the state does not say this is a good provider. what they are mandated to do, if they make it on the list, they can become providers. the me thresholds which have very little to do with effectiveness. it has to do with filling out the forms correctly, asserting that you are going to do this. there are very little -- there is no, "have you actually helped kids do better in school?" just so the parents -- just so the community understands the intention of the law here. do we have something in our contracts that requires them to align their work with the construction all -- the instructional program in our schools? >> it does say that, but of course it is a stretch. there is a computer-based mathematics program that does but a difference with our kids. if the school means a

performance with mathematics -- at the present time, the degrees of control are not what i think would be significant for what we are after in our strategic plan. so i am hoping that there will be changes in the law that will allow us to have much more authority over what is happening. commissioner wynns: my last question is are we conducting -- are collecting data about the performance of students who take advantage of this service, and also the various providers to kids who do not? >> all the contracts require pre-published data, but of course it is according to their measure. commissioner wynns: i understand, but that is not what i am saying. within our own data collection on a student basis, are we looking at -- we are going to need it -- i appreciate the

delicate way that we have all been talking here about what we think is some kind of, at the very least, poorly, you know, poor judgment on the part of the federal government, saying we are going to take a large part of money to support poor kids and say it goes to private providers, regardless of the effectiveness. however, when this hopefully eventually comes up for reauthorization and you are looking at this method of this -- supposedly helping kids who need extra help, we are going to need data to show what we think of it, even though there will not be -- there will be very little disagreement among school districts as to the effectiveness of spending money this way, in my experience. but we still are going to need that data, because the providers are going to assert this is just a great idea and we are doing so

much better by spending money in this way. >> definitely, we are collecting data. whether that data can be compared from one source to another source, when there are different ways of collecting data -- whether that data is useful is a different item? we are more than happy to do an analysis of the data collected. it does have interest to us. there can be a correlation made with substantial statistical liability, probably, the would allow us to compare scores and see if there is an aftereffect. that would be in our best interest. commissioner wynns: ok. we will explore that. thank you. president kim: thank you. roll call, please. [roll is called] commissioner norton: reluctantly, yes. president kim: our next item is

item q, superintendents proposals for first reading. we have won tonight, authorization to grant or to deny the international school's petition for a new charter school. i made a motion and i need a second. commissioner yee: second. president kim: this will be referred to curriculum committee and budget committee. the next is board members' proposals, item r, for first reading. it is in support of denouncing the deportation of shing ma "steve" li, a dream at student at city college of san francisco. we need a movement to suspend

rules. [roll call vote] >> five ayes. president kim: may we have a motion and second for a formal introduction? i will do the reading of the resolution. our resolution is in support of denouncing the deportation of shing ma steve li, a dream at student at city college of san francisco. this is bipartisan legislation addresses the plight of young people brought to the united states as immigrant children, who have since kept out of trouble. each year, 65,000 united states- raised students to qualify for

the been -- who qualify for the dream act frederick from high school. assistant senate majority leader dick durbin asked the u.s. department of homeland security secretary, janet napolitano, to halt the deportation of immigrants students who could earn legal status under the dream act. it has the support of the house and senate leadership, all the relative committee shares, and our military leaders, including colin powell. in 2010, before the national hispanic caucus, president obama stated he would do whatever it takes to support the efforts to pass this bill, so he can sign it into law on behalf of students seeking a college education and those who wish to serve in our country's uniform. it is the right thing to do. steve li is a junior in city college who aspires to be a health care worker. he graduated from george

washington high school as well as hoover middle school, where he was an editor and reporter for the school newspaper and ran on the track and cross-country team. he is scheduled to graduate in september 2011. he entered the u.s. when he was about 12 years old and was ordered removed from the united states to peru when he was 14. he has no knowledge of the deportation because he was a derivative beneficiary of his mother's political asylum application. when the judge denied that her status, that denied his status in the u.s. where he was a minor. he was never reformed -- he was never informed he was a fugitive in the united states. he was arrested along with his parents pursuant to an ice directive called the fugitive program. it was intended to target dangerous fugitive immigrants, but instead has swept up young adopted children who never knew they had been ordered to move. this does not serve any national security progress. where as he is dream act

eligible, and his deportation to peru should be halted, we should read his application for deferred action and allow him to remain in the u.s.. protect children -- deporting dream our children is unfair and a violation of their constitutional rights. while the immigration system is broken, deporting immigrants children is up the answer. the san francisco school board recognizes the support of the city and community college, including his mentor, professors, classmates, law caucus, and the asian-pacific american community. the community has called, emailed, and written over 500 letters to senator feinstein and speaker policy asking a speak out against deportation. unless the dream act is passed by congress, all deportation of immigrant children should be stopped. unless the dream act is passed, steve li should be released from

beo remain in the u.s. until the deferred action plan. and that senator boxer offer a bill. i did want to read the entire resolution because i am not sure if everyone is familiar with the story. at this time, we are calling for public speakers. please line up. >> i will go. i am sorry, i forgot to actually

do public comment for the superintendent's proposal. my apologies for that. we will the that after this reading. we have three public speakers. >> i am a faculty member at city college of san francisco. steve, as you have heard, was a graduate of the san francisco unified school district. an energetic, bright, and promising young man. he was on his way to transfer to san francisco state university where he would go and serve the communities. he is a great example of what our education system can do here in san prince it is. i think it is appalling at this point that the young man that wants nothing more than an education to give back is now

being deported. it is a great example of what exactly is broken with our immigration system at this time. he happens to be chinese ethnically, but is not just an issue for those communities, is an issue for all americans. it is one that we should all be paying attention to a little bit more. i am here to basically -- allow us to speak to you. this afternoon, the board of supervisors passed a similar resolution. the board of trustees also passed -- we hope it brings light to this very important issue. thank you.

>> good evening president kim and the commissioners. steve and i are good friends. every time we hang out, we are always laughing and he is just one of the most fun loving people i have ever met. that is why it really hurts me that something so horrible as happening to him. he has been detained in arizona for over 50 days where he is being treated like a criminal. he will have nobody with him and he has no family there. he is no less of an american that i am. we listened to the same music,

so what separates him and die? -- and i? we want to make ourselves and the something that our parents have worked so hard for and raised us to be. i would like to urge you all to please help us pass item r and bring steve back home to where he belongs in america. >> my name is peter and i graduated from high school, abraham lincoln high school. i am currently at city college in san francisco. when i first met him, we became really good friends and he is really genuine. i was shocked because a guy like

steve, for him to be arrested, a guy like him is very kind and helpful. he is studying to be a nurse. not only does he want to help people, but by helping them -- him -- maybe he can help you guys later on because if he becomes a nurse and you guys turn sick, which we don't want to happen, if it ever happens, steve could help you. because he wants to be a nurse. president kim: any comments or

questions from the board? i want to thank you for bringing this resolution for us -- to us. i think it is important that we support our students that are here in the u.s. and have worked very hard. we're grateful that you have brought this to us. roll call. >> [roll call vote] six ayes. president kim: thank you. i am actually going back to eisenhower -- item q.

i forgot that we give five minutes of public comment for the first reading items. i believe that there are two speakers? when speaker? -- one speaker? great, two minutes. >> good evening. okay. i want to thank you for the opportunity to speak briefly about the proposal for a new charter school in san and cisco. with me -- sandra it is. with me are some of the volunteers -- san francisco. with me are some of the volunteers. and also, there are a number of other members on the team that could not be here this evening.

but we have been working diligently on this. we are eager to work with the committees and all of the commissioners to bring it our alternative choice to families and students in san francisco. the proposal that we have submitted through the office -- includes a strong, diverse cultural influences. the teacher facilitated program with an emphasis on group processes and related skills resulting in powerful learning teams and including exemplary participation on many levels. over the last eight years, parents want their children to be able to continue in a public elementary school like the preschool program we are

currently operating. another is that for many years, we wanted to bring the strategies and the results to public schools. as we go forward, we welcome your questions, comments, and the proposed school and the possibilities for students and families. thank you. president kim: thank you very much. we move on to item s. the first one as a report from the budget and business service committee from october 28. commissioner yee: the members that are present, it was a very lengthy meeting and i will try not to be as lengthy. we had no action item. the items that we covered were

informational items. they include student services, unaudited financial statements, the budget development calendar and the review of administratively approved consultant resolutions. we had a discussion on the student nutrition and i would say that there were some concerns on the numbers that we saw. when will it be projections for the breakfast -- when we look at the projections for the breakfast, it looks like it will be lower this year that in previous years. we wanted to do some analysis and see what is causing that. the bottom line for all of this is that there is also a projection for the deficit that

we usually have, it will be reduced this year -- it will not be reduced this year, which is a positive thing. the other financial statements for fiscal year 20 -- 2009 and 2010. we filed this on time and we did it again this year. this is the pattern that we followed for the last couple of years. it has always been late. it looks good. it is unaudited financial statements . the state budget peace, a lot of it came on the news. -- piece, a lot of it came on the news. when we look at the revenues that are being generated, it

seems to be a lot slower than it would be projected. at this point, there might be a revision. we are afraid what a lovely asking us to do is reduce the budget for the full year, but only give us half a year to reduce it. so we are going to have to wait and see at this point. sorry. it might look ok, but i guess we are making a lot of assumptions about what it would be. as we move forward, we still have to take a conservative approach on this. not only for next year, but for this year. on the budget development calendar, it has been outlined. we will really start talking about it, probably in december

or january. we are talking about it already because as we discussed student nutrition and transportation, those are things that we have a historic discussion rather than just having a budget and say that this is going to happen. we are a little bit more informed. the last thing is that we reviewed a the consultant resolutions. we talked about it at the previous meeting and we talked about concerns like duplications, things coming in and not catching. the discussion by staff made us feel more comfortable that they are paying attention to the system for it and they are monitoring it. when we looked at the october report, the report looked pretty positive. it doesn't mean that things can fall through the cracks, --

can't pull through the cracks, but the staff has to monitor its pretty carefully. the $50,000 threshold or the $25,000 threshold might go over. those were the five items that we discussed. we will be having our -- we are changing the date for the next meeting in november because of thanksgiving. we are moving into monday -- to monday the 29th. the topics, one of the informational items will be really focused on these special and -- the special ed piece and the kind of resources that we actually have for it. and hopefully we will have a discussion that is related to

the audit that we just did so we can start lining up resources better. that's it. president kim: okay. >> i don't know if it is important, but i will not be able to be at the meeting on the 29. the other members need to be there. commissioner fewer: we had a curriculum program committee meeting on november 3, and we had a couple of items that were informational. what was expectations of eighth grade counselors and assisting students to meet graduation requirements. very exciting, they are moving

in the direction of adopting the american school counseling association national model. that means that it is very much similar to a chaired service system. all of our students would receive counseling. rather than some. the challenging thing about it is that the recommends ratios of 360 -- 250 students to 1 counselor, and now it is close to 500. that is a challenge that we hope to overcome soon. it is an exciting direction that we are moving toward. we also heard an update on the schools, mainly we heard about the big picture. this is the big picture project. i think a book was given to all

of the board members. this is a really fascinating presentation. there are over 700 big picture schools in the united states. our principal center is now a big picture school. they have great results nationwide, and we have the conversation at this meeting that we really need to switch to the culture of our schools as being < or not as good as regular comprehensive. this is a compromise -- conversation that we really need to switch to. that it will be an alternative to the regular comprehensive schools. i think it gives our students a real alternative to the regular, traditional classroom setting. there is an individualized plan

for each of the students. attendance has been phenomenal. it is a school that traditionally does not have good attendance. they hope to expand from the 50 students currently to 150 students. we heard from other schools like the civic center, woodside, we heard from folks from ida b. wells and downtown high. it is nice to know that this is a very cohesive group that meets regularly and shares ideas with conversation. about how to make it better and how to meet the needs of students that have not been successful in the regular school settings by offering them an engaging cirriculum. president kim: our next report

is from the augmented ad hoc committee. commissioner wynns: the committee met last night here, and we had three items on the agenda. the first one was a report on the plan for the monitoring of the student assignment, and i want to make sure, by the way, commissioner fewer said everybody got a copy of that but which i did not get. i am asking to make sure that all of the commissioners get a copy of the materials from the meeting last night. there were power point presentation is that will explain all of these issues about the monitoring system, and particularly about that presentation that will explain the experts that will be an

adviser to the system -- advisers to the system. and how it will help us to an evaluate the effectiveness of reaching the goals of the new student assignment system. it lists a lot of questions. i like the format of lot. -- a lot. we want all members of the board to read that and consult with staff. the second item was the transportation policy, the committee actually recommended to the board a substitute motion which is the changes to the transportation policy from what was first introduced and when it will come to us in september. i want to say that last night, we discussed becauf