call] commissioner cavellini is abs ent. president newlin: public comment. members of the public may address the commission that are within the subject matter or jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items, you can address the commission at the time such item is called. anyone that would like to partaken public comment? >> i want to address a couple of things that people are talking about that we have not gotten in a concrete answer. the officer is here today and is welcome knowledge.

we want to talk about permits in terms of liquor licenses as kind of a privilege. when they are transferred, they are often viewed as new applications. they are treated as such. we have counsel here that has talked about the license as property, in terms of also amendment rights. i would like to see some clarity. when they are transferred and they want to sell the business, are the personal property? is it something that is viewed as a privilege? if it goes into escrow, what people thought they were selling

doesn't come out as they thought they were selling. buyers are propping the sale and it is not consummated. i would like to get some clarity there. we have a couple of people in the audience because they know a lot more about it than i do. president newlin: anybody else? seeing none -- item number two. review and approval. >> i move to approve. >> i second. >> [roll call vote]

commissioner roja: i abstain. president newlin: i abstain as well. >> they are approved. can you hold the volume down? president newlin: minutes approved, item number three, a report of the executive director. >> commissioners, the evening. my report shall be brief. the legislative policy of de, i have to talk to you about tonight, i don't know how many of you paid attention to the

board of supervisors. we called for a hearing requesting the economic impact study. i. attached a short memorandum with information regarding that instruction and the file number so you can follow it. that happened on february 1, and there will be a hearing at land use and economic development committee when the report is finished. it will be at least a month to before we see that report. it could be even longer. the staff was involved in the meeting today regarding the scope of the study. the staff will continue to keep the commission in formed of the progress. that takes care of the

legislative update for now. we expect the supervisors to continue to introduce other legislation that involves the entertainment commission. we wanted to give you an update on the neighbor summit. it is scheduled for april 6 of this year. the research on finding appropriate venues at this point, the park has facilitated the use and we are still working on the details. hopefully, that will be concrete by the end of the week. working with of corruption are -- both commissioners perez and meko, other format concerns is that this will take place between the hours of 5:00 and 8:30 so that we can get full participation from folks that have jobs.

it will be done in conjunction with the neighborhood and our network. -- poewwer network. a faction of the police department, i think they ought to be involved in this. and the mayor's office, the staff will continue to keep you informed. any other commissioners will have to work out how to keep a quorum from appearing. we might have to rotate through or something like that. >> if it is a public meeting, why can't we all be there? the public is invited. >> i believe, and maybe

commissioner meko can shed light, if there are too many commissioners in a room -- >> this comes up with members of the board of supervisors all the time. by my experience, supervisors are very careful not to allow a quorum to be reached in the room at any one time. regardless of whether it has been properly noticed. the agenda is not going to be so specific. there is the possibility that the discussion will go outside of the agenda as public meetings often do. generally, supervisors will leave the room in order to maintain a minority presence at any time, so is -- if you would

like to get an opinion from the city attorney on that, go ahead. >> i think it will take 30 seconds. >> he does everything. >> when in doubt, don't reach a quorum. >> i wanted to update the commission on the joint hearing with the youth commission on issues related to use entertainment opportunities -- youth entertainment opportunities. i was speaking earlier today, and the meeting is being scheduled for sometime either before or during our regular entertainment commission meeting. i was confused and i thought it was february, we have lots of

advance notice. , march 22. we will roll into the regular meeting at the regular time. depending on how heavy the agenda is, we might do a special order sometime soon after the meeting. and do it a little bit later in the evening. again, i will let you know as soon as i find out when we have locked stuff down. anyone that is participating in that hearing is welcome to do so. you are not obligated to do so. we are running at of details as far as the agenda items, if you will, for that hearing. it will definitely discuss the bill on other concerns related

to that. i will get you more specifics as we go forward. i had agendized the sfpd liaison issues. i don't have any dates, but if they will come up to the microphone and maybe give us an update on where we are with those training at the station. lastly, i wanted to introduce some positive light on san francisco music and entertainment. we often talk about negative things introducing a very simple project called, "this day in san francisco music."

is a little joint venture. on this day, 1970, the grateful dead played at the corner of market street. all three of those legends have passed and the fillmore is back to gary strieker. they are remembered in a live recording of his performance that you can stream for free. the recording academy is located on union street and was created in 1974 and is the fourth largest membership of music industry professionals in the united states. this week is grammy week. it culminates with the awards in l.a.. it includes and green day, her train, and neil young, and local producers.

lastly, it is also the birthday of the lead singer of motley crue. that's it. that's my report on "this day and music. -- in music." it is probably more information than you will ever want to know. i have no corrective actions on permits at this point, which is a good thing. i will hand it over to give you some highlights. >> that was awesome. i love the fact that you mentioned leslie ann jones. i have the distinct pleasure of working with her on a number of

projects. >> if you look at the report in your blinders, it is very short this week. you will notice that for administrative citations, it has once again been cited. they have been cited twice in two months. they have had it literally two months. this is not the best of behavior. i have talked to the director and we're both looking at the best possible route for this particular incident as opposed

to continuously citing. they should probably explain what is going on. we are still getting complaints from neighbors. we have been promised they will increase their soundproofing and they have yet to hear to the sound cap -- adhere to the sound cap. we will continue to cite them, but i will leave that to the commission whether or not you want to bring them before you or if you want us to continue to cite them. i have been meeting with the city attorney. we met with them today and we are waiting for a little bit more information to come from the city attorney.

with non-payment of citations, we learned a lot today and we will hopefully have more information on that particular subject by tomorrow. i bring this up because they have come before this commission, there are past problems with incidence of ground control. they are -- so far, they have done a few of these. at least one of those events, they are working with us and we are working with them. we have also been working with some of the promoters that are doing these events had come to the staff who let us know that they are doing the event and the steps they are taking to make sure the events go off safely. we have had no problems, but i

want to put this commission on the know that it is actively and bringing in outside promoters. in the past, i mentioned working with the state agency and the bureau that licensed security guards in the state of california. we met with them and have been working through e-mail. we are looking to the next stage where they are talking about bringing us ain for site inspections. it would give us the ability to work with the state agency much closer. making sure that all of the security guards are guard carded. as you know, it is not only a

state law, but a city law as well. finally, there have been lots of comments about trends. i bring up my last point here, one of the trends i am seeing recently is a swing from non- permanent venues using dj's to non-permanent venues using live music. now we find more where house parties -- warehouse parties with live music. not only an underground parties but in the city overall. they are exploring live music as a possible option. we are seeing it from little

places that have been doing live music a long time to restaurants that have done a few sound tests. they're wanting a deejay for happy hour. the other trend, unfortunately, galleries are bringing in live bands as well. we tried our best to educate with a warning and explore other options with sfpd if we've had to go back. that is the trend. you will see under distance, we've changed the layout a little bit. sorry for the misspelling. we have one incident worth

noting. at the cliff hotel. it is a lounge located inside of the hotel. you have to walk through the lobby of the hotel which presents unique situations. it is not like a street where you can do pat downs. it is a little bit different than that. it should be worth noting that of the suspect in this incident was carrying a concealed firearm, security reacted properly. the police came and security was able to do the proper thing, who unfortunately, they had to engage this individual. they assisted the police and crowd control and the police had to wrestle this individual out. no one was hurt.

that is also a very positive thing. the situation is slightly unique. it is something that we have talked about, also talking about how we can work with those that work on best practices. it is the same, but it is slightly different. i believe that is it at this time unless there are questions from commissioners. >> i have just one. those that came here were originally operating without a license and said they did all of the soundproofing, and subsequent to that, i assume you did a sound test. the past that sound test?

>> in the past -- they passed that sound test with a very low sound cap. the only way they could was with a very low dba. which they acknowledged. and we helped them set their system. every time we have gone and, they have been above the sound cap. we've cited them for it. and yes, that is them. >> how did the one-day event at the art institute go? >> we have received no complaints. >> we got a report from one of the neighbors that was the mailing back and forth prior to the event -- e-mailing back-and-

forth prior to the event that it went off very well. there were very few attendees which made her happy. she did not mention about the sound, and the levels were fine. overall, they -- from the standpoint of the neighbors, it was a successful event. >> they did not have many attendees. and the bad news was they did not have many attendees did i am curious, did they distribute the letter that we requested? >> i believe that they did. >> i am curious what the response by staff would have been. as i was walking up, i was

thinking that we put well- meaning conditions on these things, and if we don't follow up on that or find out and it was not taken seriously, what do not we do? >> the consequence would be to make some sort of consequences if they were ever to come back to us for an additional permits. >> i don't mean after the fact, i mean at the last minute. would we be in a position where we could revoke the permit? >> i suppose that is true. i would have to find out the proper way to do that and the way that it does not infringe upon the process. it was not on the agenda, but i

am glad to follow up with you. >> i wanted to follow up on the directors' report. it was the first time that the commission is organizing. i am excited to be working with the director. we hope to make this the beginning of a series of meetings. we hope to be very informative and productive. we hope to nurture her hobby relationship between the commission and the neighborhoods. and we can meet and exchange ideas and explore opportunity for collaboration. it will foster a healthy, safe, and a vibrant neighborhood. we have been asking our

applicants to reach out to the community all the time. president newlin: any public comment on the director's report? we will go to the next item, the police department's comments and questions. inspector. welcome. >> good evening, commissioners. i hope you're all well tonight. we have had a few projects that we have been working on that we want to update you on. the first thing the director spoke to was the club's training. that will be happening this month. okay. just want to make that clear. anyway, that will be happening

this month . we have two dates in mind, we are deciding on one of them. we should know by the latest, next monday, when that will be happening. another issue that has been on the burner again, we recognize a as causing some confusion to some of the industry people, the availability of clubs. this is a priority to the department, how we are working diligently on it. as soon as we have more to share, we will. we recognize that we need to come up with some solutions rathesooner rather than later. if it has not come up in the past, it is important to the knowledge that when we created the alu unit, we started having

monthly permit meetings. i want to make sure the commission recognizes that they are welcome and attend almost every single meeting. it shows that it gives them a great opportunity to meet with them as a group and give them a sense of all of the issues we are dealing with. they go beyond the scope of entertainment, everything is kind of interweaved. >> i have one comment. i apologize that has not happened sooner, but i have been working to agendaize recommendations you made. it fits with the inspector's schedule.

>> we were going to do it on march 22, but we could do it on february 22. or we can do it on march 8. i will not be here, but the commission -- >> i would rather do it when you are here. are we still going to have a meeting with the city attorney? >> we did not get a response. i will go back. >> of the most productive for all of us, we are on the same page. >> it will not happen before the twenty second. >> if it does not work with the city attorney, we will reschedule it again. >> i have a question for you.

at public comment, someone asked about the property of permits, and i wanted to ask you a question, and correct me if i am wrong. abc license is a piece of property whose owner can be transferred if it goes through and remains with the original owner, but an entertainment permit is not a piece of real property and cannot be owned. once the business end, the permit no longer exists. is that right? >> kind of. there are a few issues that we should point out. for the viewers at home, it was public comment, but i think we have to recognize that the person bringing the question up is actually an expediter. the scope of