provisional for up to three years peart -- three years. president mazzucco: thank you, director hicks. we need to be able to help you. any further questions for director hicks? now, we move into the line item c, commission reports, and given that we have to move into a lot of items, do you have any reports to make? commissioner: just one. we would like to remind everyone we have scheduled as an action item next week setting priorities for the commission for the next few months. last month, it was distributed, a summary of the objective criteria for setting priorities as well as the priorities at the retreat, and also to consider any other thing she went to add

to the list. and we also want to invite the public as well as the chief and director hicks. commissioner marshall, commissioner slaughter, do you read anything to add? commissioner marshall: at the end of the day, you forget what you did. one of the things we had was to set a priority. i want to thank you for bringing that to an action item. thank you. president mazzucco: thank you, commissioner. any other comment? we will open this up for the

line items, which is the chief said report, -- the chiefs report -- chief's report, the occ director's report, and the commission report. >> i just wanted to ask about the other? president mazzucco: that will be the next item. >> thank you. i have to say that as an elder and a female, i really do not appreciate the two males on this commission to tell a female commissioner to restrain her feelings and passion. it was common sense. so, please, you know, if you want to do this among ourselves,

but not in front of the public. it really does not look good. i am seeking counsel and filing a lawsuit. some of you may see the video that is exploiting the death of my son as a training peace for the academy, four officers to know how to react under stress. f -- or -- for officers to know how to react under stress. i do not know how another would feel to see the re-enactment of her son's shooting 156 times to train officers on how to react under stress.

i am filing a suit. as you know, we had a very large rally about the police and the disabled. i want to raise my concern about trying to separate the issue of tasers and mental health. to me, it would be like asking a politician to deliver babies. we know that those issues are intimately intertwined, including prop l about to be implemented on the street now. this was the purpose of the rally on monday.

the mental health association, the commission on homelessness, and the agencies to follow-up on the policies in general thank you. president mazzucco: thank you. >> commissioner, i would like to talk about the mental health trading that was discussed previously. to preface this, i would like to give you a little bit of my background. i spent four years on the staff of the commander-in-chief for army-navy and other members and also for federal employees associated with all of those branches. i then went into the private sector and private training for the state of hawaii, and this

was implemented the first time they changed their system since 1959. i then went on all seven campuses of the university of hawaii, so all of my training experience has been in adult education, so i think i would suggest if you're going to look at the training, there are a couple of things to consider. i really do not think i am clear on what training is, which training we're talking about. the officer who was up here talked about a 2000 citation for their training, and i am trying to figure out what does that mean, and they continue to do it through the following years,

and as a result, a lot of people received the first training but not the second. i think one of the things that i have been very disappointed about is the fact that it says only 900 officers and gives no breakdown as to whether these are supervisory officers, line officers, or command staff. in training, what you have to understand is the message about who attends the training as well as what the training is. training like this is viewed by many professionals as being soft training, and, in fact, some view it as something you send people to as a punishment rather than any sort of a desire to build their skills. you show up at the training, and everybody there is a line officer, that simply says that, number one, this is not training that the command staff and supervisory staff have to

attend. it is only the troops. and if you get out in the field, and you are one of the troops, and you have this training, but a supervisor shows up who does not have the, they have command, no matter if you have an alternate method, they can override you with no consequence, so i think looking into those issues would help you to determine the effectiveness of this program. [bell] [applause] >> good evening, commissioners. there were the statistics on murder in the city of san francisco, on january 2 and 9/11. someone was shot twice in the torso in the tenderloin district in san francisco in front of the new century club. is a murderer was identified by

cameras and witnesses also identified this man as being the one who shot my brother. to this day, 17 days later, nothing has been done in the way of an arrest to address the issue of my brother charles. even though he was in the tenderloin, just because you live in the tenderloin, that does not mean that you do not have family who love you and want to see you do well. so charles and his family were stunned by the devastating effect of his murdered this year, and nothing has been done in the way of an arrest for this man. we know that black people are arrested all the time in our

communities. but now, here is a man that is just lounging in san francisco. nothing is happening to him. and i would like to know, and the family would like to know, you know, is it being left up to us? we are law abiding citizens, and we do not want to take the law into our own hands, note? we want to know what is being done to pursue this person who took my brother's life. and if we can have some answers to death, i think that would bring -- it would calm down some of the illnesses if we can see justice taking place. president mazzucco: thank you

very much. we do not normally respond to these, but the chief wanted to respond to you and tell me as much as he can. they keep for coming. -- i thank you for coming. >> i want you to come in the hallway, because i want to talk to you, and we do have information related to the investigation. i am not privy to discussing it in public, but i am with homicide, and i can tell you that things are being done, and i can tell you that leads are being made, and the investigation is going through. those words are coming from me. i can tell you that we are working on it. we did not drop the investigation. we are working on it. i will tell everyone in this room that i have a blackberry that goes off at 2:00 in the morning. members of the ssgs -- fpd -- sfpd respond to these, and

sometimes they get confrontational with me when i tell them they have to go home, when they do not want to. i can tell you that the death of your brother has been investigated, and i can tell you that we have leads, but i want to tell you in private, if that is permissible. >> yes. [applause] president mazzucco: thank you. >> thank you very much for taking the time that has been taken so far. for taking so much of the evening addressing the issue of police interactions with people with mental health issues or disabilities. it is utterly important. i want to respond to just a couple of things. a lot of what i wanted to say

has already been said by my partner, so i do not want to repeat or words -- her words, but first of, i want to commend the commissioner dejesus for standing up, because although it does not appear to be a popular position on this commission, as he stated, in almost every article i have read, as well, and almost every discussion of police interaction with mentally ill people, note it has been used as stomping ground for the sale of issuing police officers with taylor's -- tasers. i just read another one. this was not in san francisco but in seattle, a person shot by police on arms. un -- armed -- unarmed, and, of course, the taser issue was brought up again.

thank you. i think these issues have to be addressed in tandem, whatever the auxiliary issues may be. and the other thing i want to respond to is the officer wrote -- is the officer, and you have to forgive me, her name is escaping me right now, but the officer who gave the report on the training for the sfpd. the issue has been raised about the cost. i am confused, too. i think $8,000 per month was the number that registered in my year. i just want to say that, frankly, one unnecessary debt is too much of the cost. i do not want to hear, and i do not think a lot of the public want to hear, that it is too expensive to give the training necessary to not use excessive force against the mentally ill or the disabled, or anyone. there is plenty of money allocated to the san francisco police department.

i think just about every organization on the planet wants more money to do what they want to do, but the money goes to thesfpd, and there is more than enough money to train officers on how to deal with the mentally ill and disabled public. [applause] >> i am a community organizer from district 6. i also want to commend commissioner dejesus for being a strong advocate for mentally disabled people and not using tasers against them. i also want to say that it is imperative that police officers get this mental health training, and i do not know if it is 40 hours, 24 hours, when is going to happen, and also, having accountability and transparency in these shooting cases so we

can do our research and find out what really happens. that is a problem right now. i marched on monday in the martin luther king march on city hall, and it also got into an argument with my daughters dad. -- my daughter;s dadm -- dad, and he said he was going to the rally, but he was not going to march out of concern for her safety. marching is a peaceful way to deal with these things. he said what this is about in the first place is police brutality. we have to keep our daughters say. i agreed with him at -- we have to keep our daughter safe. i agreed with him at the rally. when people are being shot in the back for having a pocket knife that they are wielding, as

you can, they need to stand up, and people in the tenderloin and people all over the city are living in fear of using their right to civil disobedience and public discourse. they are living in fear of police officers retaliating. president mazzucco: thank you very much. [applause] good evening, clyde. >> as you know, there was a man in a wheelchair that was released on bail for assaulting a police officer. the d.a. is bringing charges. apparently, the d.a. has a different point of view. also, we do not get all of the facts. about four months ago, chief gascon had a conference.

the gentleman had called his psychiatrist and said, "i am going to die by cop. i am going to die by cop." with a 24-inch knife, one swing -- if they and had a taser, maybe that man would not be dead. people, we have got to strike a balance here. just because you are mentally ill does not mean they cannot kill a police officers. thank you. president mazzucco: any more public comment? all right, we are moving to line item number one. please call it. secretary falvey: timelines for

selecting nominees for chief of police or to take other action related to selecting others for chief of police. some portion of this item may be heard in close section -- session. this closed session option is provided so that if the commission's discussion on this item involves an individual employee or applicant, the commission may conduct that portion in closed session. president mazzucco: thank you, lt. falvey. we are talking about starting our selection for the next chief of police in the city and county of san francisco. before we head into discussion, i just want to refresh, we did this process 19 months ago when

we selected chief gascon, and myself, commissioner marshall, and commissioner dejesus, along with our other commissioners, we had 32 community meetings and went out to 32 different groups. what are you looking for in a police chief? what do you think makes a good city police chief? it was an opportunity to go out to the community and hear what they were looking for. and part of that process, we went to every district station, and we went to the airport. we met with officers. we said, "what are you looking for? what are you looking for in the ideal police chief?" and we had a group working with us. we get assistance from the leading bodies with reference to training and enhancing training for police officers.

the city has paid them a lot of money. so we spent seven months coming up with what we felt as a commission would be the profile for the next police chief. so there is so much invested in that, and i just passed out to the commissioners a document that was created by the search committee, the commission, in conjunction with the group that we hired, essentially asking, what are we looking for in a police chief, and there was community policing and engagement. respect for the rank and file of the members, an inspirational leader, not subject to politics, stands up to political leaders, a change agent, a crime fighter, an innovator, somebody with new ideas, a communicator inside and outside of the department, media savvy, respects and embraces

diversity, understands the need for career and professional development, and understands immigration issues. so these were the criteria that we had reached as a commission last time we reviewed this calm and there -- when we reviewed this, and there was a profile. we received over 100 applications. with the assistance of a search firm, we interviewed 25 candidates, and with the 25 candidates, pursuant to proposition h, we gave them names to the mayor. we were all pretty much on the same page with the names that we voted on, so our goal here is, given the parameters that we have to deal with, i think we need to move expeditiously but cautiously. we need to look at each and every candidate. we need to announce that the

process is beginning tonight. we need to have some level of confidentiality in this process so that individuals can apply for the job without putting their current position at risk. for example, if they are police chief in another jurisdiction, it would not be good for them to apply for a job so we need to come up with a process that recognizes the parameters that mayor lee will be our mayor for the next 11 months and mayor lee would make the selection for chief. ultimately our goal would be to have a chief that is so strong that our next mayor would say gosh, i shouldn't have to do anything. i should keep the next chief. but who know what is the mex mayor is going -- next mayor is going to want? i don't see that there is going to be a lot of outside interest because over the program terse

so i would like to especially open it up for discussion. it is very important to have community input and we had it and we will continue to get it from our commission meetings. dr. marshall who deeply invested in this last time. dr. marshall? vice president marshall: i just want to jnd score the political realities because it may be that whoever is selected, let me tell you the truth. we may be doing this again. you know, in a year. because one of the things we wanted to do, we couldn't do when we did get going was give the chief a contract so that he doesn't necessarily serve it through -- you know, we have a contract, we could pick somebody and whenever we pick them, we got to do the whole thing a year.

look around. these are important. someone who would apply is faced with that. i just want to be sure everybody understands what we're going into here. it's, you know, it is very different than we were before. the person i would say was at least a little more secure, whoever it is that got the job. so it is under those challenges and realities and constraintsed that we have -- constraints that we have to be in this position one more time. >> commissioner hammer? commissioner hammer: my observation is i don't propose we redo all the great work you guys did but i think it is important in this process we set up a few public forums in different areas of the city so people can come forward and speak out. we just did have a chief for 18 months. we all worked close with him.

people in the community have something to say about it, things they think can be improved upon. i'm proposing a very limited public forum where people can be able to come speak about what they want. the second part i would like to hear, a forum for officer to see what they are looking for in terms of the direction of partner. we talked about some mechanism in relative rapid order to let people weigh in how they feel about their city. >> thank you. commissioner dejesus? commissioner dejesus: we need a candidate that will meet the criteria to serve the community as a whole. how we do that, i know we have some criteria from the last time and it was relatively just

a short period. but i think if we're going to -- when we look at the criteria that we are going to agree on, it is incumbent upon us not to fit the criteria to a preordained individual but to be completely objective in our creation of and assessment to have criteria. that is something i really want to stress. in other words, the process must be articulated or adhered to, transparent to the extent that it can be transparent, leadership, to determine the criteria rather than a particular or preordained individual. we need to point out that four members of this commission actually have not gone through this process. have not heard the community concerns. it is one thing to read it and another to hear it directly from the community. so i do agree with commissioner hammer, even though you want to be expedient, i think there is an opportunity and time for this body to go as a new body

with four new commissioners to the community and target certain areas and to listen to them because i think there was really an eye opener and we went to the rank and file and command staffing. we were really thorough and we don't have to do it to that extent but i think the new commissioner should see the concerns from the rank and file and the command staff and move forward so that we can get criteria and it may be the criteria that we already have. we may want to add that we have had a year and a half experience and it will be interesting hozz how the public evaluates that. -- to see how the public evaluates that. i disagree with commissioner hammer on that. it really is imperative that no member of this body speak to the press or the community as a voice for the whole commission until we get thoroughly engaged in the process and we decide the criteria as a body. once we have come to an agreement on the criteria then

i think we need to move forward as a unified body to vet the candidates. i do have an idea. i want to throat that out -- throw that out there. we have a list and i think one of the things we can do rather than just open the process up and start this in a really hurried and frenzied kind of way is to look at the list we already have and determine who who is the candidate from that list that we want to proffer from the mayor. it is still there. it is still fresh. i want to throw that out rather than opening the whole thing up. but if we do open it up, i just want to make sure that it is a fair process and that everyone who comes forward gets evaluated on his or her qualifications to run the department and fulfill the