the water

system. i misunderstood what it was. it will be listed at the next meeting if you wish to discuss that item. commissioner vietor: any questions on communications? seeing none. >> does any commissioner have any new or other business items to take care of? commissioner vietor: go giants. >> i will second that. commissioner vietor: moving on to the report of the general manager. >> good afternoon, commissioners. we just have one item listed. we would like to do that right now. >> on your events calendar, we listed by returning to you to fill you in on how we are doing

on the update of the resource plan. when i reported to you last, we had the rocky mountain institute draft plan written. we launched a green deck advisory committee -- tech advisory committee that is expected to be under review this week. we are hoping to come back to you on november 9 assuming that the review process goes well. we will get back to you than with a full report with an update of the electric resource plan and on to the board of supervisors. we are proposing through the committee, they are proposing specific legislative changes to improve the climate here in san francisco for implementing green technology in san francisco

that generate electricity or save energy. the next -- the next meeting will be at the board of supervisors. commissioner vietor: it will be on the agenda for the next meeting to review and discuss? >> assuming that the review process gets to the point that it is ready. commissioner vietor: will clean energies to words be participating? >> we have scheduled a meeting to review the report on november 1. we attempted to get that input before we come before you. commissioner vietor: thank you very much. >> i passed out a memo on proposition 26 and the possible impact.

it is just for informational purposes. if proposition 26 passes, we will discuss the potential impact to san francisco puc. it was signed back in september. we are just monitoring the situation and trying to determine what might be the potential impact on us. and i have nothing else in the general manager report. >> [inaudible] >> it is like a series of questions right now. we will talk about that. these will be treated the same way as taxes.

right now, they are approved by the majority vote of the local legislative body. commissioner vietor: any public comment on the general manager's report? >> they are trying to fix the screens. >> is it because the computer is blood in? >> i think it has something to do with the feet from -- feed from sfgtv. >> can you check the computer? is that -- >> apparently, something downstairs in the control room -- they were having problem with

the controls before the meeting. i just alerted them. commissioner vietor: the next item is item number 8. >> but the live feed isn't showing up. ok. >> i will not need the computers. i wanted to make a comment about a letter that was sent to the commission on october 13. our letter was based on the review of the wsip annual report. scope, schedule, and budget. we wanted to cover our comments

and recommendations. it was resolved at the special meeting a week and a half ago. everything was in budget and we are pleased with that. in terms of the award of the construction contract, savings are reprogrammed to cover expenditures necessary in other projects. we have no problem with any of the cost increases for the projects we have seen today. they have all been for necessary items, permit issues, and so forth. they have not been due to somebody taking their eye off of the ball. the concern that i wanted to share with you in the letter is

that it would be important to track the change orders against the savings. just so that the commission and the public staff is comfortable that there is enough money retained for each project. how you do that is something -- which did not know schedule compression. what you approved in 2009 shows a couple of projects under construction in 2015. the current forecast shows six projects under construction. the question is, does that cause a compression of

schedules -- does that compression of schedules cause difficulties? following your adoption of the current schedule, the commissioners made a comment about that. the excellent piece of work, staff capabilities, and so forth. there was a clean bill of health. the one comment is, it has never been tested. any suggestion -- the suggestion is that you keep watching that. given the schedule compression, we would recommend that you perform a comprehensive review. whether the mechanisms you have

in place still seem adequate, it is a very reasonable question to pose. the bottom line is not a search for a problem, it is to anticipate a problem to give the staff whatever resources they need to get the -- those are my comments for today. thank you. >> we have the next quarterly review due pretty quickly. would that be an appropriate time for staff to ask the compression question? >> we have the letter of what we

can and cannot do. commissioner vietor: the next item, please. >> the citizen's advisory committee to report. >> good afternoon, commissioners. we had summer vacations in the last quarter, said there has been a little bit less activity.

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next meeting we are looking at land policy in the land use. it might be appropriate at that time -- if it doesn't, we need to make sure that we have the conversation. >> it is absolutely timely. i do not know if the committee will have the votes to get it done. you might be excited about the work that the city is doing.

it probably would have taken this up about three months ago. what is the date? >> november 9. >> thank you, commissioners. commissioner vietor: public comment? >> we have one speaker card. >> i'm on the c.a.c. i have a small complaint about you guys. we hear a lot of experts. we get a lot of information, we have reports that we would like

to see responded to in a timely manner. i think we have four things that we have not heard back from you about. we as want to know that we are not wasting our time. >> if i can request that perhaps the next month, we have a summary of what those items are. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner vietor: next item, please. >> the consent calendar. they are considered to be routine and will be acted on by a single vote. item a, approving the selection of kennedy jenks consultants for special engineering

services and authorize the general manager of the san francisco public utilities commission to execute a professional services agreement. to approve the water enterprise water conservation operating fund agreement. and authorize the general manager to execute this amendment increasing the agreement hot with a time extension. to approve the project emanuel and construction tasked catalog to the lowest qualified responsible and responsive better -- bidder. to approve the modification to the san francisco public utilities commission enterprise contract. to increase the