city-wide where there is a forum -- the asian-pacific islander forum, the african american forum, the lgbt forum. in the chair. we met last night. these forms are coming together and talking globally -- forums are coming together and talking globally about community concerns. from those forums comes the additional committee engagement -- community engagement. supervisor mirkarimi: i know there are many slices to the pie, but for example -- there has been discussion in this building about people leaving their cars. is that community policing?

>> that is one example. we use this as a tool throughout the city. i believe there are 68 identified areas throughout the city the department staffs. what we look for from our captains is what the problems are on a daily/weekly, monthly basis. and to say this problem can be removed by staffing a beat or removing a beat, we are actualizing that. part of this is review. part of it is captains and having a police advisory board, which every capt. has, which is composed by members of their district. they say, this is a problem that is maybe not on your radar, but this is a problem we see and we think part of the solution is

putting someone on the beat, which means identifying the right type of officer, committing to the deployment for some time to create their relationship, and looking to the people affected by that problem in a specific area. so, foot beats are simply an element, but it is not a fix-all for everything. supervisor mirkarimi: no, i would not expect that. i guess what i would like is if sfpd could provide us information on how this complement's, buttresses, sustains, adds to what community policing is in san francisco. but there is so much evidence

that there is such a broad, generic meaning for that, that i think only by using this lever, quite honestly, i myself and trying to hone in on what this means for institutional accountability. that has not happened yet. if there is some way to make that happen, i would like to press for that, using this particular conversation. and i would like you to have this money, like coming yesterday. but without -- like, yesterday. but without knowing your use of it, there are questions. i know we have to be flexible. but other cities like chicago, new york, in boston to have -- and boston to have funds restricted. so, if this money was predicated on the procurement of those dollars for that specific, express reason, i would like to

see some information that backs it up. that is it. and if it is possible, that would be great. he could do that. i do not know if you want to speak to that or not. >> i understand what it is you are looking for, as far as some document you can point to that says, or some review that you can point to that says these are all the elements we put into community policing. i guess certainly we can put on paper all the things we felt the sun. what we have tried to do is adopt the philosophy of openness to what the public sees as a problem. we have a numbers process. it is a tracking process. it is a platform by which we track effectiveness against crime. that is a twice a month process

by which we look at what are your captains, what are your lieutenants, investigators doing on a daily basis in the different districts to address the crime problem? that is part of the philosophy of how to be open ourselves to the community said they see what is going on so they have a place where they can come where they can say, "i saw this." it is an overall community policing philosophy. supervisor mirkarimi: i want to be as helpful as i can possibly can while sticking to the objective. how much -- we did this before last year. on the incremental release, what

would be the possible point of moving money is towards the police, but holding back some and so request a plan that speaks to the original question? >> one of the reasons why we said this is a policy matter, there were several reasons. they did not provide us -- we asked for information on our spending plan. they could not provided to us. however, i think what the committee could to this release -- could do is release for whatever time they wanted to and continued to reserves of their be no disruption in services for the department. supervisor mirkarimi: i want to

move forward in the most collaborative process as possible. what do you need to get a plan that before us that releases the remainder of the funds? tell us what you need now. i cannot support the full release, because i do think there has to be followed through based on the discussion that preceded you and dad imperative. it is unfair to you because this has been unresolved for about a year. >> department wants to be responsive to what format you want for how you want this defined, how you want this fleshed out. but we probably have something in existence we can get to you. a think it is a matter of -- i think it is a matter of the denting find someone in my staff that can meet with you -- of identifying someone in my staff that can be with you. supervisor mirkarimi: by all

means. i do not know if you're cfo -- what would to be supportive of in releasing, and how to me talk to some of the unknowns that have not been presented yet? >> madame chair, supervisor mirkarimi, for further clarification, if you look at page four of our reports, on table one. you will notice that the total cost of fiscal year 2010-2011 for 50 is over $5 million. if the committee -- they only have 31 now. if the committee wanted to simply release funds for the year prior to your next

submission, conservatively, if you gave them $3 million, it would be more than they need. supervisor mirkarimi: what is the remainder after the $3 million? >> 13 million to a dozen dollars. it would be slightly over $10 million. supervisor chu: according to the chart here it says in 2009, two dozen 10, 2011, we would have spent $4.9 million. that would represent about $18.5 million expenditure through the fiscal year, we have a $60 million grant and we have released only $2.4 million. so it does not quite add up to even the first year's worth of

expenses, really. i think there is confusion about what that cost should be. >> madam chair, they have not hired the 50 positions. that minimizes -- it distorts the projections. supervisor chu: right. maybe we could represents -- our budget analyst has indicated there is a time. where our controller of this -- there is a time period where our controller can evaluate the budget process. supervisor mirkarimi: of to a certain amount. >> we hired a total of 42, and then through attrition, we have 31 remaining we quickly identified we hire entry-level and collateral.

we know that latter role gives us an opportunity to train because -- lateral gives us an opportunity to train because they have experience. we have worked with a jar and the civil service commission. right now, we are at a very critical time. we have 100 of these people in the background process. we have a hiring plan. we will have all these positions filled before the end of the fiscal year. we would request that we look at a number of $6 million to give as to june, and after that, by then, i am certainly will have a document or something in front of you that you will be comfortable with to give you an understanding of what we mean when we talk about community policing. then we can have further discussions. i know we're in the mid to --

the middle of the budget cycle now. that would allow the police department to pay and expenses that are already incurred and move through the fiscal year. supervisor chu: ok. just to reiterate, i think the proposal supervisor mirkarimi is asking for is to release an amount that would not enter the department's ability to hire and recruits, but to answer the question of community policing, which i think is a fair question. we will ask the comptroller's office to release only the amount that is needed through gene -- june. supervisor mirkarimi: 2 first. -- june 1.

supervisor chu: the department is coming back -- supervisor mirkarimi: i do not want to confuse it with their budget. supervisor chu: do you have a figure of how much need to get through to that time? >> yes, $6 million. supervisor mirkarimi: sorry for interrupting. relative to your discussion with the budget analyst based on what is needed -- supervisor chu: supervisor kim? supervisor kim: i have some questions to help specify what would be helpful. what needs were prior to this france -- grant that we were not able to do with the existing budget, whether it was the number of town hall meetings in

different neighborhoods, requests from residents in terms of policing and patrol. just and think there is a larger vision of what community policing means, just to talk about what the gap was prior to the grants and how the grant was able to fill that gap. >> ok. supervisor mirkarimi: i think that would be helpful. just to recap -- >> madam chair, members of the committee, supervisor mirkarimi, a thing with the chair is asking would be fined -- i think what the chair is asking would be fine. she is indicating $6 million. even with $6 million, there would be $7 million left.

number two, the comptroller will only allow you to extend their actual amount. it will not get extended. i think that is a reasonable approach. i think the objective is there is a big chunk of the money that would be continued to be held on reserves. supervisor mirkarimi: how long would you expect an fto to get through the academy compared to lateral movement? >> the 19 that remain will go through a training program up at the academy, and then they will go through a field training program. supervisor can have a question about whether this was to get -- whether this was to address a gap in staffing.

we knew attrition was coming, and we did not fund any excesses' last year. 2009 was the last grant for classes. it was not with respect to create these positions for this. this kind of staffing is necessary in light of what is coming away. supervisor mirkarimi: you mean the attrition? >> right. retirement eligible. we have over 300 with 30 years or more service. supervisor mirkarimi: so 30 officers have been brought on, but there had been resignations or retirements of 17, leaving the remainder of 25 is what we had calculated.

we get that. yes. >> sorry. just the attrition, the regular attrition of the police department. i do not know if you were talking about attrition of the 42 being hired and the non- successful candidates. supervisor mirkarimi: oh, that is a good question. how many did not cut it? >> 42 were hired. 19 positions are open again. that is where we are. we are hopeful the hiring people with the underlying skills that the department can train and deploy quickly. supervisor mirkarimi: i will make arrangements with your

department to go ahead and follow through for those larger questions, see what we can funnel, you know, into a better understanding of how a grant of this importance will be applied and we will go from there. we have a final step now that we release $6 million if you were in the position of needing that. that is there. the rest is predicated on what emerges in terms of some kind of program, plan, what have you about community policing. >> understood. supervisor mirkarimi: thank you. supervisor chu: are the members of the public that wish to speak on this item? this is item no. 8. seeing none, public comment is

closed. supervisor mirkarimi: i will motion the release of up to $6 million for the period ending in june relative to the hiring needs of the comptroller's office in addition to the plan that will collectively come together to see what is this notion of community policing. supervisor chu: ok, we have a motion to release $6 million of the $13.2 million that remains. also a request from me -- as we do have further conversations, one of the department's we try to bring up prior to the budget is the police department, and at that moment, it would be appropriate for the department to answer some questions about policing, but also to talk about

what is happening in the department's overall with attrition, with your staffing so we have a good understanding. ok? without objection. >> did i just get a clarification as to the dates we are supposed to identify the needs through? supervisor chu: i believe it is set at june 1 at a maximum of $6 million at this time. >> thank you. supervisor mirkarimi: i was trying to have it so it did not collide when we were deep in the throes of the budget process. supervisor chu: what we say we will be having the budget conversation, and that is my commitment to the committee that we do have that happen in may. >> ok. >> $6 million. supervisor chu: we are releasing a maximum of $6 million and that

should be released only for the police department to pay for their personnel. it could extend beyond the june 1 date if it is now more than $6 million. ok? thank you. ok, item number nine, please. >> resolution authorizing the recreation and park department general manager to enter into a lease with portsmouth plaza parking corp. for the operation of the portsmouth square for ross. i would like to announce overflow viewing has been allocated. supervisor chu: thank you. we have been joined by the president of the board, david chew. why don't we open this up to the department -- david chiu.

when we open this up to the department? there will be a presentation. before you speak -- let's hear to what supervisor to has -- supervisor david chiu has. supervisor chiu this pertains to a district in the heart of my district in downtown the portsmouth plaza parking corp. is community-based. we are considering a release to the same nonprofit. this nonprofit has had an amazing history. in the 1960's, the city politicians did not support building in the heart of chinatown. said chinese leaders came together to hire their own consultants to present with a

financing formula. over the years, this the raj, under the management of this nonprofit, has supported the local neighborhood in chinatown, north beach, in the financial district. when the original lease expired, the parks department explored a variety of options. i want to thank the department for their commitment that the assets should remain committee- based. today we're talking about a 40- year lease approval. i know in a moment -- we will discuss some of the details of this. i want to thank all of the committee members who have supported this grosz over the past 50 years -- who have supported this garage over the past 50 years. i know several of you are here to talk about the fact that this is the garage that has had

expenses substantially below budget and has done all the operating -- they have done this with the zero pay and zero benefits. with that, could you make a presentation, please? supervisor chu: thank you. >> good afternoon. thank you for the introduction president chiu. the entity is a nonprofit that consists of committee members -- committee members and they have operated it without a fee since

1962 when they build the garage really of their own volition without the approval of the city. during the term of this lease, the community-based nonprofit work very closely with the chinatown community. one of the things that was in the original lease was a small contribution of the portsmouth square -- portsmouth plaza parking corp. to local nonprofits. it escalated to $55,000 in this fiscal year. these are small, chinatown- based nonprofits to strengthen the community and serves. it is one of the number of city garages operated by nonprofits.

that includes the largest to russia in the city, the second largest for rushed in the city. -- garage in the city. the lease you have before you is for a term of four years. the length of time is -- a term of 40 years. didn't the time is to amortize that would be developed at a future date once the lease is executed. there would be an initial grant of $880,000 paid to the city, an initial transfer from the existing capital fund to the general fund during this budget year. the city would continue to receive 85% of net revenue. 85% of net revenue goes to the

recreation and parks department general fund and a portion goes into the capital improvement fund at the site. we will be able to continue to issue small micro grants to neighborhood nonprofits. we scaled this back to $50,000 in this fiscal year. those would be subject to city approval. the parking rates would continue to be set by the mta commission. additionally, the proposed lease requires the corporation to submit annually and operating budgets to the mta and to the comptroller's office. they have absolute discretion over setting that annual budgets, and should there be any variants in the budget, the

portsmouth plaza parking corp. would extend their authorization, they would need to receive appropriate approval from both the mta and the comptroller's office. lastly, and want to talk about some of the improvements -- i want to talk to us some of the improvements this lease does foresee. we released in 2002. the corporation undertook a review of the garage. while there were no significant seismic needs of the building, there was the need for restoration to electrical and training systems, as well as cracks to the building that needed to be updated -- electoral -- electrical and

draining systems. the cost would be approximately $5.2 million. we have propose to undertake financing to ensure the garage is available for the community two years. the improvements would be subject to approval of the recreation and park department and the mta, and the financing of the approval would be subject to the approval of the rec park, mta, and ultimately the board of supervisors. the commission has to determine the current condition of the facility. we anticipate that execution -- that on execution of this least we would work diligently