years, longer than anybody up here except for some of the clerks. i've never seen city hall in a position that it is right now. now, this is supposed to be a process that supervisors and you all put together. is this a process when we come, spend many hours passing all kinds of legislations but one important thing that y'all are supposed to be getting together is the process. the only process i've been seeing here, witnesses that people come up here and speak and y'all get up here and look at each other and somebody make a motion to delay it another week. daly was saying let's have some debate, talk about it. most of y'all come up here talking saying you have your backdoor debates already and made your deals. i know politics just as much as y'all do and my only strength is you all don't recognize me so that's good. that's my strength. right now what's going on at city hall, the whole world is watching and i'm sure the big cameras are going to be here in two weeks because that's going to be down to the final count. now, i'm asking y'all

responsibly, who's in control? who's going to take the lead? chris dailey, i take my hat off to him. he challenged the person that got up to delay it but no one wants to even say anything up here. now, when the news board supervisors come on, you think you've got problems now, you've got a bunch of rookies that are going to come on here. how the hell are they going to make -- y'all are seniors. y'all should make the decisions and have the credibility and accountability to come forth. all say you your hands are tied because the mayor done told you what to do. this is really despicable. i'm really embarrassed with san francisco, i really am. i can say it because i've been here 20 something years. i have been here when y'all wasn't involved in politics. you're full of tricks, making everybody turn to a lunatic. p >> next speaker. >> i saw the process as being a possible creative one where you

could maybe possible creative one where you could maybe have something like -- i'm sorry, i can't think at all today. the repercussions of my speech last week meant i slept in the cold and was injured. so i'm not well. i'm not thinking very clearly. but i saw that we could have, you know, like the trump meeting of, you know, like seeing who's qualified, i can't even remember what his program is called, "apprentice" or where people want to invest, say, in inventions where they say oh, we'll all come in on this. where you people who have experience p could lend your expertise or could be open, and what i'm seeing is there's some significance in the fact that nobody will say anything. this is a dangerous city. maybe y'all know it.

maybe you know -- you don't know the maulings i experienced, the judge, jury and execution that goes unended and the percent execution of the -- p purse execution of the -- persecution of the poor. let's give the people out of jail a job that's unqualified to run the shelters. i see the shelters, like i said, no need to reinvent the wheel. pull in what's working in india or what's working in a spiritual community where people eastern their way to be there. they go to meditation and learn meditation and get education, education where they -- their lifestyle skills, prepare the place and contribute to the environment around them. learning that it's not, you know, like a lower thing to do janitorial work. waxing on, waxing off.

>> thank you. next speaker. >> hi, i'm ed malary. i'm coming here today, edmond larry jucy. i'm retiring from activism and is something i need to get out. medical marijuana and christmas and then kwanzaa. medical marijuana people, if you're listening today, remember the meaning of tonight as tuesday the 14th at bowser pizza, 371 11th street. don't forget at task force, the third friday for those people that have been coming on wednesday night, to come friday to the meeting at 9:30 for our compassionate youth. and i want to throw out some things, compassionate tom jones

, and i have the green pastor rainbows, underground medical marijuana, section 8 cannibus. come on out. this will be my last year. for 10 years i've been giving cannibus -- sharing cannibus with christmas people, 2595 market cross from safeway, 2020. also you need to listen to the radio for the kwanzaa event coming up the day after christmas. and also, this is the -- if you can get a picture, the a.c. emergency dinner will be on the 24th and 25th at the war memorial. come out for cecil williams give away on that day, the prime rib day and just think, you know, martin luther king is coming up in january and we want the kwanzaa people to get in touch with the martin luther king celebration that will be at the civic center again returning after a one-year delay, get in touch with them because kwanzaa is a great thing. you should listen to 89.5, kpo

baby for a great event and thank the black san francisco firefighters for their drive. maybe get in touch with the toy drive. thank you. i'm retiring. >> thank you. next speaker. >> sue hester. i want to thank the supervisors who introduced the resolution about the morning show on kpfa. when you have local programming that deals with area news, it's really important, the morning show has been a really important vehicle for talking about what's happening in the bay area. we have so few news outlets. "the examiner" is not really a strong newspaper. "the chronicle" has shrunken and we don't have local news.

and so kpfa is the biggest wattage of the public radio in northern california. it is a huge area and it covers what happens here in oakland, emeryville, in fresno and really gives news for northern california. and i think there's an appropriate time for the boards of supervisors to say something and losing a local program that deals with news at nonprofit level is a huge hole. it is a huge hole in my life every morning from 7:00 to 9:00 to not have any local news. thank you very much. >> thanks. next speaker. >> good evening, supervisors. anthony fess, 20-year san francisco resident and newscaster at kpfa since 1994 -- or 1995, rather.

i'd like to speak in opposition to the measure about the morning show. i suspect you meant well and wanted to support the station but, you know, it's inequitable to prepare a resolution that speaks only to one program and to one particular labor concern. for example, there was no resolution brought before the board earlier this year when the excellent middle east reporter, norah barros friedman from the flash point program had her hours cut in half and subsequently had to leave kpfa because she couldn't live on a halftime income. so it's things like that that convince me that the board ought not to take sides in this particular controversy. i would say, too, as regards to the language of the resolution,

the layoffs are creating conditions that undermine the democratic spirit. i have no idea what's meant by that. this is a labor management issue. it's between management and the c.w.a. by the way, let me add that the majority of workers at kpfa are unpaid. i'm unpaid. the vast majority of us are unpaid. the c.w.a. didn't want us -- the prior union represented paid and unpaid. so i would urge you to not to vote on this, or at least wait until you've p -- you have a chance to get a full set of opinions on both sides on this issue. thank you. >> i'm going to ask you to vote against the kpfa resolution and i'm particularly going to ask you to vote against it in steve connally's memory.

if he were here, if he were alive today he would ask you to vote against this. i can absolutely assure you of that. i'd like to make sure this audio visual works does -- what do i have to do -- there. ok. just want to make sure -- ok. i'm still a district 8 voter, a journalist, a contribute to the bay view, global research and news line e.a., east africa. i'm also a reporter for kpfa weekend news where i have no union representation. in the last two years i've been an expert guest on the kpfa morning show, kpfa flash points, chicago public radio world beat, voice of the cape, drive time south africa, pirate cat radio and earth sickles.net in india country. i radio and if i'm i think a lot about radio and if i'm go i think a lot about radio and if i'm going to go to the trouble to be a guest in radio i make sure it gets to the people that care about it, it

gets to africa or indian country if that's what people talking about. and i really wish somebody was listening to me here. to come down here, it's just so rude. i'm here to oppose board item number 60, the resolution regarding kpfa radio. it's a very partisan, deeply divisive resolution that will drive another wedge into a so-called progressive community that's already so deeply divided that in san francisco, it wasn't able to get together on anything in november except rafael mantelman and could not even elect him. this resolution supports one show, the kpfa morning show even though flash points and the weekend news have both suffered deeply damaging and arbitrary hours and wage cuts. him >> thank you very much.

>> hi, i'm mara rivera, a long time listener, supporter at kpfa and i commend the supervisors for their attempt to help kpfa resolve its dispute over the morning show layoffs and to protect kpfa, an independent radio station, as noted. but this resolution would instead help continue its destructive course of insolvency. the resolution contains many false premises and inaccuracy which i and bob addressed in our letters of today as well as other letters and articles you received in your packets. and i hope you will consider them before voting and vote no today sending the item to committee. the two morning show hosts were

laid off by pacifica as was necessary measure to immediately stop a financial disaster and they were chosen because of union seniority rules. there was no choice in this as kpfa did not present a balanced budget. it had spent its million dollar surplus and had to borrow to make the last payroll. its parent foundation then had to step in. the pacifica foundation oversees five radio stations and 160 affiliate stations and holds a broadcast license, pays the corporation for public broadcasting, insurance legal free speech radio news and democracy now. if kpfa goes under, so does this unique progressive free speech radio network. the other four stations and pacifica national have made the

necessary staff cuts which pacifica requested three years ago. but a small insider group at kpfa -- >> good evening, supervisors. i'm robert english and am here to also speak against the resolution. just some background, i'm a native and resident of san francisco for most of my life. i retired from civil service with the city and county after 34 years as an administrative assistant and during that time i was active with my union local 790 of sciu and helped found a chapter and represented the p.u.c. chapter and the bargaining unit and union council. i also was a founding member of the public employees for a democratic union in 2005 and also have been a long time active listener and supporter of kpfa. now, as a union man and from a union family, almost always

take the side of the union in any dispute such as the problems we had at have a layo where i now -- at velayo where i now live but can't support the union in this case and have made written comments explaining why. i know this is a well intentioned resolution but unfortunately interposes the board on one side of a long time, complex struggle and the progressive kpfa community and believe it will offend as many of your constituents as it will please. and unfortunately, it's supporting the interests and continuing of kpfa by an old guard insider staff click who's always opposed democratic governments and listener participation in the affairs of the station. also, it's not in the interest of the majority of kpfa workers who are volunteers, some salaried workers who aren't even represented by a union and it's not in the issue of the

governance and well-being of the entire pacifica network. the network is practically insolvent and bankrupt. layoffs had to be made and let me explain that kpfa and pacifica are -- >> thank you. next speaker. thank you very much. >> thank you, my name is kim waldron. i hadn't planned on speaking today but after hearing some of the comments, i felt i needed to speak and thank you for the letter that you're planning in support about kpfa. i am not connected with kpfa management. i am not connected with the communication workers, but i have worked in the labor movement for 30 years. and i paid careful attention to what was going on when the morning program was canceled because i couldn't figure out why it was canceled for financial reasons. you would cancel the number one

fundraising program on the station. so i listened carefully to what the executive director had to say about this matter and in my considered opinion, there are -- this is not a labor dispute, it's a power dispute but the manage is in error of violating both the labor law and common sense, and i do again urge you to go ahead with what you'd planned and thank you for paying attention to it. >> hello there, i'm brian edwards, one of the two hosts of kpfa morning show who were given termination notices last month. for six years i served as an elected staff representative on kpfa's local station board. i want to speak in support of your resolution number 60 and make a few very quick points. first of all, the argument that you heard that this was -- these layoffs were a measure to somehow save kpfa financially rings terribly false given the morning show is the station's top fundraiser and largest profit center and raise three

times what we cost. pacifica has already lost more in the fundraising days that it had to cancel and the subscription it had terminated by donors than it will save in the course of an entire fiscal year but not paying our salaries which are minimal. second, the way the layoffs were carried out were clear breaches of the seniority professions of our union contract. i myself am senior to five people still on payroll whose positions i'm qualified to do. pacifica has not even been willing to sit down and do routine negotiations over our seniority rights. we want to work this out. the support group save kpfa has raised enough money in an off-air campaign to pay the salaries of people who have been working on the morning show the next six months while we try to comeup a more permanent solution. what we need is for pacifica to sit down at the table with us in good faith and look for solutions. unfortunately that's not what we're getting and that's where you come in. pacifica has hired an expensive management side law firm to

deal with all of our union's grievances, follinger and levin and represent some of your larger hotel chains in san francisco. what these firms do is tell managers to take hog line positions and increase their number of billable hours and the only ones who winner the attorneys. our station, our community can't afford for this issue to go through an expensive time consuming binding arbitration process. pacifica needs to hear from you as a group not tied up in our internal politics, as a group withstanding in our community and is in the interest of everybody to sit down and resolve this quickly. >> good afternoon, supervisors. eric brooks, san francisco green party. normally don't speak at regular public comment. i'm speaking at it now because i consider this to be very important. i've been a listener of kpfa radio for 16 years. i also listen to a lot of other ultimatetive media on the internet.

i know a lot about what's going on at kpfa, i've read a lot from various sources on both sides about the issue, and i can tell you t sides about the issue, and i can tell you that this issue is far more complex than is addressed in the resolution with all due respect to the sponsors of the resolution who i have deep respect for all of them. i can tell you that when the resolution says that the layoffs of two members of the morning show are what created the current disruption at kpfa, i'm sorry but that's just not the case. the disruptions began much farther back than that and they have to do with democratic process at kpfa. as you heard, the previous union for the kpfa workers represented the nonpaid staff as well as the paid staff and the nonpaid staff make up 80% of the workers at kpfa.

the new union does not formally recognize and protect those workers and include them in the democratic process. so i can't explain the whole thing in the next 30 seconds but there's a much deeper level to all this, and because programmers that are on the side that is saying yes, support the resolution spent a couple of months using a lot of their air time to argue their side of the story. the other side of the story of democracy at kpfa has been lost. tracy rosenburg with media alliance, a well respected media analyzer has come out -- >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> ladies and gentlemen, my name is -- [inaudible] >> to be honest with you, i [inaudible] >> to be honest with you, i

don't know the board as supervisor is great for you, i'm going to count on you as our santa claus. today you make me happy like you make the rest of the city. the reason i'm happy, to sign and you agree to keep it, there is all american cup in my city does give us big, big, good chance to have a business. i am designer, i am beginning tonight to make some design and i would like the rest of my city to give a warm welcome to the tourists and everyone going to visit my city on the future. it doesn't know that a lot of people, lot of hotel have lost their own jobs but for now on i would like to thank each one of you for what you did today, include our mayor. i think it is good action to

raise my city walk again and let our restaurant open their own door to tell the tourists as i tell them before, welcome. we lost millions when the mayor used to be supervisor. he remember that. and i am very glad to tell you i love you and the mayor, tell me this is not public comment, i asked him, he said i see you. i watch every one of you, what you said and what you talk. now we give him his intention and he give us our attention and we must give my city attention. is the time to work. is the time to bring money for my city. and before i go outside this door, i would like to tell you in my deep heart, god bless each one of you. >> thank you. next speaker.

>> respected board members and respected chairmen of the board , my name is sar rendawa and am a past member of kpfa board for five years, six years, and i've been past five years board member of pacifica national board where i served as a board member, vice chair and then chair. i have come here to ask you to support this very mild resolution. there are all + resolution. i think that there are all types of ideas here, people saying how complex the situation is, but in my mind when i began to serve on these boards there were two fundamental ideals which i wanted to uphold and one was autonomy and freedom for the programmers to create a work, writers, thinkers, musicians,

and without any interference from outside agencies. through the life history of this institution, over last 60 years, pacifica has gone into ups and downs but a few times, forces from outside have tried to take over the station and tried to mandate what they think they ought to serve this community. i think at issue is the freedom of expression of this community and to reflect ideals in the institution of kpfa radio station. and for that reason alone, i think that somebody from thousands of miles away, completely oblivious to the needs of the community to come and yank out one of the most forward programs on the station and put in turmoil, i think it's -- this resolution is so mild, i think it ought to be amended and perhaps even put stronger language in there to look up pacifica national board

know that this community and its value will be upheld. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in general public comment? seeing none, general public comment is closed. madam clerk can you read the adoption without the committee reference count p l. items 59-66 are for immediate unanimous adoption. these items will be acted upon by a single roll call vote if a member requests an item will be called separately and matter considered. >> colleagues, would anyone like to sever items? supervisor alioto--peer. item 59. >> yes, please. item 59 and if supervisor avalos does not sever 60 i'd like to sever 60. >> supervisor avalos [ >> item 60. >> any other items? if we could take a roll call vote on item 61 through 66.

>> supervisor alioto-here. >> aye. >> supervisor avalos? >> aye. >> avalos aye. supervisor campos? >> aye. prosecutor president chue? >> aye. >> supervisor chu? >> aye. >> supervisor daily? >> aye. >> supervisor dufty? >> aye. >> supervisor elsburnd aye. >> supervisor mar [ >> aye. >> supervisor maxwell of >> aye. >> supervisor markarimi. >> aye. >> there are 11 ayes. >> the resolutions are adopted. item 59. >> resolution condemning the anti-italian remarks made at the planning commission. >> supervisor alito-peer. >> colleagues, last week we discussed a little bit the anti-cy civilian technically remarks made at the planning commission by supervisor suguya. i would like to say he has apologized both publicly at the

commission meeting and privately through a letter he has i think pretty widely disseminated. it was a very gracious apology and would like to thank him for it and would like to table item 59. >> supervisor alito peer, made a motion and seconded by supervisor dufty. colleagues, can we do that without objection? without objection item 5 will be tabled. item 60. >> item 60 is a resolution supporting the kpfa morning show. >> supervisor avalos? >> thank you, colleagues. i would like to actually have this voted on today. i'm a long term listener and member of kpfa radio, probably over a decade and i've been an aindividual listener. -- the avid listener. the morning show brings coverage to a lot of the issues concern to us and our constituents across the bay area and the world. i can't think of a better source of information to provide the constituents with

knowledge what's happening around the world. so it's difficult for me to see the station having such difficulty. i would agree with mr. brooks who spoke at public comment and said there's been disruption at the station much earlier. yes, there has. but this latest layoffs of the morning show and cancellation of the morning show created even greater disruption especially the listener audience who come to rely on the morning show for their news. and information and is an innocuous resolution and had a original resolution much more strident in its urging and concern about what happened at the station. this to me is really expressing concern and calling on the parties related to the crisis and kpfa working things out and is something we should support