represent this program, it should be put into the report. we should delay that until the findings or study or result of this motion can be incorporated. commissioner mirkarimi: good point. any other public comment? public comment is close. -- closed. there is no further approval necessary. please read the next item. >> item number 4, an update on the pole mounted solar from the september 17 meeting. >> i wanted to give a brief overview of what happened in the last meeting where we talked about the solar project. since the last meeting, lafco staff has sat down with petro

solar twice. they are the contract for the new jersey -- they are providing the pole-mounted solar units. we clarified a lot of the specifics of such a program and how it would work specifically. the first meeting in included richard smith. the second meeting included the general manager of power enterprise at the sfpuc. and the streetlights team. and just some major sticking points that i would like to call out, we would have to reach an agreement with pg&e.

simply because we are feeding the energy into the grid. another point is that it is a question of what kind of communication mechanism might be used in order to manage and monitor the unit. the solar units are monitored by the technology. i think there are plans to have the new puc -- to use existing communication mechanisms. another point is metering and how to measure the output of the solar units. each would have the meter installed. and lastly, the city processes as well as teh puc -- the puc

mentioned there would have to be a ceqa process. and they brought this up regarding conjecture in terms of overhead wiring and things like that. the next step sounds like petrasolar would have to have a pilot project. they went through some of the items they would need in this proposal. and the proposed efficiency of such a program, trying to measure the output and qualification. we're going to be waiting on petra how to see if they will submit a proposal.

the you have any questions? commissioner mirkarimi: when would we know potentially? do we encourage them to go ahead and submit horovitz register their interest? >> from my meetings, it did not sound like there was any time line. i know that a representative is here today. we did not talk about a specific time line. commissioner mirkarimi: can we ask the representative? thank you. >> regulatory manager for petra solar. commissioner mirkarimi: are you interested in submitting a proposal? >> we are hoping to get you guys a draft next week commissioner mirkarimi:. commissioner mirkarimi: -- next

week. commissioner mirkarimi: would this be in time for the meeting on september 10? that would be interesting. who would asked pg&e permission? would it be sfpuc? >> i know that we have had discussions with them, but i did not know the answer to that. commissioner mirkarimi: what did they say to you? >> they don't have a definitive answer. commissioner mirkarimi: let me come back around. is miss hale circling the wagons on this? >> they have been meeting with pg&e regarding such projects, trying to fill them out about

it. i don't know about the specifics. in terms of working with pg&e at trying to allow us to solve these things, i think it is something they will have to work out. >> one issue is the pilot program because we would just be testing the technology to see how it works. the long-term issue of how you would rule out a substantial part in san francisco proper, we don't own any of the distribution infrastructure and it would require working things out. given the challenges, i suspect it would be a challenge.

one of the big issues is the meter in in terms of keeping track of how much energy is coming out of the panel. commissioner mirkarimi: have we ever negotiated a pilot like this with pg&e? i would think we would have. i think just the question of the receptiveness, this idea by the city, the city itself will tell the story. did you want to add something? >> we have the pilot project that doesn't require ceqa or pg&e approval. that is what we want to get going on. that is the first thing to do. if it does, we have a potential

program and we will be back to you if it shows promise about ways to initiate it. commissioner mirkarimi: no action is required, correct? public comment on this item? >> i told the journal and i would mention that one thing that would be really blood would be to carve out the ability to deliver 50% local hiring in terms of doing this project. some of the things you might think about, you can talk to any of the commission members, you can talk to the city program, and you talk about whatever you're going to do. people would really like to be a part of that. i think definitely just think

about how you can commit to doing 50% local hiring on this project, a lot of people will be even more exciting -- excited about it. folks that are really hungry to be involved in green jobs, years of all them dirty power plants, for example. i'm just thinking out loud for you. it might be good here whenever you propose to us. it would be a really good thing to hear from you. commissioner mirkarimi: nothing stopping them from killing 100% local hiring, which we encourage, too. >> one of the great stories -- sorry, walker wright. one of the items that is really

exciting about the project in new jersey is that as a qualifying project, and there is nothing that says jobs have to be created locally. obviously, they are getting delayed consistently and there will be jobs on the install side. what makes us different, we have chosen to have 100% of our assembly jobs local right next to where the project takes place. commissioner mirkarimi: you enter into a time when leadership of others trying to push for a very strict agreements on amplifying the local hiring goals. it's something that we want to send strong signals. any other public comment? public comment is closed. we will continue this to the call of the chair as well.

how can you read the next item? >> item numbe 5, executive officer's report. >> i just wanted to follow up on the comments about the senate committee meeting and the possible legislation to assist the efforts. we went over those of briefly, so i don't want to go into too much detail. i would like to suggest that we have the staff working with the consultant staff to put together some legislative language that follows up on some of those ideas. i think that given budget problems going on, it is nice to have legislation drafted for you. that is all that i have for you today. if there isn't any objection, i

will ask them to help the conceptual ideas. commissioner mirkarimi: is that ok? and did you want to share any prospective -- perspective? >> the cca programs, one is no longer in business. another is up and running but had a lot to say about the problems of the programs and given pg&e activities. we are certainly no stranger to that. if you take away the idea that you are -- or if we are to survive, there needs to be some changes in the regulatory field

about how to compete. i think that was the main idea that they took away from that hearing. commissioner mirkarimi: i am curious what you thought the cpuc might take away from that. >>when he spoke, he basically said that they understood the problems and that they welcome some regulatory clarification about the kinds of things that they can do. one of the suggestions was additional fines and penalties. he indicated that he thought they already have that power. just letters and that sort of thing. i think the cpuc, if they have

the tools, they would use those tools. they don't really have clear tools on how to develop -- deal with that kind of situation. a competition going on. commissioner mirkarimi: i hope they have the will. to be more supportive of local government against private utilities. >> that is true. part of the reason might be that they are used to investors and utilities. they will not regulate. there is a little bit inherent question among the staff people because they are not regulated. they have little bit of that. isn't it better if we regulate the entity? i think that they understand the problems of their, and i think that they are supportive of legislative changes to give them

more power. commissioner mirkarimi: any questions? seeing none? -- none. public comment? public comment is closed. we will continue this to the color of the chair. >> item 6, public comment for items not on the agenda and future agenda items. commissioner mirkarimi: with a body like to suggest future agenda items? -- would anybody like to suggest future agenda items? public comment. >> the first part of my comments, i will represent the green party, and you will see why. i wanted to flesh out a little bit more on the electricity reliability plan.

another big red flag that we saw at the stake holders meeting was that the recommendation was for san francisco to become a big test bed for renewable efficiency technologies. while it is great for us to be a test bed, i think any of you that followed the green peace or the kind of work that people like me have been doing, we will say loud and clear over and over again that we have technology ready to go for other programs like it right away. making test bed technologies, and doing the big energy rollout is not great interaction. i have not discussed my next comments with any of the groups that i work with or coordinate with. this is just me talking, but it

is important. i will put you guys on the spot by being very political. if programs have the potential for public power, the potential for good electricity resources, we can see that having stability in room 200 of this building is absolutely crucial. you will hear from many grass- roots organizers that come next week, we need to start a very open and strong public process in which be sitting board decides to 6 in room 200 so that when we get to the rollout of the other programs that are coming out, we know that we have somebody in there that will be

strong with us, and we have somebody in there that has a good chance of doing four more years. we need you to start making that decision on tuesday and make sure you give us a lot of consistencies so that we are not getting to the mid-january and having a mad rush behind the process to appoint god-knows- who. i want to put that out there. s crucial to they/ success of cca. [chime] commissioner mirkarimi: any other public comment? >> on what he was saying, i would like to know if someone is appointed to be mayor for this

one year period, how would that affect them if they wanted to run in the future? if someone sat in that seat and they held the position and did a good job, would it affect reappointment to run later? if you guys could give us the information, i would be happy to know that. commissioner mirkarimi: anyone is welcome to speak with you afterwards. public comment is more rhetorical. we appreciate that. is there any other public comment? public comment is closed. i would like to thank everybody for their input and participation today. thank you, madame clerk, sfgtv, sfpuc, lafco staff.

we will have another meeting on december 10. it looks like it will be a very substantive agenda. i don't believe that there is any other business. seeing none, everybody have a great weekend. the meeting is adjourned. >> hello, i'm meg, welcome to "culture wire." for this episode, the director of cultural affairs, luis, will take you on a journey through presidio has been tet.

-- presidio habitat. >> welcome to "culture wire." today i'm at the presidio trust, a treasure within san francisco, because the presidio trust is really a national park in the center of an urban setting. it dates to the very founding of the city. national park. toting me today to talk about this amazing exhibition at presidio habitat is cheryl hanes.

can you tell me a little bit about the idea of the presidio habitat? >> succinctly, i have been long involved in the presidio. i was here when it was still a military base in the 1980's. i remember driving down walmart to the golden gate bridge and seeing the military guard at the gate and being utterly fascinated. >> so presidio habitat is an exhibition where you have invited, how many artists to think about the habitat? >> we put together a list of possible participants, local, national, or international, of people who are concerned with environmental concerns, made some sort of contribution to the landscape and conversation we're having here.

we said that broke -- proposal requests and we received 25 back. from that 25, we went through and chose tend to realize in the landscape. >> including this building, which is an amazing example of recycling. >> we are proud of this space. it was designed by a local architecture team. we said, we need something that is a temporary structure, something that can be brought onto the presidio in pieces, act as an exhibition space for one year. we came up with the notion of shipping containers. it was important for us that we made this project for the place, of the place. what i mean by that is

participants would also used repurchased materials. >> we will be speaking to one of the artists that you selected. what excited you about his idea? >> have many things. first of all, i am a fan of his architecture. because of that creativity, i knew that he could come up with something unique. i love the fact that he was specifically addressing the landscape around here, and it was also about the human interaction with this place. >> what are your expectations with the people coming to presidio habitat? >> we really hope people will come with their family, dogs, and come back a number of times the works will change over the

year. the feedback we are getting is you cannot do all of them on one visit. it is really better to come back and have different experiences. >> thank you. i am with mark jensen of jensen architect. he was one of the architects to be chosen to do the presidio habitat. when you heard about this project, what inspired you about that call? >> our inspiration is a great blue heron. it was the site itself that attracted us. this is an incredibly beautiful outdoor room. we did a bit of reverse engineering once we knew we wanted to work here. which animals live here? the great blue heron jumped out at us. we walked around, and quickly,

you get into another pace. you slow down, leave the city behind you. you can feel the wind and the breeze. in our increasingly frenetic, fast-paced, connected life, the chance to be of here and slow down a bit was part of the agenda. as part of the installation, it was suggested that this would be deliberately not mowed because it would allow the sustaining of insects, plants, that would graduate -- that would gravitate to the area. >> that is right. i think you quickly notice that. >> thank you for being here. presidio habitat is an exhibition at the presidio trust. it will be in san francisco through may 2011. we hope you will come out to

experience this amazing exhibition and great natural treasure. >> to learn more about the other habitats installations in the presidio, visit i'm robert chief and i'm the park's supervisor in the parks in the sunset district. i've been working here for 3 years. we are 60-70 street below street level. the 64 acre park. the park is divided into 2 sections we are in the stern area. when you get over to pine lake meadow and pine lake, pine lake is considered a natural area. in 1847, the green family came

out here, back then this was kind of an empty canyon and sand dun area. they claimed this property. in 1892. george green who's a second generation built the truckdaro club house. there was a hotel then. it was said this was the place to go if you were weary of the dirty city and the police. there were a couple of gun fights the front door has bullet holes. i don't ever repair them. 1931 stig mond bought the property from the green family. she donated it to the city of san francisco and had a specification, i'm giving it to the city that will be used forever for the enjoyment forever of the people of the city of san francisco.

it has ever since. every summer the stern grove association in san francisco rec and parks put on 10 free concerts. usually people come out at 10 in the morning it's a family affair. everybody is on the lawn with picnics and it's free. anybody can come out. it's a great way to spend a sunday. >> goes to 1-2 in the afternoon and runs until 5. [music]. thanks to the stern grove association they renovated the concert meadow. it used to be a rolling grafsy area. put in a new stage and stage building. they put in terraces. we get from 8,000 to 12,000 people. and the meadow next to the concert