they offload. right now, it is two stops. there is one stop at pier 96. they can do it all at one place. , once they go to the port, the competitive bidding process has been available, and all of that transport is open to competitive bid because there is -- the garbage is no longer going over the streets. there is also an opportunity for the port of san francisco to enter into short shifting, which would allow for federal grants because that is currently being made available through the obama administration in order to get trucks off of the road and save the ecology. this is truly a viable alternative that needs to be looked up and given a chance. thank you very much. -- that needs to be looked at

and given a chance. thank you very much. chair chu: 50. >> i have a great affinity for the department and the -- thank you. we can talk about battles on both sides, but i think the budget analyst is giving you the very clear path and some clear things to think about and some choices about what to do. the port should have been considered in this process. i do not know why they were not. they are the perfect place for maritime, as you know, and i am concerned about moving forward and what this means for the future. i would like to see a solution where the port, recology, the union, and the citizens of bayview all benefit from this. i have not seen this.

no one is disputing the work that the department of environment has done. there's zero ways program is second to none. it is fantastic -- their zero- waste program is second to none. i do not think this was explored as well as at should have been, and i think the budget analyst has given you a good idea of what to look for. if i may -- i think that is the laptop. anyway, this is pure 96, 94, and that is the san francisco bay railroad, which i work for -- this is pier 96, 94. these containers are containers that can be used to haul municipal waste, much like new york, much like new jersey. that is what they do.

they mandated it. i think you have the time. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> thank you, honorable supervisors. i am a lifelong resident here. i was an officer on the port commission for some time. the recology contracts, on a encourage the competitive bidding -- i encouraged the competitive bidding process -- i encourage the competitive bidding process. whether in rai l -- it be rail or barge at pier 96, both are considerably cheaper most of transportation, and they are used to further decrease the carbon footprint of any other mode that you have considered so

far. this could assure interesting -- existing jobs, almost entirely held by people in a zip code, and they would not be vulnerable to displacement. this was funded, of course, by san francisco taxpayers or ratepayers. the logical thing would be to shift this away from san francisco, and do not forget, recology has the ability to opt out for one of the aspects of what they do with just a one- your notice -- a one-year notice. we should all be preserving maritime in the port of san francisco. this will bring badly needed

revenue to the port, but the bottom line is this is an opportunity to bring badly needed relief to ratepayers. it is a win-win situation. chair chu: thank you. let me also calling few names. [reading names] -- call a few names. >> i am here as a resident as a taxpayer in san francisco. i do not know the ins and outs of this issue, but i would sit judging by what i heard today, it really sounds like the tail has a wide to the dog -- has wagged the dog, and we are going

to explain why we are using this particular company. clearly, they are cutting edge, great employment practices, and they have done a great job for the city of san francisco, but what we have to be concerned about is the fiduciary duty for the city and the ratepayers, and that is the only concern. i think many speakers before me have talked about why a transfer station at the port would be a great idea, and i just want to build on that as a neighbor to say that the jobs in our neighborhood are extremely important to us. this is an economically impoverished area. probably the poorest part in san francisco. it has been neglected for a long time. the recycling center needs to stay, and we need to build on that with a state of the art recycling center to create jobs here and build more and to start bring this back to health. on that note, the neighborhood planning has gone on in the community adjacent, and it takes into account that there will be

like to and heavy industrial uses in this area. furthermore, if the port could capture some of this revenue, we do use that revenue to improve infrastructure, including a long amador street, which would take some traffic off of cargo weight and the neighboring streets around there. it would be safer. we would save at least 100 truck trips per day by having the garbage going straight to the transfer station along the streets of san francisco rather than some going to a recycling center somewhere else. thanks. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is chuck page. the closest landfills to san francisco. i would like to speak to you. i have been elected to my second term in saratoga, and i want to commend you for the length of

time you've put in. also for the questions you're asking. as you look around california and around the country, we see more and more people asking for sunshine to be spread on processes just like this one. when there is a doubt, when there is a question, when there is a perception of darkness, it is korea, so i commend you and urge you to do it. i do want to go back to one thing that i sought in the original rfp, regarding the 1932 refuse collection and disposal ordinance. is it restated in the rfp it does not address consolidating materials and recovery or transporting them to of the facilities. that was not a part of the original ordinance, and i urge you to reconsider this. thank you. >> good afternoon. i am susan. i were present a citizen group that is opposed to this contract.

-- i represent a citizen group. i have submitted documents and those from the yuba county board of supervisors meeting yesterday, and in that meeting, the board formed an ad hoc committee to consider raising the fees, which is the sole discretion of the board, according -- according to the conditional use permit. in addition to the other permits, the primary reason for the hearing was to consider the review of the existing use permit, whether it was in compliance with the mitigation measures. they determined to determine the consideration of the rail, which will require review, until other issues are resolved. but in addition, an administrative hearing has been requested to your house recology

has been a counter andtheir wast -- has been counting their waste. in addition to the review of the existing use permit, part of it has to do with the fact that 15% of the landfill has the potential to be 2.5 to 5 feet between ground water and a lake. such a confirmation should at a minimum be postponed until it is reviewed by the board of supervisors in yuba county. including the fees to be charged for disposal. thank you. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> i am here today to speak

specifically to the rail movement and speech to the fact that this can move it in a safe and efficient and environmentally friendly way. this is the safest and almost 1 250 years in terms of trade accidents last year. although we are not talking about hazmat today. 1.5 million to 1.6 million loads of hazmat and does it with a safety lever wrote -- level greater than any other mode. 1100 cars. 480 miles per gallon. but the that translates into green rusk's reductions. right now, it only creates 2% of

the greenhouse gases. but but the matter is, we are not going to be safe -- we can be safe and environmentally friendly. because it is a union pacific property, a pad, moving it to a train, there will not be any secret trigger there. we will provide this service in a safe and efficient way. any questions. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> i live in sutter county, a

neighboring city to yuba county. i am a first-generation there, but my kids are there. i owned businesses there, and i am a partner of a minority-owned business, and it is funny how something as simple as trash in landfills can get so complex. my company is working with recology, and we have found them to be very forward thinking, very responsible. there are some potentially complex problems. certainly, but there are issues that need further discussion and review, but this is somewhat of a moving target. as we have seen by the regulatory agencies and their reports and the budget committee, i think the oversight has been good. i think you research has been thorough, and there is mitigation in place, so i am here today to support the facilitation agreement and the

proposal that is in front of you today, and this is not an indefinite contract, of course. i believe it is time to act on it responsibly and quickly and to put things into place and review them over time. i do not think we have to hold recology's feet to the fire. i think they will perform. again, this is not an indefinite contract, and i think that is a mitigating factor that you have to your benefit, so, again, i am here to urge your acceptance of this agreement. thank you. chair chu: 80. >> chairman -- thank you. >> chairman chu, i've seen

their operations, and they are remarkable. i am proud to have this in yuba county to offer it to your community. i believe the headline is that a meeting seller needs a willing buyer, citizens that can save $120 million. the co2 emissions reduction of 22 million pounds over tenures, and lower-priced. i mean, the issue today is the landfill, and a very, very substantial savings in tipping fees. i think recology has shown they are a forward-looking company. they had shown themselves willing to work with you in the past, and it took them 4.5 years to the winning bidder by a substantial margin, and i think this is a very substantial question. this is much needed revenue to a county korea to replace it, we

were the property taxes but we would not see for maybe 10 years. we have great need we have unemployment. finally, san francisco has 11 times more people than you the county. we have 13 times more space and land. we are an excellent partner to the san francisco community, and we welcome your business. thank you. chair chu: thank you, and for the record, what is your name? >> brian rogers. chair chu: 80. >> i am a resident of the bayview, and i have a business in the bayview, and i have been involved in the community activities in the bayview for over 10 years, and in that time, i have for the citizens of our community talk about essentially one thing, jobs. they all want jobs, in this proposal to move the garbage by

truck to oakland does create a number of jobs, in oakland. we want to keep those jobs in san francisco, and i support supervisor mirkarimi's suggestion to look at the wall picture, because the answer really is pretty simple. we collect our garbage in san francisco and take it to our port and put it to barges by our people. we save jobs. we save money. we save the environment, and we say good relations with our neighbors. it can be a win-win for everybody. recology is a great company, but this is not about recology. it is about garbage, and i think we should look of these more thoroughly than we have in the past. i urge you to do so. thank you. chair chu: thank you.

>> i represent the yuba centre economic development organization, the lead development agency for the two- county region and the municipalities that are within those two counties, and i am here today to say that while you have heard from some of the local residents, yuba county does not really want you the cities -- you the city does not really what san francisco is garbage. ed is not necessarily the opinion of all. this is a huge opportunity for us to enhance our job market with the jobs that will come with the project, the jobs being from other projects that this will spur, as well as the financial impact to the county. the one thing i would like you to take into consideration, we have heard that you the county will be reviewing the tipping

fee. -- yuba county will be reviewing the tipping fee. its citizens are often struggling, consistently. yuba county is very aware of the impact of any kind of tipping fee that they may increase will have a great impact on our residents. they will take that into consideration before they make any recommendation for an increase in fees. thank you. chair chu: just a question for you, if they raise it in yuba county, that would apply to residents and others? >> i believe that the fee would be passed on. chair chu: thank you. alas, i have is for david tucker. if there are any more who would like to speak, and ask that you would line up in the aisle so that you could give your comment

-- i ask that you would line up. >> good afternoon, supervisors pleaded my name is nancy jones. i am a business and set -- good afternoon, supervisors. my name is mandy jones. i am a business person and residents. -- resident. we would like to applaud you. i am also here representing the community that celebrates the importance of living green. we can brag. i believe we have a 70% diversion rate. you have a 77% diversion rate. our landfill has plenty of room for your garbage. we would love to have it. thank you. i am here in support, and i hope that you will pass this resolution today to accept

recology's proposal. thank you. chair chu: the final cards that i have. [reading names] >> i am a proud recology employee owner. we do enjoy a 70% diversion rates. we have worked really hard at that over a minimum of 10 years to achieve that, and i can tell you that the citizens that they get the program, and they understand the recycling, the importance, the composting. i dissed hope that you consider that. >> madam chair person, i have

been a resident of san francisco since birth. i wear two hats. the first is john smith citizen. i still reside in the community. over 57 years. one thing i have learned, recology will support the community. it has and will. my second hat is that i am an employer. i have been there 35 years. before recycling was popular. i watched my supervisors. they handed down what we had to do as far as recology. these young men, stand-up, from sunset, these are a project that

our supervisors -- sometimes, we did not think they had justification, but we carried it out anyway. i am here to say that they are going to do what is right for san francisco. they are going to do right to yuba city. over 35 years. i would like you to say ok to it. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> honorable supervisors, my name is -- on of the public relations manager for recology in san francisco. -- i am the public relations manager. i in here to deliver 71 letters in the binders from merchant

associations -- i am here to deliver these. restauranteur groups, all across the city. -- restaurant groups. artists. these are the voices of san francisco. people took the time to write these letters. and what do they say? they say that they liked the idea of saving $125 million less than the losing bidder. they like the idea of saving 1 million gallons of fuel, and they like this process. this has been a thorough and transparent process. very strongly. i would like to submit these letters. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is mary.

i am the president of a tug and barge operator. we are located at pier 50. we have been in business for many years, and part to that, we were where the giants are now, pier 46. we bring it to our docks, and we work with recology, golden gate, sunset. they are a great company, but if this is another opportunity for maritime right now, i think it should be looked into. we bring barges renaud intopier 96 for sand and gravel. we have 12 barges on the bay bridge, and there are others available if something was needed, so i think it is another avenue that should be

investigated, and any maritime that can be brought into the port would be a great thing. we're also union. >> good afternoon. my name is robert. i am a native san franciscan. a 15-year recology employee. i still consider myself somewhat of a new employee because of the many employees at recology. we have men in women -- and women with 10, 20, 30, 40 years. it brings to light the dedication, commitment, and pride of the work force t recology. we work under many adverse conditions on all hours of the day. in order to reach our goal to make san francisco one of the

most beautiful cities in the world. we volunteer throw the city and in communities and have different programs to better our way of life. our service is second to none in the waste industry. we're also the leader in alternative ways solutions, which we call waster zero -- in alternative waste solution. san francisco is the model, and others are watching. san francisco and recology working together can show the world a better way to a greener tomorrow. in these difficult economic times, cities are looking for ways to save money. the money you spend must be spent in a wise and intelligent way. investing in recology is not

just a strong investment today, but a strong investment for tomorrow, our children, our community, and for the city of san francisco. thank you. chair chu. thank you. >> my name is david tucker, waste management. one question that still has to be asked and answered is why is it the ratepayers are the ones responsible for subsidize the transportation system when what the city countered charter is asking for is a zerowaste -- is zero waste by 2020? that is a lot of money. there are other landfills. it is difficult to be paying for this. that is the question you have to ask yourself.

your material will not be what will be used. thank you. chair chu: thank you. next speaker. >> ibm lee -- i am lee gray, a local trucking company. i oppose the proposal that is on the table here -- sorry about that. there was no mention of local businesses' participation. i work with waste solutions, waste management, and other local small businesses throughout the san francisco bay area, and because of their opportunities,