i have never spoke about him being interim mayor, which has really rocketed in the last 24 to 48 hours. we were considering him with others before, but, really, what this does buy him being inserted in this process is that it almost belies the gestures and overtures by the administration that they are looking for a common denominator candidates, and i think great effort was made here today, as has been said earlier, that one of those candidates was sheriff mike hennessey, based on comments made in the press by mayor newsom, and if there are people, supervisors who are representing ed lee, via what the newsom

administration is saying, that belies the very sentiment of looking for some unified approach. it has not happened, so i think it is only prudent that you do your best to shop before you buy. we know ed lee. he has been extremely effective as a public servant and as a leader in the department, but no conversations have taken place whatsoever, and you're completely absent without any context or narrative except through hearsay that is now being inserted by people here on behalf of the administration or ed lee from china, india, we do not have information. at least give we are to rally around a central person, then i would ask those who are trying

to solidify this point -- pick mr. lee today to give us the same courtesy that we were trying to do for the consensus candidate but he administration. if not, then something else is amiss here, it is something else is amiss, but i think what that does is it spoils the very process that i think we are now engaged in. it bespeaks of unknowns that people are going to be absolutely insisted in determining how these ships of alliances occurred before our very eyes, -- how these ships -- shifts have occurred. there is partisanship and the last several hours. i think that was not the case when other candidates were put

forward, with, i think, immersed -- most earnestness. president chiu: supervisor alioto-pier? supervisor alioto-pier: this is the first time that we as a body have had a conversation about in mr. mayor and the prospects of interim mayor, so the idea that there were alliances that were in place that have now shifted is a little misconstrued, considering this is the fact that this is the first time we have had this public dialogue. what i would like to remind all of us is what we're doing here tonight is somewhat symbolic and note we have a mayor of san francisco. that mayor of san francisco has not left the position. he is now claiming to do so until the board is in place, so ultimately, it looks like, and from the advice we have gotten from counsel, really what this

board does is more of a statement to the next board what we would like. it does not mean that this is what the next board will do, and so let's not forget that when supervisor campos says that he has not had conversations with mr.. lee, that opportunity will be available for you until the new board is put in place, so what we're doing tonight is we're saying as the current board of the city and county of san francisco what we are looking for and what we would like to see, but what the new board actually puts forward is going to be what actually has standing and what actually takes place, so let's consider that in the rest of our deliberations and in our final vote, and i do think that with the four of us that is leading that there is a statement to be made in the type of person we would like to see

set forward and the type of person that we believe would be the best candidate for this particular job, but to koran because all of us up and sitting here for at least two years, and those of a suit are leaving have been here for at least six years, some 14 years. supervisors maxwell aned -- and daly have been here for 10 years, and regardless, and what they have to say is important. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you, supervisor alioto-pier. supervisor campos. supervisor campos: because you had mentioned to me, i know the boat has to be ratified, but i do believe that before we act on a substantive motion, which is the nomination of someone, that

we should have the information that we need to make an informed decision, and it is not, again, but i question mr. lee, on the contrary, i have always been very open to him, but i think he deserves that, and i do think it is a disservice like him. that is what i am asking for. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. supervisor david chiu. president chiu: this is what is called the pre-ratification vote. this is not the permanent decision. under the procedure that we had decided a number of weeks ago,

an appointment is not considered final until there is a vacancy, and there is no vacancy, as the deputy city attorney told us, and the board must ratify any prospective appointment when a vacancy arises, so, again, next tuesday, we are going to have to go through this again, and it turns out that the full board of supervisors, three of them are folks who have voted for mr. lee, so there will be a real vetting process over the next week, but i would say the we have all work more closely with ed lee than any of the other people who have been nominated tonight, given the breadth of his experience. everyone fundamentally trusts his integrity. everyone fundamentally trusts his competence. everyone fundamentally trusts the breadth and depth of his knowledge of city government,

whether it is car sharing issues or contract issues -- we can run the gamut of the hundreds of issues that he has worked on for the city over the past few decades. i do hope that by the next revocation votes that we're all together united, because we need to stand to get the united. colleagues, we have too many challenges in the city to deal with, and we need to move beyond this false sense of partisanship here. we need to address and attack the serious issues that are facing us right now. and, colleagues, that is what i hope we can all do by next week. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. supervisor avalos. i believe you intimated a motion, but i did not hear a

second on the motion. supervisor avalos: right, and i want to continue on the conversation a little more. supervisor mirkarimi: right. supervisor avalos: i do not feel right making such a big vote, even if we have to ratify it next week. i do not think that making such a big decision about who our interim mayor is going to be without having all the time we need to really vet the candidate the way we would like to is the appropriate way to go, and, colleagues, i would really like to have the courtesy of the time to meet with ed lee to have that conversation. i do not think it is asking too much to have that continuance to do it. we can find a consensus that we do not have right now. i do not know if we will of a full consensus, but i would like

that courtesy from you guys. i do not think it is asking very much, and i think it is the right way to make a decision on something that is so momentous as to who is going to be the mayor, in the mayor's office in the next year. so i would like to continue this. i am not sure when ed lee is coming back. that is a very difficult thing to predict. i have heard that it will be sunday. asking him to come back early from hong kong, we could meet by friday late afternoon. we can see if we can continue the meeting at that time in recess this item until 3:00 on friday afternoon. supervisor mirkarimi: supervisor avalos, you have a date certain? a time? supervisor avalos: 3:00. supervisor mirkarimi: simply

following the loss of etiquette. supervisor avalos: with all due respect, colleagues, i could have a conversation on the phone with him by friday. i do not think it is unfair for me to ask of my colleagues on the board so i could have a conversation. i would give the same courtesy, as well. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you, supervisor avalos. supervisor campos: i think because we're talking about a symbolic vote, i think somebody referred to that. i think there is something about symbolism. i think symbolism matters, and i think there is symbolism in trying to get as much support for this individual as we possibly can. i actually think that the symbolism of having as many

members of this board behind mr. lee is something that is worth waiting for, and i do think that symbolism matters, and i do think that we have an obligation to make sure that whoever is elected is as successful as possible. supervisor mirkarimi: madam clerk? supervisor avalos. supervisor avalos: i would also give me the courtesy of not making an outburst when someone else is speaking. supervisor mirkarimi: madam clerk, since there appears to be no other speakers, then roll call, please. clerk calvillo: of the motion to continue item 26 until friday at

3:00 p.m., [reading roll] there are six ayes and five noes. [applause] president chiu: soca colleagues, this item has been continued until january 7, this friday, a special meeting at the board, 3:00 p.m. [gavel] colleagues, we still have two in paris of items, and i believe that one was offered by boat

supervisor alioto-pier -- by supervisor alioto-pier. clerk calvillo: yes, on behalf of supervisor alioto-pier, to have someone named. president chiu: we have a motion and a second. any public comment? can we take this item without objection? without objection, this appeared to biden is passed. supervisor dufty has, if i can ask individuals to please leave the chamber is why we are still conducting business? the second imperative item. clerk calvillo: family service agency day, to recognize the

121st year of reform, innovation, and concern for the most vulnerable of san franciscans. president chiu: is there a second? second by supervisor alioto- pier. is there any public comment? colleagues, can we take this important item without objection? without objection, as indicated. ladies and gentlemen, can you please take your conversations out in the hallway? thank you. out of respect for the in memorials. clerk calvillo: today's meeting will be adjourned on behalf of

the following people, supervised el wrotesber -- supervisor elsbernd. item 26 will be recessed, and, mr. president, if you can direct me to process the remaining items from the agenda? president chiu: the meeting will be recessed until 3:00 on friday. that was item 26. now, if we can call -- clerk calvillo: today's meeting will be adjourned on behalf of the following people. [reading in memoriums] president chiu: colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, do we have

any more business in front of the board today? given that, colleagues, happy new year. item 26 is recessed. the rest of the meeting is adjourned for the rest of the evening. governor welcome to culturewire. on march 18 the san francisco arts commission hosted the 2010 mayor's artwork. the mayor's arts award was established to honor an individual artist with a lifetime of outstanding achievement in the art and civic life. this year's award is to none

other than carlos santana. before the award ceremony, the director of cultural affairs had a chance to sit down with carlos to ask him a few questions. >> once a year, mayor gavin newsom gets to select one distinguished individual to receive the mayor's arts award. in 2010,á(át that distinguished individual was none other than the legendary musician carlos santana. carlos, it is so great for the city to be able to recognize you. given all of your accomplishments already, from the awards, all of the other distinctions you have received, what does it mean for you to get the mayor's part award?

>> i am very grateful, moved. i always want to be in the company of illuminaries like cesar chavez. people making a difference, but to people's hearts. giving people a sense of tangible hope. one thing is to be famous, it is quite another for people to like you. i am grateful for this award. it is another blessing. i do not take it for granted. this is an incredible city. everywhere i go, i tell everyone that this is the atlantis of today. there is no other city in the world -- i have been everywhere.

there is nothing like san francisco. in fact, to me, it is not even the united states. you can see how fox network always attacks us. we do not have an inferiority complex. we just do not follow blindly. we question authority. as i said before, a person for person, there are more artists and con artists in the bay area. >> you are someone who has identified so strongly with the bay area. a lot of it reflects the values that you also identify with. i know that you have been promoting an idea for a work of public art that could be pretty transformative. could you talk about that?

>> peace brother is something that i saw, i think in the 1980's there was this lady. she started back there and converted -- she went to the neighborhood and was collecting the guns from some of the gang members. she had it melted and turned into angels. we want to do the same thing and take it to the next level we want to build a boom box by his feet, he will be 7 feet tall. this will be made up of military guns. the boom box will be playing some great songs. marvin gaye. john legenlennon. bob marley. sam cooke. >> songs that really touch people deeply. >> i have come to a place where

i call it the sound of maternity. bob dylan calls it eternal young. i think there are certain songs that help you live without fear. when you are living in fear, you invest in violence. fear is expensive, just ask president bush. inn love. and what marvin gaye says is true, war is not the answer, only love can conquer hate. these things are not cliches, they are truisms. if we implement them, you will see a transformation in the bay area, richmond, oakland, the mission. all places where we need to

dismantle the violence, the fear, the unnecessary pain that goes on. >> you are a person that has lived a pretty miraculous life. pretty extraordinary what you have accomplished, the range of people you have been able to touch with your music. you chose a beautiful word in spanish for your foundation -- miracle. could you talk about what the foundation has been able to do? >> we are able to empower and give young people a way for them to develop their own decisions. i started with my own vision. there are people like andre agassi who helped finance. desmond tutu. in essence, in the bay area,

like on larkin street, i want to see people invest more in people. i love the giants stadium, but i want to see cumins investing in a humans, instead of expensive. expensive buildings. i love to see the mayor and governor invest more in education than in incarcerations. so i am committed with the music and the platform that i have, if i have to, to give a little spanking to those who need to break up. we spend way too much on weapons. all the money that we spend on tv advertising, gears of war, that is stupidity. in new zealand, they passed a law that said that you could not sell it.

all those games about killing people. they do not want it. to me, i'd equate that with columbine, with war. once you desensitize a human being, you cannot tell the difference between shooting someone in a video game and a real person. some people can be gentle and kind. i can be ghetto when i want to be. i grew up with the black panthers doing peace and freedom benefits for them. so on the one hand i like the softness of spirituel the day, but i also like the energy that you need to be a warrior where you need to be. i love martin luther king, but also malcolm x, sometimes you

have to really hold your ground. compassion, kindness, education. rather than more killing. >> when you graduated in 1965, it was the height of the civil- rights movement. you just alluded to the environment that you were growing up in. as a young musician, what was it like for you in san francisco at the time? >> it was heaven on earth. we would go down to the fillmore and see these great band, the doors, and jimi hendrix, cream, and then go down to the grove to see other music. you could go to the mission district to hear mexican. everywhere i went there was this

multi dimensional color and i felt like it was on necessary for me to do just one. like baskin-robbins, i want all the flavors. you cannot just be a mexican play music. there is a lot of beauty in that, but it was not for me. i was born without arms around my heart that wants to embrace everything. palestine's, israelis. japanese, apaches. i am more concentrated with life and love than flags, nationality, religion. that stuff gets in the way. one gets in the way is me, myself, my story. for me, that is why music is

liberating. when you hear "imagine" anywhere in the world, people sang the lyrics. as soon as you hear the melody -- same thing with a bob marley song. i grew up taking everything from bob dylan, curtis mayfield, the beatles, smokey robinson. mike alma mater was the streets of san francisco. i would dare to go to school. where i really hung out was at the fillmore. that was my university, checking out be the king, and james brown, a cream. finding out how they were able to penetrate people's hearts. with their music. once you do that, something happens to their eyes.

they become brighter. they start crying, they do not know why. they start dancing. it is like when a woman gives birth. =mmfirst, she cries and then she laughs. later on, she dances. and that, to me, is the beauty of what san francisco is about. >> one final question, and we are going to link it to your music today. such a rich legacy that you are giving us. you mentioned to me that you are working on a new album. could you share what is coming up? >> i love to dream when i am awake. kand so i had this dream of working with india arie and yo- yo ma to do