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approve. with 2:00. commissioner meko: second. commissioner cavellini: aye. vice chair joseph: aye. commissioner meko: aye. commissioner perez: aye. president newlin: aye. thank you. good luck. >> can i request a clarification on that one? president newlin: a short one. >> that the condition applying to six-month -- in six month wes can request thursday night, will we come back to the entertainment commission for thursday night? or is that something that the planning commission -- president newlin: i got the sense from the commission that their intent is to provide you with the hours that you have now, right? >> right. president newlin: bha what is your current thursday schedule?
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>> well, the planning commission motion limited us until 12:30, i believe, was it 12:30, on thursday night. and in six months we're able to ask for an extension until 2:00 on thursday nights. i would simply suggest that the entertainment commission motion would follow the planning commission. vice chair joseph: you have to come back for an amendment, is that right? commissioner meko: condition of the conditional use, not the place of entertainment permit. vice chair joseph: so they have to come back for an amendment, don't they? president newlin: if we approve it. but you have to stand aside the conditional use permit. commissioner meko: we're accepting whatever it is. president newlin: unless you want to come back. vice chair joseph: come and visit. come and visit. president newlin: very good.
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thank you and good luck. >> good night, commissioners. president newlin: item 6-b. miles, john, the fishbowl. mechanical music device. >> hang on. this is really a no-brainer. the applicant applies for a permit for one video game, the buck hunter, it's called. at this neighborhood bar on divisadero pine street. they're only until 2:00 a.m. seven days a week. there is no entertainment. they serve some light food. the planning department, i attached, what indicated this is a permitted use on the ground for only and if they want to add more buck hunters they have to go to the planning commission. so they're waiting for their electrical inspection. he response from richmond
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station, no objections from richmond station as long as the following situations are met. no gambling, no online capability. i don't know what that means. not to be operated by minors during school hours and only the aforementioned game is to be installed. those are the recommended conditions from richmond station. what? and -- oh, this is wrong. my memo is wrong. sorry. staff recommendation is certainly to issue a conditional grant. but again i apologize, we got this recommendation really late in the day and wasn't able to call richmond to clarify what no online capability means. online gambling. i think mr. miles can tell you that you can play buck hunter with other people online at the same time in other bars.
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do you know this? i would love to play. but i want to clarify -- vice chair joseph: it's like a trivia game. you can compete against other bars. >> i just wanted to bring it to your attention for discussion. i think just so we don't get out of order. why don't we ask mr. miles if he has anything to say and then we can go into that discussion. >> i've been in front of you guys for a lot more complex things. this is kind of an easy one. we have a video game and we need a permit. any questions, i'll entertain any questions. vice chair joseph: i want to make sure that i'm clear. you give your customers a con sole, you have screens up there and they play on the console onto the screen -- >> no, it's like a pac man. you go up, put the quarters in and just -- vice chair joseph: this he can play against people in ohio? >> typically people don't go up
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and play it. it's just a video game. vice chair joseph: but you intend to be online? >> it's online, yeah. vice chair joseph: so what happens is if i score two million and they'll say, high score, second highest score is jones from ohio or something. >> yeah. vice chair joseph: that's what i thought. >> my name is kevin. i'm the partner of the fishbowl. with the computer games as they are now, they have a hard drive which certain pads or whatever and then there's also an online component which you can download moran mals. so we do do the online component because it has more diversification in terms what have our customers want to hunt. that's pretty much it. i don't know of anybody who is playing anybody in south dakota. it's just what we download. it's a new game that they can
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issue. president newlin: any other questions from the commission? ok. i hear a motion? public comment? no? ok. vice chair joseph: if i could ask for clarification -- >> if i could ask for clarification. do you have to be online. so it would be helpful for staff if when the motion is made you address whether this is a condition you want to keep in the permit or not. president newlin: ok. thank you. >> i just wanted to give you guys the heads up. vice chair joseph: don't go there. president newlin: do we have a motion? vice chair joseph: i move to approve with the internet. this is 2010 going into 2011. president newlin: ok. do we have a second?
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commissioner cavellini: i'll second with the worldwide web. commissioner cavellini: aye. vice chair joseph: aye. commissioner meko: aye. commissioner perez: aye. president newlin: aye. >> thank you. president newlin: good luck. item number seven. president newlin: aye. commissioner joseph: good luck the president newlin: i just had a question. what is the boundary? the cross street with richmond? they changed the boundaries. all right. item 7, police department comments and questions. >> good evening, commissioners and staff. i attended the halloween work shop and i thought they had a
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lot of good information there. i like the dialogue, the back and forth. i look forward to working with them in the future for either best practices or other safety areas. as far as issues that have been going on in the district, a couple things they had mentioned. one is on october 10 at 424 clay street, the bar, this is kind of an example where you see one of the establishments really doing something good, responding appropriately. a guy went in there, ored three beers one at a time and they gave him the bill, the big bill of $12 and he got ire at and he wanted to get out and he threw, they said, a large metal fish. it's obviously heavy. at that point the manager and a customer held him down until
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the police came. so they acted appropriately. a lot of times when we're up here we talk about what the clubs are doing bad but this is something they did right. and in front of the club on broadway, two people were stabbed. nonlife threatening. the victims whether -- were not exactly cooperating with the police. so they were released. i would like the super -- center fold, i would like to see them out in toronto -- front managing the crowds a little better. and aggravated force at post and grant. victim said he got into a verbal fight just after he left a night club. i don't have the name of the night club. i could speculate but i don't think that's appropriate. we're looking into that to see exactly what the name of the
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club was. october 17 at the parlor, 2801 leavenworth, a suspect, or actually one of the patrons, a lady was dancing on the dance floor, somebody knocked into her. spilled her drink, and came back with a new drink and then she felt like it had been drugged so she was wondering when the person went to go get the drink that they put something m it. so they made a report on that. and the incident at 561 gary street as far as a female patron felt like somebody approximate had -- had put something in her drink as well. and at show girls a patron got into a verbal fight with the doorman. the doorman went inside and all of a sudden somebody came from the inside and got in a fight and weat -- beat him up. i don't know if there is any correlation between the doorman and this person. and the last is named powa.
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october 21, around 11:00. the impala security pointed out a car that was going at a high rate of speed at broadway and kearney streets, blowing through all the red lights and almost running people down. security was able to point out the car and the officers were able santo go make the arrest. another example of one of the clubs stepping up and doing the right thing. that concludes. any questions? president newlin: any questions from the commission? no. thank you very much. have a good night. thank you. any public comment on the police? comments and questions? seeing none, item 8, commissioners' comments and questions. commissioners? none? ok. i just, a couple of things i have. i want to ask you if you haven't already done so to notify staff as to what your
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attendance anticipation is for the remainder of the year. i've decided along with staff to not schedule a meeting for december 28, but i'd also like to know if we're going to have a quorum problem before that so thep don't go ahead and have to schedule stuff and then we have to cancel the meeting. secondly, i know we have a lot of passion on this commission, but i'd like the commissioners to be recognized before they start shouting out questions to the public. and lastly, every year we have to take the sunshine task force lesson plan and the first fibe minutes of that plan every year states that people don't have to state their name when they come to the podium. so, it's, it's not required. so just if we want to ask them, fine. but if they don't want to tell it or they forget to tell it, it's not a major issue. there's no violation there. and lastly new business
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an excavation package is ongoing. how the court pallia architect is 20% complete with the documents. the request for qualification for the design build construction services trade package was advertised october 4. we received responses to the rfq. we have a value in the responses and will be sending out a notification next week. we have also issued a notice to proceed for the utility relocation contract. the first reconstruction meeting was held on october 21. with respect to the second and third utility relocation visits, we expect to issue those on november 9 with the fourth one being issued november 6. at the terminal we are expected to complete phase two of the
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terminal for operations to commence around december 11. i did want to mention with respect to rider request on the benches, we have increased this about 15%. we have all so requested five more benches with armrests for phase two, when it opens. this will result in a 62% increase in the number of benches at the completion of phase two. with respect to the rest rooms, in conjunction with finishing up the face to work at the terminal, we are investigating various options to provide restrooms while also maintaining and addressing the safety concerns we have had. i expect to come back to the board for an update on the various restrooms. we have also met with the mayor's disability council. we looked at issue is focused on
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access for personal with disabilities for completion of the phase two temporary facility. with respect to the rail design, we continue to coordinate with caltrain and high speed rail on all aspects. we recently completed a bay bridge corridor study that i wanted to present to the board. we recently completed a study on behalf of the tjpa and transit. we administer the contract for a total cost of $350,000. cambridge systematics and other organizations worked on this to assess future highway situations in the corridor and to see if current systems could work affectively. now i would like to ask tony to present the results of the
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study. >> thank you. this is the first look at what traffic conditions will be like in future years as traffic grows. we also took have a look at market street traffic to see if we could start cleaning that up. in the bay bridge corridor right now, in the morning, peak hour, we push through about 42,000 people from the east bay to san francisco. about 18,000 of them are on board. 22,000 coming across the bridge. -- bart. in the future, these are the projections that we get.
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population in the east pay increases. -- bay increases. population in san francisco also continues to increase. our projections, cambridge gave us the over all travel projections for the bay bridge corridor. if you look at this chart, the capacity of the bay bridge in the four-hour peak period, 36,000 vehicles. the demand is 37,000 vehicles. that is why we have this big queu in the mornine in the morn.
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even whip the small increase that is projected in traffic, we end up with a demand of 43,000 vehicles and a capacity of only 36,000. what will happen is the queue at the bay bridge will get really big. we are also dealing with whole corridor. the whole corridor is getting more congested because of more demand. right now we make about 15,000 trips. 42,000 trips. we actually have capacity for about 50,000. we have increases in bart capacity.
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in bonds us up to over 60,000. but in 2030, 2035, we eat up almost all the capacity. the point of the study was, in the interim as capacity becomes more important, we want to make sure buses can get through because it is in fort -- important to fill out that capacity requirement. we are looking to push through another 20,000 people per hour. we know bart can take a around 10,000. the transbay transit center has a capacity of almost 20,000, but we have to get the buses there. right now, caltrans has put together a very effective system. our model, we mimic what
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caltrans did. the measures that they took were very successful with the current level of traffic. the question is what happens in the future. there is a metering flight which holds the traffic backed so that traffic does not exceed capacity of the bridge. the metering lights are activated around 6:30 every morning. the queue starts spilling back about three-quarters of the way back. as you can see, the hov bypass extends beyond that. so the question is, is that going to work in the future?
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just a few caveat on what we did not study. these are all conceptual ideas. there do not seem to be any fatal flaws to the design, but by no means have they been thoroughly analyzed. congestion pricing in our forecast is not considered. on the other hand, bart capacity is also not considered. travel models do not assume that bart has a capacity limit, so of the model keeps on dumping people on to bart, even if they cannot handle them. at the same time, we have not induced traffic. as far as people using it to its
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capacity, that has also not been factored in. basically, we modeled out in the system. it is about a 24-mile model that goes from 580, the 80 split in albany, and then down on 880, past the open, beyond the bay bridge, the central freeway. we worked with caltrans to find the parameters of the model. this is just a microbe simulation model. you will be able to see the output. we also monitor the traffic in and 80-block area from market, embarcadero, fifth street, to
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just beyond the bridge. we have lots of queueing problems in the afternoon. for the bay bridge corridor, we want to measure these on pieces of performance. caltrans policy is not to allow congestion beyond the junction, what we call the macarthur maze. they call it the distribution center. this and reallocks up and you cannot get anywhere -- area locks up and you cannot get anywhere.
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finally, the last measure we had was reliability. we did not want any simple transit trip to take any longer than 14 minutes. the first thing we did is we build a system model and calibrated it against actual positions. we matched the existing conditions. now we have this video that shows 2035 what the traffic will be like on 80 and the toll plaza. it is going to start at the 580/80 junction in albany. it is going to fly over the toll plaza and bridge. as you can see, traffic is running pretty well.
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will look like a saturday afternoon now, which is traffic as far as the eye can see. a different color cars, by the way, we calibrated this model by payment type, so there is fast track, tolls, pools. i think pink is a fast track. i do not remember what the others are. >> so we are coming across the new ramp near treasure island. coming across the bridge. the bridge is pretty free-
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flowing because everything is held back at the toll plaza. we do not seem to have any problems at the ramp here. the bottom line is, when we did the measurements, and the future here conditions without any improvements, it failed. we looked at a series of improvements that would mitigate those traffic congestions. essentially, we look at extending the hov system in the east bay. we look at extending it at the west ramp. we also looked at a contra flow lane on the bridge itself. that would basically be a movable barrier that slides over to one side in the morning,
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