that. i cannot take all the credit. i will not be moving too far away. i still expect support from the commission as needed and as the demands arise and with the indulgence of the chief. it would be my honor to do that. i would like to think the city attorney's office. i appreciate all the detailed explanations and prompting me out. they helped me to look me -- helped me to find the answer. it is easy when you have

dedicated people on the commission. >> think you. i would like to think this is referred dropping off with you. we will be bothering you. >> i am sure that i will be surfacing from time to time. you're one of the most familiar faces seen on san francisco television. and thank you, lieutenant. >> thank you for overlooking all of the mistakes over the years.

you're very kind. >> thank you. >> item 3. the first item is commission announcements. this is the assignment of disciplinary charges filed against patrol special officer robert burns to an individual commissioner for the taking of evidence on a date to be determined by the commissioner. mr. president, commissioner marshall has a case already signed on this matter so with your indulgence, we will assign

this to commissioner marshall. i've been in contact with council on this matter. no other commission announcements that i have a this time. >> the next item. >> scheduling of items identified france of it -- for consideration of future commission meetings. the commission will be holding its medal of valor ceremony on december 15th and we will make the final arrangements later. that is one day and the titular that we do have. >> i know there was some discussion last week regarding the general order about using deadly force and i know that we have had some conversations whether that should be enclosed

session but we really need to move with that. i know that we tentatively have that set for the eighth. i am asking that we prepared to move forward with that and move forward without as needed. this is something that we really need to address and i understand the issues out there. i've spoken to one other commissioner about this but i think that we need to move on this sooner than later. >> i am aware that is the date that we are looking at. i have a meeting tomorrow with diprivan representatives to go over the issue and then we will get some policy direction from the chief. as i said, we need to go find a basis for closed session and if we cannot find one, we will have to think of a way to get the

matter before the commission. we do have meetings scheduled. >> we are dark next week? >> that's correct. >> there was a bulletin that went out that i believed the it department gave to the commission and we are looking at the that bulletin and whether there needs to be some further changes were clarification. >> this is a policy matter and i don't understand why this would be in close to session.

-- in closed session i don't understand this. >> a brief update on the court hiring process. we spent most of the day interviewing applicants and we will most likely have a candidate by december 15th in time for a background check. it is to give you that time line. >> thank you. >> following up on the question of whether this should be an open session are closed session. discussions like this should be in open session. my only concern is if it would

have an effect on any pending cases and if there could be attorney-client privilege questions that might be raised as to effective pending cases. i would like to city attorney to perhaps look at that. otherwise, if there are any other concerns, we will look at this. >> fighting that it should be a general hybrid and should be in open session. this will be a delicate balance. this is one that we need to address. we don't want to have our officers at risk. we need to move sooner than later on this. thank you. anything further? >> commissioner, i would like to also think the city attorney's office has been a tremendous asset to my tenure as commission

secretary. also to follow up on dr. marshall's comment, we will be dark on the 22nd. this this thanksgiving week. no commission meeting next week. >> thank you, everyone. any other public comment? >> that is when said the 24th. i beg your pardon. >> my comment is on the shoe law. transparency is very important. the officers' conduct should be public. if i go in front of a judge, my conduct is public. an officer is not public.

this lot needs to be overturned in my honest opinion. thank you. >> is there any other public comment? >> hearing none, next item. >> item four is all the items pertaining to closed session which is items 6. this includes public comment on whether to go into closed session. >> is to any public comment regarding closed session? >> hearing none, please call the next session. >> this is the vote on whether to go into closed session. >> seconded. >> we will now move into closed session regarding disciplinary matters. thank you. >> it is 9:42 p.m.

we are moving out of closed session and moving to item seven. i want to know for the record the presence of commissioners slaughter, marshall, dejesus, and kinglsey. we can move to item seven with your indulgence, a vote to elect whether to disclose any or all of the discussion held in closed session. >> i move that we do not disclose. >> any public comment? >> lastly, moving to item 8, adjournment. >> so moved. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. thank you lieutenant riley. >> a good meeting, everybody. >> i have a feeling i will not

be saying it for the last time.

>> i have 2 job titles. i'm manager of the tour program as well as i am the historyian of city hall. this building is multifaceted to say the very least it's a municipal building that operates the city and county of san francisco. this building was a dream that became a reality of a man by the name of james junior elected mayor of san francisco in 1912.

he didn't have a city hall because it was destroyed in the earth wake of 1906. construction began in april of 1913. in december 1915, the building was complete. it opened it's doors in january 1916. >> it's a wonderful experience to come to a building built like this. the building is built as a palace. not for a king or queen. it's built for all people. this building is beautiful art. those are architecture at the time when city hall was built, san francisco had an enormous french population. therefore building a palace in

the art tradition is not unusual. >> jimmie was an incredible individual he knew that san francisco had to regain it's place in the world. he decided to have the tallest dome built in the united states. it's now stands 307 feet 6 inches from the ground 40 feet taller than the united states capital. >> you could spend days going around the building and finding something new. the embellishment, the carvings, it represents commerce, navigation, all of the things that san francisco is famous for. >> the wood you see in the

board of supervisor's chambers is oak and all hand carved on site. interesting thing about the oak is there isn't anymore in the entire world. the floors in china was cleard and never replanted. if you look up at the seceiling you would believe that's hand kof carved out of wood and it is a cast plaster sealing and the only spanish design in an arts building. there are no records about how many people worked on this building. the workman who worked on this building did not all speak the same language.

and what happened was the person working next to the other person respected a skill a skill that was so wonderful that we have this masterpiece to show the world today. i'm robert chief and i'm the park's supervisor in the parks in the sunset district. i've been working here for 3 years. we are 60-70 street below street level. the 64 acre park. the park is divided into 2 sections we are in the stern area. when you get over to pine lake meadow and pine lake, pine lake is considered a natural area. in 1847, the green family came

out here, back then this was kind of an empty canyon and sand dun area. they claimed this property. in 1892. george green who's a second generation built the truckdaro club house. there was a hotel then. it was said this was the place to go if you were weary of the dirty city and the police. there were a couple of gun fights the front door has bullet holes. i don't ever repair them. 1931 stig mond bought the property from the green family. she donated it to the city of san francisco and had a specification, i'm giving it to the city that will be used forever for the enjoyment forever of the people of the city of san francisco.

it has ever since. every summer the stern grove association in san francisco rec and parks put on 10 free concerts. usually people come out at 10 in the morning it's a family affair. everybody is on the lawn with picnics and it's free. anybody can come out. it's a great way to spend a sunday. >> goes to 1-2 in the afternoon and runs until 5. [music]. thanks to the stern grove association they renovated the concert meadow. it used to be a rolling grafsy area. put in a new stage and stage building. they put in terraces. we get from 8,000 to 12,000 people. and the meadow next to the concert meadow is full of people even though they can't see the

music they hear it. i walked into the meadow several times and they don't even care. we do have literally events going on day and night. the concert association has kids days during the week. the performers come out for hundred 200 kids. now, the truckadero truck house gets rented out for weddings and retirement. the croquet clubs and horse shoes. 2 play grounds, tennis courts. we have from 25 to a hundred dogs here. it's like bisons going across the mid west. there are so many dogs they are covering the ground cht it's a get together. all the dog walkers know each

other. if you go to pine lake day camp now, you will see 50 kids there. the r directors are wonder. >> the pine lake is natural. they take of the area around the lake. they plant natives that are drought tolerant. one that stands the dry summers here. the whole park is under going quite a bit of reconstruction. they will renovate the trails around the lake. and the big project is the capital project for pine lake meadow. they are going to returf the dog run and the meadow by the day camp. we are looking for a very busy

fall. by the spring of next year should have major renovations to the mark thal make it an outstanding park. i don't ever refer to it as my park. all the parks belong to all the people. this park belongs just as much to the families in the bay view sdrishth as it does to the gentlemen that lives across the street. i'm happy and proud to be the caretaker for them. i wake up every day and thank that i have i'm the president of friends of mclaren park. it is one of the oldest neighborhood community park groups in san francisco. i give a lot of tours through the park. during those tours, a lot of the folks in the group will think of the park as very scary. it has a lot of hills, there's

a lot of dense groves. once you get towards the center of the park you really lose your orientation. you are very much in a remote area. there are a lot of trees that shield your view from the urban setting. you would simply see different groves that gives you a sense of freedom, of being outdoors, not being burdened by the worries of city life. john mclaren had said that golden gate park was too far away. he proposed that we have a park in the south end of the city. the campaign slogan was, people need this open space. one of the things that had to open is there were a lot of people who did a homestead here, about 25 different families. their property had to be bought up. so it took from 1928 to 1957 to buy up all the parcels of land that ended up in this 317 acres. the park, as a general rule, is

heavily used in the mornings and the evenings. one of the favorite places is up by the upper reservoir because dogs get to go swim. it's extremely popular. many fights in the city, as you know, about dogs in parks. we have 317 acres and god knows there's plenty of room for both of us. man and his best friend. early in the morning people before they go to work will walk their dogs or go on a jog themselves with their dogs. joggers love the park, there's 7 miles of hiking trails and there's off trail paths that hikers can take. all the recreational areas are heavily used on weekends. we have the group picnic area which should accommodate 200 people, tennis courts are full. it also has 3 playground areas.

the ampitheater was built in 1972. it was the home of the first blues festival. given the fact that jerry garcia used to play in this park, he was from this neighborhood, everybody knows his reputation. we thought what a great thing it would be to have an ampitheater named after jerry garcia. that is a name that has panache. it brings people from all over the bay area to the ampitheater. the calls that come in, we'd like to do a concert at the jerry garcia ampitheater and we do everything we can to accommodate them and help them because it gets people into the park. people like a lot of color and that's what they call a park. other people don't. you have to try to reconcile all those different points of view. what should a park look like and what should it have? should it be manicured, should

it be nice little cobblestones around all of the paths and like that. the biggest objective of course is getting people into the park to appreciate open space. whatever that's going to take to make them happy, to get them there, that's the main goal. if it takes a planter with flowers and stuff like that, fine. you know, so what? people need to get away from that urban rush and noise and this is a perfect place to do it. feedback is always amazement. they don't believe that it's in san francisco. we have visitors who will say, i never knew this was here and i'm a native san franciscoan. they wonder how long it's been here. when i tell them next year we'll get to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the park,