rules? >> and the general order to affect july 14 and it was five weeks after the bulletin was issued. commissioner davis: it is not retroactive, right? >> as of june 3, 2010 to where we are right now. commissioner davis: in terms of behavior that has gone on so far. if the behavior that was inconsistent and before this issue, it is not in violation of this order and is not a retroactive -- >> the bulletin is not retroactive. >> when can we expect the dgo? and are you going to confirm with the occ?

>> they will shepherd this whole thing through the process. the role that we were playing was to actually go out and put something on paper. we are very far along in that process and we are ready to meet with the command of our department. at that point, they are going to ensure -- even the city attorney is already involved in the process now. and after that, it is my understanding that it would be ready to come forth you. >> the people that have interest in this are taught to? >> i am sure that will happen. >> we have had a number of these

over the years, and every time we go back in here and we get one of these pieces of force, it is really good that we put it in this form, a bulletin. even though it is not in that format, it is the law of the land. i just want to make sure, i know every instance has its own certain stance. but to me, it is pretty clear. if i am wrong, i just want to make sure that i am not misunderstanding that. those other cases that we have seen. >> be vehicle being considered the only weapon.

and placing yourself in harm's way, we have a number of those, too. it means to provide some clarity because the other thing i have heard is the policy has not been clear. this seems to be pretty straightforward, and although each case has its own circumstance, it seems to me to be pretty clear how you should act in these circumstances. if my perceptions are correct, just tell me. if i was an officer and i read this, i would have a pretty good idea of how to act in those circumstances when there is a vehicle involved. >> this bulletin would be part of the review process from june 3 of this year and to where we are today.

>> this bulletin, the wording appears clear, but it doesn't seem to have worked out like it is supposed to. we have seen a couple of cases where they have not been followed. i wanted definitely encourage you to confer and get their take on this. and try to get us with a set date. i am wondering january 26, the last wednesday of the month would be reasonable time line for the community meeting? 12 as though we have, it looks like. >> i want to commend the city attorney that has been working very hard on this. she might be a good person to

ask, commissioner. >> it might be hard to come up with a date with the holidays coming up. it might be hard to get all of the parties together and have the meeting that is required. i would suggest that you look at the first meeting of february if you want the documents to go through a thorough and comprehensive review. >> we will do that for the first week of february. >> thank you very much. >> the occ director report and recent activities. >> members of the audience, you

already have the statistical report on your consent calendar. but also in november, the facilitated the mediation of three complaints. in addition to our investigation and mediation activities, will also participate in every. we describe our functions to individuals that were interested. that concludes my report. >> the commission president's report and the commissioner's reports. >> i did write a lungs on

saturday with the men and lemon of central station during the daytime. being a prosecutor means informed being -- means being informed with what is happening on the streets. this dovetails with one of the biggest issues. in that four-hour. -- four hour peio,d the -- period, they were union square shoppers. people that were mentally ill are sitting there talking to themselves. the treat them with compassion. they are committing small crimes in trying to urge them to move on. two of them said they were

immediately contacting the occ . the officers have to deal with quite a bit out there in the streets. they are not psychologists for psychotherapists. it turns out one of these people as a convicted sex offender. again, the work was great. a call came out over the air, and the cooperation of this one call, a woman got off the bus in chinatown and her 6-year-old son did not get off the bus. immediately, they had a cantonese speaking officer there and we had officers coming in from the motorcycle units volunteering to stop the buses throughout the city. she had a disabled child and shopping bags.

it was incredible. if found them heading back and walking back to his house. it was a pretty scary thing. again, i urge all of the commissioners to do that. i rode with a very experienced police officer. they just received the award. how incredible experience. we are having a meeting. we're going to deal with these issues. we're going to have a full period about officer issues. lead to get the message out that the officers are getting the brunt of this and we need more participation from other agencies. i would like to hear from the officers.

one guy they couldn't even arrest because it was a high of unit. it was amazing what they did. we are going to have that meeting and i want to make that a priority with the commission. there was recently an officer- involved shooting. and the call to service was numerous. the offices are picking of the brunt of that. that is my report. i apologize if it is of little long. >> this is a follow-up to the same thing as your ride-along, commissioner. i had a right along scheduled for the bayview district in january, and i am arranging with captains who were the other is

to have a town hall meeting that occurred last night and i attended that. there were about 30 neighbors in the area that attended that meeting together with the captain as well as the supervisor of elections. the object of the meeting was to talk about citizens' concerns in the neighborhood and around pedestrian crossing, and in particular, the bridges and whether there should be partial closures or whether there was lighting or other preventive measures that would be like a partial closing. there was not a resolution last night, but statistics regarding those types of crimes were provided by the police department.

it was enlightening to be there and hear some of the concerns of the neighbors and how they are addressing it. in getting the concerns. >> i am not sure if the assistant chief wants to speak to this, but i know that chief gaston is sending 3 sfpd representatives to memphis to ride along with their police officers to observe how they respond to the mentally ill using a crisis intervention teams.

in this area of making policy recommendations of how officers could interact. commissioner hammer: in the issue of dna and rape cases, we hear the horror stories. i have some good news is that i want to share. listen to this. rickets have to be picked up within 72 hours in the department is committed to testing every single rape kit incidences' go within 14 days. compared to where we were six months ago and five years ago, it is manhattan, a great problem

-- it is a stunning and great progress. i wanted to mention the woman that was murdered. they sat there for over two years, and while and sat there, the man raped other women. if we had tested that sample within 14 days, we would have found a hit because he was in prison for slashing a woman in the face with a razor. this is real life and death kind of stuff. it is really together with capt. -- really making tremendous progress.

and for them to come back with the commission on where they were, cuda's to them -- kudos to them. >> any public comment regarding the chief's report? getting quicker, clyde. >> i would like to clarify the murders. [unintelligible] >> dr. marshal wants to pu tyou ot you on the payroll . >> this in the afternoon chasing

around drought santa clauses. -- drunk santa clauses. [laughter] >> it wasn't me. >> anit was quite the scene, i tell you. item number 4. >> routine administrative business. >> just a reminder that next week closing commission meeting will be a medal of valor ceremony. it will be at 5:00 p.m. december 15 at the mission bay conference center. 1675 owens street. >> that is part of the new

mission bay complex. i strongly urge the public to be present havre the award of these metals of valor to the officers. there are several gold medals and bronze medals. their heroism is just incredible and there will be a full presentation. i encourage everybody to attend. >> are we also dark on of the twenty second at 29? in-house-- 22nd and 29th? i just wanted to let everybody know. and >> we were looking in

january. we will post that since we have it. we have been the contact of northern station. and with reference to line item b, consideration for future commission meetings. i think we have picked a february 2 for the deal with the revision and adoption of a general overhaul about discharging a firearm. i said earlier, it will be a meeting closed myself regarding the mental health issue, so will be scheduling a hearing. we want to hear from the officers that are out in the streets each station make a represent -- send a representative.

toolee also schedule early in the year, her discussion of the priorities for the calendar for issue going forward? he spent considerable time during our retreat setting our objectives and our criteria for priorities and selecting priorities. we made an attempt to put them in order at that time. should we revisit that to make sure that we get these items on the calendar? commissioner hammer: one of these that finished some months ago, are these definitely set in january? that is all i had. >> item 5 is a public comment on all matters relating --

pertaining to close the session, including the vote on whether to go into closed session. >> public comments regarding closed session items? they are disciplinary matters because they are involved with the decision by the california supreme court. call item no. 6. >> a vote on whether to hold closed session? >> we are now moving into closed session. we will stay >> commissioners, we are back in open session. >> item 8 is a vote whether to let any or all discussion held in closed session.

>> second. >> all in favor, aye. >> before moving to line item 9, i'd like to adjourn tonight's commission hearing public comment. seeing none? thank you. i'd reich to adjourn our meeting tonight in honor of gary hazelhof if er. he recently retired. he leaves behind a wife and two children. he was a dedicated member much our san francisco police department and he will be missed by this police family and by his family. i worked with gary as a prosecutor, and he always had a smile on his face, and he always had a good thing to say. reading some of the comments in his owe pitch ri -- obituary talking about the other officers and what true partners they were. i would like to adjourn tonight's hearing in honor of former police officer gary

hazelhoffer. >> second. >> the time is 7:18. [at 7:18 p.m. the meeting is adjourned]

supervisor campos: good morning, everyone. welcome to the january 3, 2011 meeting of the board of supervisors to rules committee. my name is david composts, the chair of the committee. to my left is the committee vice chair, michaele alioto-pier.

to my right is committee members supervisor eric mar. the clerk of the committee is linda wong. we want to thank the sfgtv staff for covering this today. thank you all for being here and those of you watching. happy new year. best wishes for all of you for 2011. madam clerk, do we have any announcements? >> the items on the agenda today are intended to be sent to the full body unless otherwise indicated. supervisor campos: we have a number of items on the agenda today. before we begin, i know john avalos wanted to sit dowin on te meeting. i understand he will be here

shortly. i think supervisor dufty may be coming in as well. before we begin, i thought we would give the supervisor an opportunity. ok, supervisor avalos is here. we have been joined by supervisor avalos, the chair of the budget committee, representing district 11. good morning. >> good morning. thank you for having me here, chair campos, colleagues. what i am about to do today is perhaps unpopular, perhaps not welcome by pierre -- people who are here today but i have a concern about the board of supervisors being asked to make appointments to concur with mayor appointments for commission while the mayor has

delayed his swearing in in sacramento so as to avoid this current board making appointments for the interim mayor position. to me, the mayor cannot have it both ways. i would ask that we delay -- there are people in the audience here who want to be appointed who i support. but i feel we are making a strong statement if we except the mayor delaying him being sworn in in sacramento so that he candlelight the business -- he can delay the business as usual politics here. the board has a responsibility to make an appointment. the mayor ran for lieutenant governor and one. he should be sworn in with all of the current statewide representatives, governor, secretary of state, attorney

general, who are being sworn in today. that is consistent, what the people of california voted for. that is why the democratic party supported mayor gavin newsom. we should have a new lieutenant governor today sitting in sacramento in office. we should not have a republican lt. gov. waiting in the wings for gavin newsom to replace him one week from now, two weeks from now. that is not how she would be -- how we should be doing politics in sacramento. frankly, i am alarmed that we are at this state right now in san francisco. supervisor campos: supervisor alioto-pier? supervisor alioto-pier: i just want to make sure with our city attorney that this is in a corporate conversation to be having. it is not on the agenda -- supervisor campos: my

understanding is these are items on the agenda. in the context of discussing these items, we can take into consideration the political reality we are facing in san francisco, which is exactly what supervisor avalos was referring -- >> not that we reject the people before us but that we continue the items until we have some sense of what is going to happen with the chaos being created here in california and san francisco. supervisor campos: if i may, let me first of all began by thanking you for coming to the committee. anyone who has watched the way you do your job and those that you are very careful about any statement that you make. i think the statement you made about the reality of these appointments is something that comes from a realization, that we have a unique situation

happening here, one that requires a lot of thought and consideration. the reality is, what we have done, as a committee, so that the public knows, is from the beginning trying to be very accommodating to mayor newsom. the bulk of these appointments were made very late in the administration. in fact, the bulk of them were made on december 1, way past the time that we had already scheduled the last committee meeting of this body. nonetheless, out of respect for the office of the mayor, we went ahead and scheduled a special meeting because we wanted to work with the mayor and accommodate him because we have consistently tried to demonstrate this board is willing to work with mayor newsom. but what he is doing is essentially questioning the legitimacy of this board. he is essentially