presenting this trading at one rate, and we needed to find a way to accelerate that, that we could ensure that all of the important elements were in there and that we could do it responsibly and do it regularly at a more accelerated pace, and it takes time to do that. it takes time to develop that, and a lot of work was put into that, and we are very proud. we need our officers to have this training, to get that. it takes time and effort to put these things in order. commissioner dejesus: the was in charge of this last year? i know it was not you, because you are new. who was in charge? and do we have in the budget the money to do it additional classes to get the entire force trained? -- to do additional classes? >> we have budgeted this out.

commissioner dejesus: 4300? >> we know what it will cost to do this class. -- for the 300? the majority of the cost for presenting this class is money's needed -- moneys needed to bring in the first line, and experian to information are officers need. korea -- forest lawn, experiential -- first line, experiential information our officers need. i was not involved in the decisionmaking process in 2000, but that is why we looked at an outside location to provide the training. that was probably one of the reasons.

you just spent three years doing this at a very high rate while continuing freshman trading -- training and technology training. so you had a tremendous number of different trainings that were going on at your facility. and now, you have an opportunity to use that facility for this training. and that is going to, you know, involve a number of days in the building and schedule and officers away from the street and rotating but -- that, all while you have a reduced number of officers on the street. so you have to be able to schedule officers to go away from their primary duty operations. you need to do it at a measured pace that the stations and investigation bureaus can handle, and so that is part of this consideration, 2:00 p.m., to room do you have at your

facility? how many officers can you poll from all of the areas at one time -- can you pull? i totally respect your passion on this issue. they have what we for our officers, but training is a balance, and we have to find ways to move in and get it going on a regular basis that is much faster, and this is three times the rate that we have done over 10 years. commissioner slaughter: i am not really good at math, but if you say that, that is $96 thousand if you are training once a month for these officers. first, it is $1.20 million to buy the tasers, and you would have to train that. you just cannot handle a taser and send them on the street.

-- handed them a taser. are we going to get educated and trained officers to deal with the mental health issue on the streets, where are we just want to buy new weapons to use against the mental health? the same amount of time for training. i guess what we should do is concentrate on the budget that comes up and make sure the we have $200,000 in the training for mental health, you know? -- that we have $200,000? i hear what you are saying, but it really comes to wear your priority is, and it doesn't really sound like you have had the priority -- it really comes to knowing where your priority is. who leads this department and where the priorities lie is really going to answer this question. president mazzucco: before we continue, i just want to caution the commission. obviously, this is not an agenda item, so it is not on for full conversation, which it has

turned into, but i want to make sure that with my conversation with a couple of commissioners, we need to separate the taser issue from the mental health issue, and we are going to do that. and i disagreed with you on that issue, commissioner dejesus. tasers r. hopefully not going to be used on mentally ill patients but used on dangerous individuals who have only a desire to attack and injure our officers and other people in the public. they will be used on individuals who unfortunately are under the influence of narcotics, and as we learned last time, those are the people that this does not work on. the traditional beanbag and pepper spray, they do not work. this is not for the sole purpose of tasering the mentally ill. that is preposterous, and that is not consistent with this. i want to separate those issues.

i think professionally we should, but i just want to make that clear. commissioner dejesus: commissioner mazzucco, you do not speak for this body. this body will determine if we separate them. i feel strongly about that, and we have to follow the procedure, and not one commissioner can speak for the entire body, and i am sorry. i read the articles, and every time tasers come up, there is propaganda that is used in the press over and over, and it is disingenuous to say that it is a separate issue. that is the way they are trying to sell it to everybody, and i think that is really improper and inappropriate, and, you know what? we need to be transparent and put it on the table. [applause] president mazzucco: i am well aware of that, and quite

frankly, i, like all of the other commissioners, have just one vote and what to look at this intelligently for the benefit of the community and our officers, so with that in mind, i will turn it over to dr. marshall. >> the conversations that you are going to have, you and commissioner hammer and commissioner chan, can you give me an update on what you are trying to do? >> the department made a trip to memphis, which is a national leader in mental health protocol training. it is actually a whole system, not just a trainee. i believe they have a lot to share -- not just training. they will talk about what are the other elements, because it

is more than about training. training is a very important piece, but there is a whole system that needs to be in place. there will be a big discussion, but it is not the whole discussion. we will put up some proposals about what we think we should put in place in the near future. >> so if i am to hear you, this committee is going to try to improve upon for their best practices? is that correct? supervisor alioto-pier: -- president mazzucco: commissioner slaughter? commissioner slaughter: you said only 120 officers had been trained, and that is contrary to what the chief has said, already accelerating this pace as faced as we can.

of course, we know that we have 2300 or so sworn officers. when you look at that 900, close to 100 officers, you have significantly more actually on the street that have received this training, and to suggest that only 120 have received that is not correct. commissioner dejesus: not in total, last year. commissioner slaughter: commissioner dejesus, a respected your time. i would second what commissioner mazzucco said. i think it is critical that this working group help inform the best practices, and tasers are a

separate issue. we had this discussion last week. i agree with commissioner mazzucco, in terms of how they are going to be dealt with by this commission, i believe they ought to be dealt with separately and to consider their in packs, one on the other. i hope that we treat it as such. president mazzucco: thank you. commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i know the best practice is the 40 hours, and you are taking that, but that is still a heavy trading schedules, and i can appreciate your scheduling demands and costs, and have they

take anything, or is there anything that has been condensed, but not for a replacement, but something that deals with major problems and how they can be handled so that there is maybe a two to four trading that could be perhaps mostly on tape -- a two to four- hour training. that could reach all of the rest of the officers in a relatively short period of time, and then continue to have been scheduled in the 24 hour trainings, but some way to get the very core basics to everybody quickly? i am just dry that up quickly if

that has been considered. >> there is the roll call training program, and the video production unit. we certainly could look at the roll call training program. this is done in a format about what you think is the proper response. a lot of times, we give a scenario to officers. they say, "here is a scenario. what is the proper response?" and then they go back to discussing the scenario, so that is one that method we use to communicate regularly with our officers. the video production unit can also look at streamlining some of this information and producing a video that could be made available to officers for part of their roll call training and shift training. we do not generally do two to four hour blocks.

maybe bringing in the essential elements. i can talk to the inspector about that. >> that was a good suggestion. i appreciate it. commissioner kingsley: thank you. commissioner slaughter: the idea that this is a working group to present for items in the public with public input, because this is the public's business, so i just want to be absolutely clear about that. >> and i would assume this is about mental health. commissioner slaughter: and that is true. the chief is going himself. i want to say this. the conflict and violence and weapons and mental illness. -- conflated violence and weapons. mental illness is an illness.

they are not themselves. they are suffering. i think we all share the same values, but the point is to at all costs avoid violence. to teach our officers that they are to help people, so to give them the very best tools so it never comes to violence. if tasers ever come to become it is not a way to deal with mentally ill people. it is something short of killing a person. that is the only reason. that is the only argument of mine for them. it is one final thing to do before pulling a weapon. shooting folks. i do not want that to be the case. those are confidential personnel matters. but the way to deal with mental illness is with compassion as an illness, not with the violence. i hope we all agree on that. [applause] president mazzucco: we have a lot to deal with tonight.

>> i understand commissioner dejesus' comments to get the officers through the training, and i agree with commissioner chan that we are putting all of our eggs in this 40-hour training, and that would take care of the problem, and that is not the case. i think there has to be more to the equation. mental health professionals and bringing others on board. that 40-hour training is not going to stop all of the shootings. i do not want to give the public is false perception that a 40- hour class is going to take care of the problem. that is not the case, so we really have to concentrate on what we can do to help us with that problem. president mazzucco: commissioner dejesus > -- ? commissioner dejesus: this

trading is the least that we can do for officers, but i agree. president mazzucco: thank you, chief. secretary falvey: we move on to the next one. >> good evening, chief, director hicks, i work for the internal affairs division. tonight, i'm here to duty of your presentations. -- to do the presentations. there was a meeting convened on december 21, 2010.

several members of the command staff as well as commissioner chan and commissioner dejesus and direct hicks attended. there were four officer-involved shootings. we will start with the officer- involved to discharge. that occurred on august 9, 2010. that was found to be not in policy. there is a quick synopsis of the event. i will go over but. the officer, while manipulating his firearm, and intensely discharged his spiral. there were no injuries. it was not in policy.

the first of the four shootings that were involved, the first one was 09-004. this event occurred on september 5, 2009. after reviewing this case, it was found to be in policy. the situation or the incident of the officers dispatched to that street regarding a person. an officer in tarter communicated with the suspect. -- an officer communicator was there. the second officer-involved shooting, 10-001, january 23,

2010. this was found to be in policy. at this event, -- this event, the offices were dispatched -- the officers were dispatched about a possible mental health evaluation. the officers were met at the door by a person with a machete, and the officer discharged a fine european mujica can discharged a firearm. it was also found to be in policy -- and the opposite discharged a firearm. another was found to be in policy. the short synopsis of the event, there were officers trying to make contact, and the vehicle attempted to flee the officers,

driving at the officer, i should say. the officer's life was in danger, and he discharged his handgun. the last occurred july 3, 2010, at broadway street. it was found to be and policy. the short synopsis of the event, the suspect fired a weapon into a crowd of people. >> do you have the status report? >> yes. the second report is the officer involved shooting as of today,

january 18, 2011 -- january 19, 2011. there was the third quarter status report. we had completed four officer- involved shootings, and there have also been five new cases that occurred, five new incidents which occurred, between october and now, so that gives us a tote of 12, a belief -- i believe, and these are open cases as of october 8. those four cases, and we still have six outstanding. five new cases. that gives us 12. 12 open officer-involved

shooting cases and one note open officer-involved discharge. -- and one open officer-involved discharge. and we anticipate that the meeting will convene in march, 2011. we are looking at march 15, 2011. we have not set the date yet, but we are looking at four to five cases at that meeting. >> i am certainly interested in that. president mazzucco: are there any questions? commissioner slaughter?

commissioner slaughter: a couple of questions. the brief synopsis is very useful for us to see. i notice that these are following up on our prior conversations about mental health issues. sometimes, it is clear that there is a suspect -- it may be mental health issues. i would just encourage you for future reference is as we go forward to hearing these reports to make sure that we are informed that the synopsis are clear that these incidents include mental health problems, because i think that will be critical information for the commission to consider, so if you can keep an eye out on that, i would appreciate it. and then, just two comments. and i do not expect you to

really have a response to it, but it was striking to me looking at the reports about the increasing number of officer- involved shootings in 2010 versus prior years, more combined officer-involved shootings in 2010 than in 2008 and 2009 together, and there may be a reason or not, but i think there is certainly something that we should be aware of. we have been focusing a lot, as we should, on mental health issues, but i could not help but looking at the 2010 statistics about the number of accidental or otherwise self-inflicted wounds suffered by officers, and in my view, it is just a heartbreaking issue of there, and i don't know the appropriate way for the condition to focus on that and to consider that,

but when you have two or three self-inflicted wounds by officers in the course of one year, we cannot ignore it, so, sargeant jackson, i appreciate this. president mazzucco: commissioner kingsley? >> thank you. to go one step forward to identify when it has resulted in a death. " thank you. president mazzucco: i just want to thank the commissioner for bringing that up about the self- inflicted wounds. sometimes the public does not appreciate that, given what

offices see on a daily basis, and we pay them to work a ship where they only see mental health issues. sometimes, you have to wonder what the correlation is let's be candid about it, so, again, i commend commissioner slaughter for bringing that up. thank you for bringing that to our attention. president mazzucco: any further questions? let's move to the occ directors' report. i appreciate it. secretary falvey: the occ report. >> this evening, i will discuss occ 2011 statistics and also give you a statistical report,

which i will discuss what i give the annual report. we also have on your desk the december 2010 statistics, and they're also copies available on the table. to date, in 2011, the occ has closed 22 complaints. we have mediated one case. we have pending cases, 402 from 2010 and 31 from this year. for the year and report, -- the year-end report, we had opened fewer than we did in 2009, when we opened 1018 cases. this is a decrease.

cases closed, 960. i will discuss all of this in the annual report on february 2. in 2010, 812 cases were closed. last year, we wrote the numbers down. this was a 35% increase in cases with the same allocation. we closed the year 2010 with only 11 investigators as compared to 17 note in 2009, at the close of 2009. we have hired two temporary investigators, and two investigators have returned from extended leave of absence, and

so currently, we do have investigators in place, but one investigator is going to be meeting for medical reasons for a three-month leave of absence. also, we have a recruitment going for a permanent investigator, but it will be at the level of 15 investigators. we currently have four provisional investigators, and they can only be provisional four of to three years, so that concludes my report. -- provisional for up to three years peart -- three years. president mazzucco: thank you, director hicks. we need to be able to help you. any further questions for director hicks?