this board is off track. on van ness avenue, there is something that will probably interfere with the new rail system that is being proposed. that is on a collision course and that is a consequence you clearly have to address. also, i would like to point out to the public that $1 million was given to the city by the muni drivers, the transport workers union. it was given up from their trust funds, and they have made concessions, and the public does not know about it. also,

disabled. time to get one drivers and service and stop trying to do this of the backs of the disadvantaged. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon, members of the board. 6000 drivers are in trouble, they are waiting two hours. i got an e-mail that they was looking into this and no one looked into the issue. when we are sitting there for two hours, we are losing $80. we have to pay that to the company. we have to pay those expenses. you have 4500 drivers.

what do you do for us? nothing. one woman was inserted in a picture and there was a lot of money behind the game. i am told that she has not done a good job. i had some criticize in -- criticism of her. when we are putting those plans, she took two proposals in the folder but she took mine and out. no one is more closely to the drivers in the industry than me. i don't need to bring the people here. now, for the pilot project, everyone says that an application should be considered to. i sent by mail and facts. my mail is not there.

she is not capable. where is that, why is she denying me? will anyone answer this question? she is an attorney, she will say, last question, no, she is not doing a good job, she should go. thank you. >> i am a cabdriver. i am here to talk about -- last spring we told you that we were getting unfairly ticketed by -- and's stops. >-- and bus stops. they have been ticketed drivers

when they have been picking up and this seems like a vendetta. this is not make any sense. you are considering whether you will put -- on taxis at the same time we are doing our business during this time. i am surprised to hear this. you have one arm is that is not paying attention to the other. we're all in the same business. you have people getting tickets in the mail six weeks afterwards. this is simply to do -- impossible to do business under these conditions. >> are the situations in you complain about our other than bus stop ticketing, where is this happening? >> allover embarcadero, they

have been in ticketing. white zones, the double parking which is sometimes necessary. market street, one guy had taken a radio call and he was waiting and an officer can along and told him to move and he moved and they sent him a ticket in the mail anyway. the person who made the call did not get picked up. the faerie bolten is a perfect target. >> we appreciate that. -- the ferry building is a perfect target. >> regarding the report, that i understand that you might be giving up some real estate because the cab business is in a constant struggle to run our

operations and might be good as part of the transportation infrastructure. >> thank you, next speaker. >> a shock wave has been moving through the cab industry. this is a shock wave of the first awareness of your resumption regarding the industry. at the advisory committee last year, the director answered a question, where is the money going that is collected on the many unassigned medallions during the interim? the answer was, the money is going into the general fund. how dare you, the mandate is to

do the governance of the tax industry, not to carve it up and consume it and use it as your cash cow. it has been revealed that for decades the police department has been charging overtime for prosecution. this is counterintuitive and unjust. no one thinks this is fair. that is still is going on. now we have another competitor. the amount of money being drained off of the taxi industry has been doubled. you have taken a quarter of a million dollars. the same agency that is preventing our progress, among other things providing medical coverage, is also treating our industry as a cash cow. please stop it.

>> good afternoon. i wanted to speak to the issue of peak time permits. i should say that i actually support this idea as an alternative to full-time permanent assuming it is done wisely and responsibly because the permits a line the needs of the public. i'm extremely concerned about a statement and a recent hand out by the taxi section. this sites the advise of the city attorney's office and they don't have to have a public hearing of the type that is required under the transportation code. you have to have a public hearing demonstrating the need

for more tax 44 they can be put out. the apparent rationale is that sense the mta makes the rules, the mta can break the rules and make another rule. this is extremely disturbing to me both from the point of view of your ability to ignore your own rules and also from the standpoint of if you are going to make a decision like this, isn't it really necessary to have the kind of public participation that it would seem to require? to me, this points to a larger issue which is really that our tax regulation is built on a foundation of sand because there is no governing law here parent of you can set the rules as you like and change them any day and

this gives us absolutely no certainty. thank you. >> bu it outhe i am here to comt on the number of tickets i have been hearing about that and getting issued on its embarcadero for double parking or for dropping passengers off. are we supposed to find a parking place each time we dropped someone off or pick them up? that is ridiculous. we are basically paying the salaries of the people us from doing our jobs. hopefully, something can be done about this so that taxes are

allowed to do our jobs without getting ticketed unnecessarily. there is no way that you can drop someone off without blocking the bike lane on the embarcadero. >> asahi i echo the sentiment about the officers. not only did do they needed to be informed about what should be able to be ticketed and also the officers with protests of the ticket will need to be brought up to speed. you should give more lead time if your agenda with attachments.

right now, they are always on friday and it is difficult. item 12 is 90 pages long and really requires more thought. it would serve the public and was served along much better to have more lead time on that if you have the information in hand already. also, welcome to the new commissioner. if you or any member would like a ride along in a taxi, the night shift is more exciting, i would be happy to take you. will be happy to give you a chance to ask whatever questions you want or see whatever situations you would like. >> good afternoon.

>> goodood afternoon. >> good afternoon, chair. i think you for going to the division's early this december. i wish you would continue to do it so connecticut will work conditions that we're working on so that -- i wish that you would do it so that you would know the working conditions that we are working on. i urge you to come to the divisions and talk to your operator's. we want the main -- the same thing. we want to provide the best service. in order to do that, we need good working conditions.

thank you for your time. >> been keeping -- thank you. >> i would like to talk about the time permits. the only official proposal i know is one that proposes franchise peak time permits and i think clearly from your point of view, those involved heifer'' exposures that is much too high. there are other proposals that really warrant your consideration and i submit this to you. very briefly, they would involve setting up a process that would take a very long time but i think this is warranted.

these hearings would take about a year and a half. in that time, permits would be issued to companies, to individuals, and the individual permits would be issued to people but only drive. one category would be controlled time permits so that they could only be driven a certain number of hours per week we have the means to be able to monitor that. at the end of that time, you would be able to make an appraisal on the effectiveness of the permits. if they are not successful, and you could phase them out. if they were successful, they would present a revenue opportunity.

>> we do have someone here who want to speak regarding an item that has been removed from the agenda. rather than having them wait until the item is called, i thought maybe out of consideration he could talk now. >> ok. >> good afternoon. i am president of the transport workers union. there are a couple items of like to address. one of them would be an employee parking issue so far as the

managers have said. within our contract, we have a provision for placards. they are not able to have this vehicles necessary for us to do our jobs. the parking issue has become very convoluted. is this an item that will be pushed back. the other thing that i would like to address is that on the agenda, i keep seeing that we have a contract negotiation. on december 10th, 2010, we have a contract it needs to be adhered to. i don't know if this is resonating as i should be.

i have not received this. our position, we have a valid contract and this was in line with the charter section. we would like to hear something as soon as possible so that we can go forward. the other thing that i would like to discuss are the abuses in our contract. they have had a lot allowed it to a monetary compensation and this needs to be addressed. >> is there anyone else? >> a couple of things that have occurred to me. this is a way of dealing with

the service along and it without unnecessarily having to move a lot of spots. the point that mr. schneider makes about safety, we have talked about this for a long time and i don't know where we are on this and if members can send us something back at. >> i feel like a taxi commission there again. >> and there are several issues it raised this is the issue of the parking tickets. it is difficult for me to know

and we don't want to go through this now. we would like to reach out to the organized groups and drivers and asked them their experiences, what are the particular tickets they are complaining about? let's find out the five or six or two or three instances that are most bothering drivers and make sure intact and they should not have these tickets. once we have clarification on what is bothering them and what the rules are, then we would be able to evaluate from a policy standpoint. this is something we have been hearing about on and off a lot

and i would ask the division to follow up with these drivers representatives and try to get a list of the issues. if someone got a ticket and they're not happy about it, that is a different thing. i think that we are hearing this an awful lot from our drivers. >> >> just as a quick follow up before the taxi industry, we are taking a look at that. we have meetings scheduled with the head of our enforcement division. they are looking at that. we have to protect the issue. we are also taking a look at the taxi stands. that would help to alleviate

this situation where we have these areas with some congestion related to picking up passengers. >> there are no proposals before the board and we are working this out. this process will involve input from the tax advisory committees and all else who cares to give us their input on if and how to issue the permits. >> moving on to the consent calendar, you have a member of the public that would like to have 10.2 severed. >> this will have to be taken

off altogether. this law have to be discussed at the next meeting. >> in that case. >> is a motion? >> move approval. >> any further discussion? >> 10.2. this was removed by a member of the public. >> being more of a journalist in my blood, i am asking the question, why will it cost up to $40,000 to inspect the tunnels for the final design of the central subway project? i think the public deserves an explanation, you are trying to save money in different places and now you will give them up

to four-letter thousand dollars to go in the tunnels and do a little inspection? we are not doing excavation. maybe you just like spending money. you just heard public comment about had things are costing more and people are taking more time and yet you will spend up to $400,000? maybe that can go to leona bridges taking cabs. i think that these questions deserve asking and answering. thank you. >> thank you. >> is there a motion on this item? do you want to hear a report or something? >> here nothing for on the board, i think will call up

carter, can you speak to this on the permanence -- on the premise? >> good afternoon, chairman of the item before you is an item that is required as part of the central subway program to execute our final design. as part of our final design we are required to take our engineers into the tunnels and we are required to do that so that we do not disrupt the service. to go specifically to the issue raised, the costs associated with permits, there are two permits. this includes a fee that is not for 200,000 per tunnel. the cost that will be incurred

against the permit will be for survey work including be engineers and engineering time and power shutdowns, personnel labor costs, and we will have to shut the system down for surveys that we are doing here in the tunnels. the total cost under this is part of the capital program and part of the federal reimbursement program that we have included in our news starts. >> we have a motion and a second? >> move to approve. >> item 11, approving the establishment of no camera regulations and installing sidewalk regulations at the n judah stops.

>> we are prepared if you want to make a presentation. i think this is appropriate. >> i want to point out that the policy and governance committee reviewed this at the issue -- meeting last week. >> we were not in a position to take action on the item so there is no recommendation to come forward. >> good afternoon, mr. chair. members of the public, and board. this proposal as travel-related improvements which is from accessible services to pedestrian safety and traffic safety as well as the operations and reliability and safety in general and also to kids in the machinery and so

forth. this location, what we're proposing to do is to install three -- for passenger loading. this is to take advantage of the new project that is coming up very shortly and to take advantage of the economy of scale and the timing so that this project would be incorporated with that at a much lower cost. i think the project would cost roughly $420. also, that has the funding to include this work. if we were not to go forward or we don't have the support on this proposal, we don't know when the next opportunity would come along and how much it would cost. it would be a lot more

expensive than the current because we would not be able to take advantage of the economy and scale. the transit location here actually is the second busiest low point on the n line within the system west of the sunset tunnel. there are over 5700 warnings on and off at this location. one of the problems with this particular location is that because of the presence of parked cars and the heavy volume of passengers waiting to get on and off, most of them would need to get on or off between parked cars from the curb and then on to the first up of the streetcars. so,