is cutting staff. to meet the 10% budget reduction target, i would lay off two clerical staff. that's 1/3 of our six-member clerical staff. what it would end up doing is causing the investigators to have to do more clerical tasks and in a three-month time study that we conducted last year, we determined -- we did the year before, we determined that investigators already did 15% of their time on administrative tasks. we concluded that they would have to spend 20% of their time on administrative tasks. and additionally, one investigator. while the o.c.c. has 15 8124

investigators, the o.c.c. also has three 8126 investigators who are considered -- you have journey-level investigators, sprfering investigators. it would mean the senior investigators would have to take on even more cases and do resting provisions. i have to meet the contingency target to get to $235,000, another investigator position, as well as an attorney position. we would -- we would have to eliminate our mediation program. because the charter mandate, we have two prosecuting attorneys. through charter mandate we make policy recommendations. it would be a terrible shame to

eliminate the mediation out-reach program. then more would fall on the investigators. so that concludes my budget presentation. president mazzucco: thank you for your review. we'll see what we can do to extend the budget. commissioner kingsley. commissioner kingsley: to make sure i understand the numbers, it looks like your baseline total is formally $210? director hicks: yes, that's correct. commissioner kingsley: that suggests to me half comes from the general fund and half from some place else? if the 10% is $235,000 and it is 10% of two million, $200, $2.350? million? hick hicks the charter mandates

for every 100 police officers, those 15 salaries are backed out. commissioner kingsley: so they are not included within the 10% reduction. director hicks: they are not. vice president marshall: one of the reasons that the -- that director hicks gets so much praise for us, that when we hired her it was after a scathing audit of the o.c.c., and we hired her and said here's the audit. fix it. we didn't give her any money. so she continues to sface these budget challenges and trying to right the ship. we've said it many times, we are very, very pleased you have been able to do the job you have done with the challenges. so you presented the numbers

budget-wise, and we appreciate all you continue to do. i wish we could give you money, too. keep it up. director hicks: thank you very much, vice president marshall. >> item 3-c, the commission reports. the commission president's report followed by the commissioners' reports. president mazzucco: i will pass to my fellow commissioners for their reports. to my fellow commissioners for their reports. commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i would like to tell you about my saturday night. i had a ride-along in the bay view district. the captain arranged for a tour of the station before the ride-along. then i had the ride-along with

sergeant dean paul. very experienced and knowledgible in the history of crime in the bay view. knowledgible about bay view terrain, and i learned a tremendous amount in terms of general policing and specifically regarding the bay view. it was just a very enlightening educational experience. i am grateful to the commeef for arranging that, and to the sergeant. president mazzucco: commissioner chan. commissioner chan: please join other members of the metro -- i want to give everyone a preview for next week. next wednesday, just to remind the public, that next wednesday we will be focusing on mental health training plus all the other issues, including

deployment, et cetera. chief godown was kind enough to brent a model on appellant al -- model on -- enough to present a model of mental health. i have been talking to advocates to give them them a head's up that it is happening. so there will be that coming up next week. president mazzucco: thank you for your hard work on that, commissioner chan. before i go to commissioner hammer, i did reach out to v.o.a. today. i would like a representative from the police officer association come and deal with what officers have to deal with on a daily basis. some of the circumstances we

have had to deal in the police department family with self-inflicked cannotshot wounds. commission -- department family with sfrl inflicted gunshot wounds. commissioner hammer: tomorrow chief godown is going to be going down south, and i appreciate the police arranging that. we will have two models to look at and talk about. next wednesday. so -- president mazzucco: public comment on line item's a, b, c. >> my complante comment will be on the budget and chief's

report. i think you might get an impression from my earlier comments that i am making some sort of disparaging comments. i do believe that a well-run organization needs to be reflective. when i pointed out the issue of the overtime for the two deputy chiefs. it wasn't to bring them in disrepute or anything else. it is, in my mind, for every million dollars of overtime, that's a million dollars that would put more officers on the street. i have looked at the payroll salaries for levels one, two, and three, and looking at them and knowing the cost of living in san francisco, if they are officers who are married and have another income, they might make it. if they have a family, i think probably a lot of them having a

hard time getting by. i see officers at every level, who geth immense overtime that exceeds their annual salary. if you look at this chart the two officers i mentioned earlier, how many officers could we put on the street? i think the question is well worth asking. it is an improvement.

that's $4 million extra dollars to spend op more officers. $4 million to spend on updating the police squad, patrol cars and so forth. i think it is worth looking at. i would also to comment on the chief's report, president mazzucco and commissioner hammer for bringing up the firearm general order. if you look at the status of general order, that has been on that agenda since june 30 of 2004. it sends a loud message to officers in the field if they are trying to figure out what am i allowed to do, what am i not, when they try to determine the department's general order and they slap-dash things that are out there trying to get it up to date. it puts them in a damned if you do, damned if you don't

position. president mazzucco: the four general you put up there, they are all salaried employees. the reason two of them did not get paid overtime is because those two are on the job. when you retire on this department you get paid your sick, comp time, whatever time you have accumulated over those 30 years you have been on the department. you misrepresent the numbers when you say they get an enormous amount of overtime. that is not the case. those are salaried employees, and those are the payouts they got. the reason the other two don't is because they are still working on the sfpd. >> any other public comment on these items? >> hearing the statistics from the report from the o.c.c.,

striking me from that report, it is the 28% over-reputation of complaints compared to the 7% sentence, that is a 400% disparity. reading from the holy bible here, "hear the lord for the instruction of wisdom." bible 21:7, the violence of the wicked will destroy if they refuse to do justice. "eefl -- "evil men do not understand justice. 29:9, he who has fought and rebuked will be destroyed and

not remedied. this is from the preamble of the constitution of the united states of america. "we the people of the united states in order to form a more perfect union, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, secure the bles blessings of liberty do or dane and establish this constitution for the united states of america." in the interests of justice, i think we have to lock at this over-reputation of police brutality or whatever the nature of these complaints are on people. i mean, 20% is a reputation of actual complaints filed. only 7% of people of african heritage in the city. obviously, i think you can conclude from the statistics that the department is really

punishing a specific segment of this community, and i think you need to look at what our understanding of justice is in order to remedy that. please do so. president mazzucco: any further public comment? >> good evening. my name is barbara rose. i don't understand why we have so much administrative staff that was brought in by a group called "police executive research forum." perf needs to go poof. this is a civil service city. we had an excellent set-up beforehand. we do not need all the brass we have now, and i do think that

you did not check out those people. i think are a blatant fraud. we do not need commanders. how many assistant chiefs or deputy chiefs. are those people my protector? i don't think so. it is the cop on the street, that's my protector, and that's where i want my money to go. thank you. >> item number 4, request the chief of police for approval to receipt actively accept and expend a $178.962 carl moyer grant from the bay area air quality management district to replace the engines on the marine 1 police boat. commissioner kingsley: agree. president mazzucco: item

approved. >> this is a question for chief godown. commissioner chan: i have a question about items 4 and 5. i have a question about the time of it. vice president marshall: do you want me to address anything? president mazzucco: why are we doing this receipt actively. >> i am director of the homeland security and marine unit. it is my understanding that the 20% we were supposed to have of matching funds, we couldn't accept the grant, so we came up with 20%. the 20% now is being awarded through another grant, which

makes us eligible to take the thing at no cost to the city. deborah landis, waiting for me at the door, had to leave. i have just spoken to her about that. i have also spoken to chief matthews. the chief won a grant, and he -- >> i amany from the state department of boating and waterways. i have a start-date of 2011. >> to answer commissioner chan's question, perhaps i could get

standard to include in resolutions the grant is expended receipt active -- retroactive. you want to be able to go back to the grant performance period, but this has to go to the grant as well. chap chan it looks like -- commissioner chan: it looks like there is spl information you can get to us. >> those are made retroactively. president mazzucco: all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. president mazzucco: let's go to

mazzucco. -- let's go to item number 5. >> item number 5, request the chief of police for approval to retroactively accept and expend a $65,000 grant from the california state department of boating and waterways for a boating safety and enforcement grant to purchase the equipment for the marine unit. president mazzucco: all in favor, aye. >> aye. president mazzucco: item number 6. >> 6 is routine administrative business. 6-a is commission announcements. 6-b scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. president mazzucco: could you please relay to the public the zathes dates -- the dates.

>> members of the public are allowed to provide comment at regularly scheduled meetings. in addition the commission is allowed three events. commissioners will attend each event rescheduled on the following date at the following location. february 10, 2011, 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the irish cultural center. next meeting thursday february 17, 2011, 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the southeast facility community located on oakdale avenue. the final meeting will be thursday, february 24th, from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. at the community center located on market street. president mazzucco: thank you for putting this hard work

together. we did invite this to come out. we had over 50 community meetings. a great experience for the community. i encourage you to be there. we cover both sides of the city. i like to see large cross-sections come out there. and yes, it is very important for this commission here. commissioner slaughter. >> thank you, commissioner mazzucco. if we can only have two or three people there. of i would hope that my fellow commissioners, i don't know how we're going to decide this can go where, but i'll put in a marker for the 24th, if it's ok.

vice president marshall: that's why i'm asking the question. >> a former meeting agenda is not required, but we will have all point information available at a meeting agenda to the public. commissioner hammer: i have a question, if four were chosen -- >> the time issues preclude us. you couldn't have a two or three need. >> he can't do it. we are limited. maybe we can go around and share our calendar. vice president marshall: don't

worry about me. >> let me quickly say, we have a full agenda over the next couple months, obviously. there are some tremendously important issues coming in front of the condition. i don't want to lose sie sight of the fact that later this year and hopefully as close in the new year as we can, there are other issues that have to come near the forefront. we have a plan for the america's cup, which is going to be a tremendously important. that will require our atension. -- attention. we have infrastructure budget. we have a lot coming up. i want to put it on our

collective agenda that once we get through the next couple months of real busy, important work, that we take a look at knees critical public safety issues coming down the pike. thank you l. >> you have a closed session on the many reviewing of politic consultants material. there is a private item after that in case you need to discuss further process issues. that would be the case to address that if i want to take part in the public meeting. >> commissioner -- lieutenant, have you posted this on the web site yet? >> it will be. >> did you ask this for the members of the media to disburse

this? >> yes. >> thank you. >> our ticket is very, very full. i suggest we revisit this at some point after the review and have three names for the mayor's office and the names for chief of police. at this point in time it i appreciate what slaughter did. it looks like our agendas are quite full. we have several discipline matters. >> ok. public dement. hearing none, please call item 7. >> item 7 is public comment on all matters pertaining to closed session, including public comment object vote weather to hold item 7 in closed session. president mazzucco: we have a

closed session. we go into closed session to discuss these matters. any public comment? hearing none, please read item 8. >> item 8 is a vote on wl weather to hold item 7 in closed session. >>

president mazzucco: ok, we are back on the record, and for the record, the commissioners are present. all right, we will call line item 14 on whether or not. to -- president mazzucco: there is no public comment. next item, please. secretary lt. falvey: to take other actions for the chief of police. this is included in the event

that the commission was is a cat -- wishes to discuss this. for them to take other action. commissioner: just a quick check of how many people are going to show up? president mazzucco: commissioners? commissioner kingsley? ok, that one covered? scheduled? secretary lt. falvey: it is on the 17th. president mazzucco: volunteers? so we have commissioner chan, dr. marshall. commissioner: