included. i know a lot of students go to redding from treasure island. i notice redding is not one of the schools that -- i don't think i missed it, that is going to be selected for treasure island, a possibility. so -- it seems like it is within the path. this particular, this little pathway. why wouldn't it be included as a stop? that's my question. it is really, just today around treasure island. then -- also the treasure island, including that, i'm curious that p.p.s. and the pack, how are you going to outreach to treasure island families when they really have a tough time coming to the city to a particular summit that we may normally attend. what would we be doing particularly -- particularly for the families at treasure island. >> thank you, commissioner for that question. we're very lucky there's a great group of c.b.o.'s on treasure

island. darlene and i have met with them multiple times to talk about this particular issue and the principals have already started partnering with the schools and had conversations and meetings. the schools that -- from treasure island will have tppings and -- transportation and has had discussions with the c.b.o.'s. it'll be from chin and scherrman, and those principals have already started outreach to the treasure island community. flynn there's already high ridership. c.i.s., there's access to a cant fonees and chinese language program and we -- cantonees and chinese language program. we took ride time in selecting that. for k-8 access to bessy carmichael. the proposal does include. they also have a c-tip one. we had to make sure they had language to pathways and

citywide schools. again i want to thank the principals and all of the c.b.o. 0's at treasure island because -- because they actually beep very proactive in these discussions. >> so the last comment is i do hope that we keep the district six supervisor in the loop. and she most recently is very familiar with perspective. treasure island i with with -- perspective. treasure island is within her jurisdiction. com misser? >> focom misser? >> for you this presentation. this is tough mo me. my younger daughter attends rosa parks and my older daughter graduated from that program. the reason we chose it is because of the diversity of kids from all over -- all over the city representing different public schools. i wanted to touch on five issues. first, what enrollment impact

this may have. working families in san francisco can't pick up their kids in the middle of the afternoon. i know many of them rely he have loin the service to pick up their kids in a safe way and deliver them to after school. some -- like my husband and i are in a position to pay for this, it is really supervaluable that we don't hire someone to take them to an afterschool program. i wanted to know if there was consideration of cost sharing options on a sliding scale for those families who -- who really are in answer to pay for this like the free and reduced lunch program. i know other districts have a transportation card that they can prp to defray the -- can purchase, to defray costs. i'm concerned about language programs. clarnedof is on the list. and that's a city wide program. by eliminating bus service, you have a negative impact on who

has the able to make it to the city we'd language program. thirdly, i'm concerned about the environmental impact. what if removing 19 buses results in a 200% increase this the carbon footprint? it is going to lead to more cars on the road. you though, can we put some thought into what kind of environmental impact that will have? number four, i'm concerned about students' safety, more chaos at drop off and pick up. if you don't have -- if you don't have school bus service for families to -- to make their own arrangements. finally my concern is about timing. the new school assignment system is designed to alleviate this issue of busing kids from one party of the city to the other. in many instances, shouldn't we wait to see the fallout of the new school assignment system. those are my concerns.

>> do you want to respond to any of those? >> yes. i think -- i think where possible i'll respond. i think in some cases it was an observation that i'm not sure -- but if there's a question & didn't get it, let me know. >> on the -- on the -- on the cost sharing, the first comment on the cost sharing. we actually did send -- spend a lot of time with that. i look -- i can forward to the board the information about that. one of the key conclusions was that -- was -- that we're going to redesign our service to support our lowest income families so they would not be able to pay for service. at any fee that is would be associated with that for family that is could pay would be cost prohibitive. they're more expensive than other alternatives, it didn't seem like this was a feasible way to be able to create a cost structure for transportation services. on -- on the -- on the impact on

the language programs. that's why a lot of the schools are listed -- are listed here, they provide support and opportunity. from clairdon it who provide transportation. and then a lot of other language biliteracy programs and immersion programs with have transportation. that transportation would be -- would be focused on children who with living in the areas, the city with the lowest average test scores. that's the areas of the city with the hoest income level. the environmental impact, that's something i can't respond to immediately. it is something i will follow up with folks and get back to the board on that piece. as the -- and the same with the chaos of dropping off and picking up and these issues. so i'll explore those with staff and get back to you with more

feedback from that. in terms of the timing of the new student assignment system, that's an advantage of doing it over three years. so we try to have the minimum impact while also meeting the budget obligationings of cutting six buses. we're going to impact about 8% of our current riders or maybe even less. the first year we're doing that. so we'll have a better sense of the work -- as the work involves, the interconnection between the assignment system and the transportation and watt immicks are. >> commissioner -- commissioner martin. >> so, i want to -- i want to say yes. i can tell the way the phase in is designed is to take the lowest hanging fruit first and minimize the impact on the lowest number of students. i do appreciate that it was designed in that way.

i continue to feel concerned about leaving families high and dry that depend on service to afterschool programs. i have to say to miss killman, my own daughter went through and learned to swim in the program and loved that program. it is -- it has been a wonderful experience for the kids that have done it. i would hate to see us lose access to -- families lose access to the program. do i agree that -- that this is something that we're going to have to do. i hope in the breach we're doing planning, that we're reaching out to the j.c.c. and working with them. and the scol sites themselves so the families are not left in the lurch. they depend on the afterschool care and there are afterschool options for the kids. was concerned about particularly, star king. i looked at it and i -- the last presentation has star -- has all of star king going to -- to -- for feeding into altos for the middle school. that's quite a ways. so -- i'm sort of curious what

-- as far as the feeder patterns, what -- whether there's been any transportation thinking about. and then -- i want to just -- the question about the presideo c.d.c. and the morning bus. it sounded like if it is not in here and not affected. i'm not -- i wasn't sure if that also applied to the out years. i wondered if you could clarify that more. i didn't understand the answer, i don't know if you did. okay, thanks. >> thank you commissioner. yes for the middle school feeder patterns, we're definitely looking at from the proposal that was shared tonight, we're looking at what the distances are, and defwrect access by muni. in your own words is there a direct no-transfer option what the muni ride time would be. and -- then in cases where -- where the transfers are required or the ride time is excessively long, we would look at bringing limited transportation and -- it

would be so -- the star king access is something we would look at. it is noncontiguous, with we would need to support it. that's a lens. it is not included. we didn't get specific about pillingdscol here, because we have to wait -- middle school here, because we have to wait until that's finalized. for the presideo c.d.c., for year one, it is included. and i think the best way to -- for parents who have -- or anybody, for all of us that have questions about what will be in place in 2013 -- the slides that -- that start on page -- slide 42. where it says redesigned transportation, all of the slide after that describe what we're planning to build. so if it is not on here, and -- we would imagine it is going to be phased out in 2012 or 2013.

we list the schools that would have service and the & that they would come from. there's some place -- times when we don't though. like those schools that are starkly underenrolled that would fold out. other than that, we would build around that plan. >> commissioner -- commissioner winn. >> thank you. i wanted to -- commissioner wynns. >> this is so difficult but i think this is a fairly good plan considering some of the things that we have talked about in the -- in the past. i think this is -- i think this is -- this is thoughtful phase-in plan. i'd be interested in the community feedback before i would -- be sure that -- that we're taking the right steps and that there are -- there -- that there aren't more nuances. by the way, i appreciate that some of the things that we have discussed in the past have

already been modified from some of the original proposals. but do i believe that -- that -- that -- i'm hoping that whatever if -- if certain trends begin to emerge from the community feedback that the board would be informed about that before -- before any modifications are made. so that we could -- sort of be in on those or know what the potential impact is, particularly as you said, this is kind of a zero sum. so anything that we decide to change is going to knock down dominoes somewhere. >> that's it. thank you. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner wynns. >> commissioner fewer. >> thank you for the presentation. commissioner fewer: i think it is thoughtful. it takes into consideration some of our students that -- that have you though, the lowest test scores. i think it is -- it is all priorities. i was -- i also echo what

commissioner norton says is that -- i agree with -- with the proposal that we cannot provide transportation to off-soit afterschool prms and still may cut the budget by the extent that we want to. it is a hard choice but i feel like we have to do that. but i also wanted to know about cleveland because i know that cleveland has a lot of student that is come from the bay view. that's quite a distance. i didn't know what -- what the ridership was. and also, star king too. there's -- star king is an isolated & with few -- with few options to bus transportation. and underenrolled and wanted to know what the numbers might have be for those schools. >> thank you, commissioner. for cleveland -- they use the same bus as -- as s.f.

community. and combined for both schools, the total number of riders are 14. about eight of them are from c 2-1 areas. for star concerning the total number of riders is -- let's see, actually, we can give this whole list to the board so you could see for each school. but star king if i could find it quickly, i could let you know. yeah. for star king, it is about 33 riders. 27 from c-tip one areas. okay. thanks. >> okay. so basically i'll probably echo commissioner wynns and fewer, i think the plan gets better.

it is obvious to me, there's thought put behind this. for somebody listening -- and wanting this issue be tracied for five years, it is -- it is really nice to be able to -- to get -- get something to chew on. and realize that this is actually going to happen. so, move forward, with -- with what the feedback we've gotten and with the additional feedback from the community. and -- you know, we know it is not going to be easy, anytime you want to change something or you lose some services somewhere, there's going to be -- some people that will well not be happy. but -- there's -- if we don't tchoig, there's more people unhappy when we find we have less money to support our classrooms.

i said we with around 8:0. i want to end this and go into closed session. where is it at? five minutes, cheer the room please. thank you.

supervisor chu: altman to the regular meeting of the budget

and finance committee. please turn off all cell phones and pagers. if you present any documents >>ordinance authorizing the office of economic and workforce development to retroactively

accept and expend a grant in the amount of $603,888 from the california employment development department to support the clean energy program. >> it is a competitive grant will provide training for 97 to score residents. i am happy to answer any

questions. supervisor chu: this is a new grant run through the office of economic [inaudible] we were able to provide additional training. it is augmenting the green skills academy. supervisor chu: it looks like you will be adding an additional position in your budget. what will occur with that original position? >> we will be letting go of that position. supervisor chu: any other questions for the committee? supervisor mirkarimi: just for

the unexpected, can you explain what neighborhoods in the city may benefit from getting this? we are coordinating with goodwill industries and other partners. we provide orientation out reach for a at we have been able

to provide assistance to overcome that. supervisor mirkarimi: neighborhoods geographically, like the mission, soho where we have actually seen the most enrollments are in the southeast visitation valley neighborhood. we have had an uptick in the last year. supervisor mirkarimi: since the city college satellites hosting this, is in there anyway you can also encourage the john adams camped se visitation nine

neighborhoods. we have had a significant uptick in the western edition in the last year. and chinatown. supervisor mirkarimi: since the city college satellites that are hosting this is in the south, southeast, isn't there any way they can also be encouraged? and john adams can is near the western addition or chinatown or what have you that we can actually also have outposts for the training in those city college campuses as well? >> we are limited by the facilities that are required.

you need april is a given amount of space and could dent. with our other programs and academies, we are actually partnering with the john adams can around our health care academy, which of course has lab space. city college and we are therefore somewhat confined on the facilities needs and restrictions we have. we try to ensure that we are partnering with as many of the campuses as appropriate. it does require that folks travel. we do provide, if needed -- typically they are needed -- travel vouchers, muni passes and things like that on a monthly basis. supervisor mirkarimi: i am looking for a nexus of those people entering these jobs,

these opportunities and jobs and training, are they x offenders? i would like to see what kind of data we have for those people formally incarcerated. i think the assumption would be for especially low income communities, that would suggest a higher rate of those suggesting reentry. i would like to see if that is true or not. i would assume that you all are keeping data on this? >> absolutely, your assumption is correct. we have is a given number of ex- offenders or folks who are in contact with the criminal- justice system and all of our programs. we do keep the on that. one of the restrictions we have, frankly, for the most part, that is self reported. most folks are comfortable working with our office and community-based organizations which is to their benefit to

disclose any criminal background that they might have. we offer a special set of services through a program that we call reentry navigator, to help folks who may have had gaps in their resume and need additional training, supports in order to deal with that issue to actually get a leg up. that is something that is layered on to a program like the academy. i would be happy to provide actual data and numbers to you. supervisor mirkarimi: feel free to follow up with my office. supervisor chu: supervisor kim? supervisor kim: when we are talking about the numbers, visitation ballet, the diversity, and gender makeup. what programs are you basing that on? >> that is primarily our sector academy of which we have three. we have the city academy, which the committee is familiar with.

that is our construction sector academy. we have our green academy and we also have a health care academy that we were able to launch. we received additional stimulus dollars through our federal bought at. supervisor kim: how many people have come to the academies? >> i did not bring those numbers. they are still in progress. it has got to be close to 1000, at this point. i would be happy to provide those numbers. supervisor kim: i am very interested in the number of people served, which neighborhoods they come from common gender, ethnic breakdown, and if they are former convicts. you touched on out reach. how does that specifically happen? >> it happens to our community partners. minicab goals in terms of the number of potential clients that they are required to do our reach to.

happens in a group setting through orientations. we have a calendar of monthly orientations that happened throughout the city at our one- stop centers where we invite folks to come and learn about the academy's, about the trading options, understand the prerequisites required. there are income requirements in many cases as well as to understand what a job in that industry may look and feel like, and if that is something that they are interested in. after folks have gone through one of these orientations events, which are fairly informal, we have seen anywhere from 18 people at each event to some of the larger one where we have had close to 100 people show up. from those orientation even ask,