administrator, bart was there -- i believe you were there as well. we put option b on the table because of infrastructure needs, it was something that daly city was not really interested in, and the cost was sort of prohibitive. we do not need to discuss option b. >> ok. that was a long-term solution. commissioner avalos: it is great, but once you have the overhead wires there, is permanently there. >> so these are the options. again, we would look at a as a five-year solution before we

consider permanent construction. a is also more practical at this point. in b, trolly coaches. we have scarce capital right now. there are other names for service, including the extension of the 22 line into mission bay. commissioner campos: a question about your comparison. a lot of times when you increase service, you bring in added revenue. would that happen with option a, is that already taken into account? >> part of the ridership will be existing. instead of transferring, they could just continue.

it will probably induce new ridership, but we believe most of them will be people who are currently writing -- riding. this is the preferred route. it continues on mission to its current terminus and then uses john daly boulevard, to the bart station. these were two alternatives that we discussed previously that were less desirable, harder to be exacted by the community. it goes through some residential areas and its length in the travel time, so it adds to the operating cost, and it is more difficult to accommodate the 60-foot vehicles.

these are the advantages of the preferred route. i discussed these previously. the daly city bart station access study that is currently ongoing will be useful. it will provide that piece of information that is required to finish the costing of this project. that is at the station itself. right now, the station is pretty confined. the plan is to accommodate the 20, 8, 14, and perhaps a few other lines. the area needs to be big enough to accommodate the loading and unloading activities, as well as layover activities. that is one thing that we do not

have costing information on this time. the next step -- again, we do not need to fund this extension at the moment. but we need to identify sufficient bus layover and passenger boarding spaces, how we can obtain the funding to operate, develop the longer term trolly extensions as a longer-term strategy. working with daly city to see if they can accommodate the potential overhead wires in their jurisdiction. commissioner campos: thank you.

i know last year we have talked about something, that service cuts were looming. there was discussion that this could be possible in 2013. i understand the needs of the capacity at the daly city bart station. i am a little bit disconcerted about the time line you are proposing here, but i want to be helpful as we move forward, where i can assist -- relationships with dailies city, bart, any way that my office can be assistance, i am available. my question was, there are a lot of people in my district and sean elsbernd's district who want to the daly city bart. we walk -- walk to the daly city

bart. questions about whether or not we can even use our clipper card. there were discussions about how we can share that usage with san francisco at the daly city bart. >> i do not have that answer. that is something that i can come back to you on. we look forward to your guidance, going forward. commissioner campos: on the issue of the time line, the study is scheduled to conclude in the fall of this year. what is the timing on this? when can we expect to see something concrete? >> it depends on the final station improvements, what part is allocated to this particular extension proposal. and then we have total package

cost together, then we can see where we can get funding from. commissioner campos: how long will that take? >> we can start evaluating and collecting the last piece. we should have some information by the time we meet next time. commissioner campos: so for purposes of this committee, when can we have the specs are you can report on the status of this? >> probably in september, october. commissioner campos: that is a long time. commissioner avalos: can we make it july? commissioner campos: we will have a hearing in july and see where you are. is there anyone from the public that would like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. actually, we do. please come on up.

>> good morning. local 258. let's talk about the switchbacks. most of the time, we do not know when they are going to occur. for example, there is a delay in the subway but we do not know until we come out of the portal. whoever got on in the subway will not know there will be a switch back. the other thing i wanted to mention, on the border team line, i have lived my life on that line -- 14 line, i have lived my life on that line. we need to look not only at the switchbacks, time from point a to point b, and that is the key

point. we are going to have switchbacks. will that solve the problem? now. the other question is the equipment. -- no. we need better equipment to provide the service that san franciscans deserve. we need to work hard on that issue. not only that, the other point i want to make, backdoor loading. we tell our members that back door loading is fine. then a couple of months later, we say it is not. are we leaving the issue to the operator to handle? we do not know when someone is impacted. that is another thing that you have to look at.

not only that -- some of the back doors, you may have a green light to go. look at these issues, please. commissioner campos: thank you. on the issue of equipment, i do think that is an important issue and maybe something we can bring up at a later meeting. next speaker, please. >> hello, supervisors. mark caswell, working to organize a writer's on the 14th mission. the thing we are hearing loud and clear is reliability, reliability, reliability. we want to make sure we are addressing reliability first and foremost for different writers -- riders. commissioner campos: great. thank you.

next speaker, please. >> [unintelligible] just a question on the switchback. if the 49 were just one line, i would make the comment -- the 24 and the 68 to get a more comprehensive view of the data and the comparison. commissioner campos: thank you. any other speaker? seeing non-, public comment is closed. >> we have a few follow-up questions for the mta. i know when we had the previous hearing, supervisor avalos and i asked the question is pertinent to win the next train would be. the other important issue was the tracking.

was it a delayed? and equipment failure? the public speaker reminded us of that we know we have a significant amounts of those. those are significant issues we have to address with mta and in our body here. i am wondering as we track this data, when the lrv's are arriving, are we tracking when the switchbacks need to occur. >> thank you we are tracking -- thank you. we are tracking directly within our control versus other events

that occur, mostly on the street. it is a very challenging, for us, because of delays. we continue to look -- we take every delay and i put together on a monthly basis of cause, and nature of each of the vehicle delays. we look at the maintenance programs. we look at the particular campaigns. we have very tight margins of availability on the lrv's. we have 130 scheduled, not including the f line. the age, condition, the rail vehicles have not had a full midlife overall.

they are between 15 years old and 18 years old. our real car usually lasts 30 years. -- a railcar usually lasts 30 years. working with the manufacturers, the suppliers on these issues, but it is a cause of concern for us, because it is the single biggest cause of delays. commissioner chiu: when you provide the january report, can you provide the causes for those switchbacks? one of the commitments the mta made was to the riders. i appreciate the improvements he

made with the -- the improvements he made with this effort. we have heard complaints about not hearing about a switchback until leaving the lrv's. commissioner campos: commissioner avalos? commissioner avalos: it looks like there are some discussions going on. i want to make sure the mta is part of those discussions. i want to make sure there is a robust conversation so that we can have the best presentation in the city. there is a study. the mta is going to be promoting

that idea and wholeheartedly digging into that process. >> good to hear. >> do you want to answer that, for -- or -- >> i have consulted with the expert and he says i should answer yes. commissioner avalos: good to hear. i look forward to that recommendation. other than from the mta, i think it would be imported to be part of that process as well. -- it would be important to be part of that process as well. if we are moving forward on that, the connection between daly city bart and mca, it makes it possible to receive federal funding -- mca, it makes it possible to receive federal

funding. maybe they do not all come from the mta. that will help us on our end, those dollars, and if the transportation authority can be part of that, i am also hoping they will look at the data as well. it would be very, very helpful. commissioner campos: colleagues, can meet have a motion to continue to the call of the chair and have a hearing, follow-up hearing in july? motion by commissioner avalos. if we can take that without objection. madam clerk, if we can do the reading. >> market street project -- the

regulation for fire safety. >> good morning. >> my name is chad rathman and i will be making a brief presentation on the improvements to the northeast corner of market street. this is agenda item this projece second stage of implementation of this project. the first stage was in 2006 on a one way four-lane street on market. the project would be part of the prioritization program ended is also consistent with the area plan in the upper market

division. the most significant improvements are for bicyclists and pedestrians. improving the existing curbs line on the northeast corner of the intersection -- you should have paper copies as well as the slide. we are moving of the pedestrian signal and constructing an ada compliance kirk raab. -- curb ramp. it will increase the crossing distance, and it will visually narrow market street to motorists. the project has been environmentally cleared and is ready to proceed. it is approximately $61,000.

the department of public works staff will move forward and the public will finalize the design. the design is scheduled for completion in fall 2011. the project is scheduled for completion in summer 2012. finally, i can take questions, and i also have a staff. >> commissioner wiener? commissioner wiener: thank you. i just want to complement staff on more -- moving forward with this. it is an improvement to the area. it is a dead area that can be used -- it is a dead area that no one can be used.

-- can reuse. this stretch of market around the safeway, it needs more activity. the whole foods project will add increased foot traffic. commissioner campos: great. thank you, commissioner. colleagues, any other questions? is there any member of the public would like to speak on this item? please come forward. >> hello, commissioners. mark caswell again.

we think this is a great use of public space. the whole foods going in. it is definitely improving public safety. yet another great project coming forward from the mta. we are happy to see this moving forward. thank you. commissioner campos: thank you. if there is -- is there any other member of the public like to speak? seeing and 9, public comment is closed -- seeing none, public comment is closed. can we take this without objection? thank you. madam clerk, call item seven. >> affirm the commitment to the project. this is an action item. >> good morning, commissioners.

maria lombardo. you got a preview of this back in november. this is a three-part action the primary part is the primary plan for the subway project. for context, december 2011 is when the sfmta will get funding for the project. this is a pretty big deal. it is all 1.7 $5 million project -- $1.75 million. it represents the federal commitment to fully funding the project. it is a really big deal for the project. that is the plan -- let's back up a second. there are many things the mta

has to do, to provide in order to have the full funding -- full funding granted. one of those is to show the dollars committed to the project within the guidelines that is scheduled for later this month. they have asked us to take a similar action, which includes three affirmation of the project as well. i will go over a few parts of the funding plan that we had in november. this focuses on the funding plan. we had $100 million of funding. i am sorry. this chart is page 53 and in your memorandum if you want to look. really what happened is the in

g-8 would be ready to -- really would happen is the m.t.a. would be able to provide additional bond fund. our committee provides $103 million in additional funds. both these categories are funds that are given to the mta by formula from the state. the capitol refunding programming is of belts $38 million. the majority involves taking existing projects and returning to the authority to give other elms -- eligible property projects, backed to the social summit. -- subway. the last part of the action today is improving those reprogramming actions.

so on page 60 in your packet -- oh. page 60 of your packet is a summary of the full funding planning notice. two. have a couple of things in here. it does not mean all the funds are in hand. i wanted to flag the ones on this page. the prop 1-a funds. these are all state funds. it is almost certain they will not be available. this us to do with the outgoing state budget. the state has to be able to issue bonds. the funds will be there, but the project may not be there in time.

looking at a number of aspects, we're continuing to look at potential savings on bids, trying to manage the overall climate pretty well. reducing the overall projects, returning to the project. and inevitably, there is the restructuring of the financing plan. there is a potential swap that would replace some of our on programs state writ funds. commissioner campos: may i ask a follow-up? on page four of your report, you notice the mta has of financial mismanagement plan. when is that going to be executed by the ncaa? >> the program ends -- i believe it is in april. commissioner campos: ok.

thank you. >> i might as well talk briefly about the authority's commitment to the project. $132 million is the current commitment. that is comprised of prop k funds, state traffic congestion relief funds. the prop k money is there. all that remains is the state funds that have not gone to the program. briefly, we have $19.7 million in local programs. there are some eligibility

issues. there is a $30 million writ commitment. these programs are all available in 2012 and 2013. we will probably bring that action to you, hopefully next time. the very last part of this action is on page 55 and 56 of your memo. it has to do with reprogramming actions. this basically refers to deobligating funds. the first category that is affected is the muni funds. $18.7 million are being deallocated. this is possible through the common nation $9