, and tasers are a separate issue. we had this discussion last week. i agree with commissioner mazzucco, in terms of how they are going to be dealt with by this commission, i believe they ought to be dealt with separately and to consider their in packs, one on the other. i hope that we treat it as such. president mazzucco: thank you. commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i know the best practice is the 40 hours, and you are taking that, but that is still a heavy trading schedules, and i can appreciate your scheduling demands and costs, and have they

take anything, or is there anything that has been condensed, but not for a replacement, but something that deals with major problems and how they can be handled so that there is maybe a two to four trading that could be perhaps mostly on tape -- a two to four- hour training. that could reach all of the rest of the officers in a relatively short period of time, and then continue to have been scheduled in the 24 hour trainings, but some way to get the very core basics to everybody quickly? i am just dry that up quickly if that has been considered. >> there is the roll call

training program, and the video production unit. we certainly could look at the roll call training program. this is done in a format about what you think is the proper response. a lot of times, we give a scenario to officers. they say, "here is a scenario. what is the proper response?" and then they go back to discussing the scenario, so that is one that method we use to communicate regularly with our officers. the video production unit can also look at streamlining some of this information and producing a video that could be made available to officers for part of their roll call training and shift training. we do not generally do two to four hour blocks. maybe bringing in the essential elements.

i can talk to the inspector about that. >> that was a good suggestion. i appreciate it. commissioner kingsley: thank you. commissioner slaughter: the idea that this is a working group to present for items in the public with public input, because this is the public's business, so i just want to be absolutely clear about that. >> and i would assume this is about mental health. commissioner slaughter: and that is true. the chief is going himself. i want to say this. the conflict and violence and weapons and mental illness. -- conflated violence and weapons. mental illness is an illness. they are not themselves. they are suffering.

i think we all share the same values, but the point is to at all costs avoid violence. to teach our officers that they are to help people, so to give them the very best tools so it never comes to violence. if tasers ever come to become it is not a way to deal with mentally ill people. it is something short of killing a person. that is the only reason. that is the only argument of mine for them. it is one final thing to do before pulling a weapon. shooting folks. i do not want that to be the case. those are confidential personnel matters. but the way to deal with mental illness is with compassion as an illness, not with the violence. i hope we all agree on that. [applause] president mazzucco: we have a lot to deal with tonight. >> i understand commissioner

dejesus' comments to get the officers through the training, and i agree with commissioner chan that we are putting all of our eggs in this 40-hour training, and that would take care of the problem, and that is not the case. i think there has to be more to the equation. mental health professionals and bringing others on board. that 40-hour training is not going to stop all of the shootings. i do not want to give the public is false perception that a 40- hour class is going to take care of the problem. that is not the case, so we really have to concentrate on what we can do to help us with that problem. president mazzucco: commissioner dejesus > -- ? commissioner dejesus: this trading is the least that we can do for officers, but i agree.

president mazzucco: thank you, chief. secretary falvey: we move on to the next one. >> good evening, chief, director hicks, i work for the internal affairs division. tonight, i'm here to duty of your presentations. -- to do the presentations. there was a meeting convened on december 21, 2010. several members of the command staff as well as commissioner

chan and commissioner dejesus and direct hicks attended. there were four officer-involved shootings. we will start with the officer- involved to discharge. that occurred on august 9, 2010. that was found to be not in policy. there is a quick synopsis of the event. i will go over but. the officer, while manipulating his firearm, and intensely discharged his spiral. there were no injuries. it was not in policy. the first of the four shootings

that were involved, the first one was 09-004. this event occurred on september 5, 2009. after reviewing this case, it was found to be in policy. the situation or the incident of the officers dispatched to that street regarding a person. an officer in tarter communicated with the suspect. -- an officer communicator was there. the second officer-involved shooting, 10-001, january 23, 2010.

this was found to be in policy. at this event, -- this event, the offices were dispatched -- the officers were dispatched about a possible mental health evaluation. the officers were met at the door by a person with a machete, and the officer discharged a fine european mujica can discharged a firearm. it was also found to be in policy -- and the opposite discharged a firearm. another was found to be in policy. the short synopsis of the event, there were officers trying to make contact, and the vehicle attempted to flee the officers,

driving at the officer, i should say. the officer's life was in danger, and he discharged his handgun. the last occurred july 3, 2010, at broadway street. it was found to be and policy. the short synopsis of the event, the suspect fired a weapon into a crowd of people. >> do you have the status report? >> yes. the second report is the officer involved shooting as of today,

january 18, 2011 -- january 19, 2011. there was the third quarter status report. we had completed four officer- involved shootings, and there have also been five new cases that occurred, five new incidents which occurred, between october and now, so that gives us a tote of 12, a belief -- i believe, and these are open cases as of october 8. those four cases, and we still have six outstanding. five new cases. that gives us 12. 12 open officer-involved shooting cases and one note open

officer-involved discharge. -- and one open officer-involved discharge. and we anticipate that the meeting will convene in march, 2011. we are looking at march 15, 2011. we have not set the date yet, but we are looking at four to five cases at that meeting. >> i am certainly interested in that. president mazzucco: are there any questions? commissioner slaughter? commissioner slaughter: a couple

of questions. the brief synopsis is very useful for us to see. i notice that these are following up on our prior conversations about mental health issues. sometimes, it is clear that there is a suspect -- it may be mental health issues. i would just encourage you for future reference is as we go forward to hearing these reports to make sure that we are informed that the synopsis are clear that these incidents include mental health problems, because i think that will be critical information for the commission to consider, so if you can keep an eye out on that, i would appreciate it. and then, just two comments. and i do not expect you to really have a response to it,

but it was striking to me looking at the reports about the increasing number of officer- involved shootings in 2010 versus prior years, more combined officer-involved shootings in 2010 than in 2008 and 2009 together, and there may be a reason or not, but i think there is certainly something that we should be aware of. we have been focusing a lot, as we should, on mental health issues, but i could not help but looking at the 2010 statistics about the number of accidental or otherwise self-inflicted wounds suffered by officers, and in my view, it is just a heartbreaking issue of there, and i don't know the appropriate way for the condition to focus on that and to consider that, but when you have two or three

self-inflicted wounds by officers in the course of one year, we cannot ignore it, so, sargeant jackson, i appreciate this. president mazzucco: commissioner kingsley? >> thank you. to go one step forward to identify when it has resulted in a death. " thank you. president mazzucco: i just want to thank the commissioner for bringing that up about the self- inflicted wounds. sometimes the public does not appreciate that, given what offices see on a daily basis, and we pay them to work a ship

where they only see mental health issues. sometimes, you have to wonder what the correlation is let's be candid about it, so, again, i commend commissioner slaughter for bringing that up. thank you for bringing that to our attention. president mazzucco: any further questions? let's move to the occ directors' report. i appreciate it. secretary falvey: the occ report. >> this evening, i will discuss occ 2011 statistics and also give you a statistical report, which i will discuss what i give

the annual report. we also have on your desk the december 2010 statistics, and they're also copies available on the table. to date, in 2011, the occ has closed 22 complaints. we have mediated one case. we have pending cases, 402 from 2010 and 31 from this year. for the year and report, -- the year-end report, we had opened fewer than we did in 2009, when we opened 1018 cases. this is a decrease.

cases closed, 960. i will discuss all of this in the annual report on february 2. in 2010, 812 cases were closed. last year, we wrote the numbers down. this was a 35% increase in cases with the same allocation. we closed the year 2010 with only 11 investigators as compared to 17 note in 2009, at the close of 2009. we have hired two temporary investigators, and two investigators have returned from extended leave of absence, and so currently, we do have

investigators in place, but one investigator is going to be meeting for medical reasons for a three-month leave of absence. also, we have a recruitment going for a permanent investigator, but it will be at the level of 15 investigators. we currently have four provisional investigators, and they can only be provisional four of to three years, so that concludes my report. -- provisional for up to three years peart -- three years. president mazzucco: thank you, director hicks. we need to be able to help you. any further questions for director hicks? now, we move into the line item c, commission reports, and given

that we have to move into a lot of items, do you have any reports to make? commissioner: just one. we would like to remind everyone we have scheduled as an action item next week setting priorities for the commission for the next few months. last month, it was distributed, a summary of the objective criteria for setting priorities as well as the priorities at the retreat, and also to consider any other thing she went to add to the list. and we also want to invite the public as well as the chief and director hicks.

commissioner marshall, commissioner slaughter, do you read anything to add? commissioner marshall: at the end of the day, you forget what you did. one of the things we had was to set a priority. i want to thank you for bringing that to an action item. thank you. president mazzucco: thank you, commissioner. any other comment? we will open this up for the line items, which is the chief said report, -- the chiefs report -- chief's report, the occ director's report, and the commission report. >> i just wanted to ask about the other?

president mazzucco: that will be the next item. >> thank you. i have to say that as an elder and a female, i really do not appreciate the two males on this commission to tell a female commissioner to restrain her feelings and passion. it was common sense. so, please, you know, if you want to do this among ourselves, but not in front of the public. it really does not look good. i am seeking counsel and filing a lawsuit. some of you may see the video that is exploiting the death of my son as a training peace for

the academy, four officers to know how to react under stress. f -- or -- for officers to know how to react under stress. i do not know how another would feel to see the re-enactment of her son's shooting 156 times to train officers on how to react under stress. i am filing a suit. as you know, we had a very large rally about the police and the disabled.

i want to raise my concern about trying to separate the issue of tasers and mental health. to me, it would be like asking a politician to deliver babies. we know that those issues are intimately intertwined, including prop l about to be implemented on the street now. this was the purpose of the rally on monday. the mental health association, the commission on homelessness, and the agencies to follow-up on the policies in general thank you. president mazzucco: thank you. >> commissioner, i would like to

talk about the mental health trading that was discussed previously. to preface this, i would like to give you a little bit of my background. i spent four years on the staff of the commander-in-chief for army-navy and other members and also for federal employees associated with all of those branches. i then went into the private sector and private training for the state of hawaii, and this was implemented the first time they changed their system since 1959. i then went on all seven campuses of the university of hawaii, so all of my training experience has been in adult education, so i think i would

suggest if you're going to look at the training, there are a couple of things to consider. i really do not think i am clear on what training is, which training we're talking about. the officer who was up here talked about a 2000 citation for their training, and i am trying to figure out what does that mean, and they continue to do it through the following years, and as a result, a lot of people received the first training but not the second. i think one of the things that i have been very disappointed about is the fact that it says only 900 officers and gives no breakdown as to whether these

are supervisory officers, line officers, or command staff. in training, what you have to understand is the message about who attends the training as well as what the training is. training like this is viewed by many professionals as being soft training, and, in fact, some view it as something you send people to as a punishment rather than any sort of a desire to build their skills. you show up at the training, and everybody there is a line officer, that simply says that, number one, this is not training that the command staff and supervisory staff have to attend. it is only the troops. and if you get out in the field, and you are one of the troops, and you have this training, but a supervisor shows up who does not have the, they have command, no matter if you have an alternate method, they can override you with no consequence, so i think looking into those issues would help you to determine the effectiveness of this program.

[bell] [applause] >> good evening, commissioners. there were the statistics on murder in the city of san francisco, on january 2 and 9/11. someone was shot twice in the torso in the tenderloin district in san francisco in front of the new century club. is a murderer was identified by cameras and witnesses also identified this man as being the one who shot my brother. to this day, 17 days later, nothing has been done in the way of an arrest to address the issue of my brother charles. even though he was in the tenderloin, just because you

live in the tenderloin, that does not mean that you do not have family who love you and want to see you do well. so charles and his family were stunned by the devastating effect of his murdered this year, and nothing has been done in the way of an arrest for this man. we know that black people are arrested all the time in our communities. but now, here is a man that is just lounging in san francisco. nothing is happening to him. and i would like to know, and the family would like to know, you know, is it being left up to us? we are law abiding citizens, and we d