i will not pay $82,000 a day. this is for launches, breakfast, we will not pay that kind of money. we will do the train to make sure that that is cost- effective. my analysis of this model is said it is cheaper. if this is for free versus the cost that the chief was concerned about, this needs to be trained in this issue so that

this is a cheaper model. >> i'm getting so much support, i'm getting phone calls and e- mail that by to be part of this. we ran out of the money. >> will be reversed the trend?

will we ask that to take that to account. we cannot do it in 30 minutes with these line items. >> we will come back with a much more detailed report. >> i'm not sure that we have to have any action. this agenda has to take possible action. >> i will withdraw the motion and just ask that we have a sense of when we will come back to this issue. do we have a sense of when we can come back about this? >> i can answer this within a couple of days.

as far as the training and of the question about tasers, we don't have any plans on which we can face a cost model at this point. i can put a dollar figures on that once this is realized and in a more concrete manner. >> let's set a time with the commission and availability. >> we need to look at the calendar a little bit later on. we will go line by line on this. >> thank you very much. public comment on this item. >> once again, i am standing before you based on the budget.

you are operating or acting as though the grand jury did not investigate and the union and claim pensions and salaries were going to bankrupt san francisco by 2018. all of this you are talking about will not do anything to reduce the police budget. the president of united states has called for a wage freeze on the federal agenda you have any police pension and salary situation that is climbing by 10% a year. you're talking about this like is happening.

you were sitting back here talking about issues and i want to know why you did not have a copy of the budget.

i have been watching this for so long and i am sick of it. you have commissions here that don't act like commissions. this is a date, this is paychecks, you will hire police chiefs at 5 under thousand dollars a year. thank you. -- you will hire police chiefs at $500,000 a year.

>> i am a proud resident of san francisco and a former senior police secretary. i don't want to see the city going down the tubes. i am a bonafide in that case -- nutcase compliments of my husband. on one side of being a nut cake, you have a predator who does not

plan on doing crime at the sign. that is a mental person. they transfer to the closest police station and i have a rap sheet. i have yet to see any of my reports. i passed my written test with a perfect score. when i hear about all of this mental training for our police officers, it means they are

supposed to be shocked before they can take action. i will again state might ex husband took part in the assassination of a california highway patrol officer. there was a california highway patrolman shot just from walking down the front stairs of that building. isn't it nice to make sure that

he has a clean record the matter what? thank you. >> the taser issue was talked about last night. overwhelming support. the cost savings. we have workers' compensation for our officers. is more than the gross domestic product for most nations states. if he wanted to save $476

million, you can go ahead and cancel this commission. at this point, take a look. the evidence will show that the defendants mazzucco and marshall and others are guilty of fenocic - -genoci -- genocide. they are guilty of treason of the united states constitution. they are also guilty of conspiracy to commit these. in the 2010 report demonstrated

that there is a disproportionate number of people filing complaints against the 7 it is police department. -- against the san francisco police department. conspiracy is this agenda. the constitution of the united states provides a disclosed opportunity, the difference between 5/3 and the total po pulation of u.s. prisons is 39%.

the black population drops, that is evidence of genocide by the san francisco police department. it is estimated details. the solution has been solved by mr. john wilson. john "indiana jones" wilson. [chime] president mazzucco: your time is up, thank you. public comment? may i call item number three? >> the occ director's report.

possible action to provide instruction to the department and the 2010 first amendment compliant thought it pursuant to department general order 8.10. >> on february 2, i presented a letter to this commission outlining newhall the budget instructions as with every other city departments. we were asked to provide a 10% budget reduction that amounted to $235,000 to propose another $235,000 for contingency reduction. as i advised to end the annual

report as well as the letters i provided on february 2, those reductions would be the result of personnel reductions. for the first round of cuts, should they be taken in by the mayor and the budget office, it would result in the layoff of a couple of clerical positions as well as a vacant investigator position. any reduction in clerical staff would increase the workload of the investigators already have an extremely high caseload as compared to a best practices caseload. as a result, the study that we

did where investigators documented the time they spent on various tasks, the reduction in clerical staff could result in the voting 25% of their time. with regard to the contingency reduction and, another position would be eliminated and we would have to eliminate the mediation program because we have to lay off the attorney, leaving me with only three attorneys, two of whom are dedicated to prosecuting cases before the police commissioner, during sustainability with drafting a sustained reports. the third attorney that would remain as the attorney that provides a policy analysis to the office of citizen

complaints is a charter mandated activity where they are charged to a providing policy analysis that would serve to enhance community police relations. and the attorney that provides a policy analysis is also engaged in providing a sustainability when and addressing your report. it concludes my report with the police department and other city departments. this history of this commission and not approving the budget of the department. this commissioned in protest to a possible budget cuts they would have to take chose not to

endorse the budget. how about i was obligated to submit it. that concludes my remarks. >> director hicks, your budget in total is a line-item. >> that is correct. >> can you help us understand a little bit more how your total number comes about in terms of being part of the total department's budget? how that determines if? >> this is the budget that was adopted. it was some years back with some fluctuations dependent on whether additional investigators

were added. there is no guaranteed percentage of the police department's budget. there is a floor below which investigators cannot fall. that is one investigator for every 150 police officers. that would only be a minimum staffing levels of 15 investigators. also in the 2007 controllers thought it, they pointed out that having a this for probably was not the best tool to determine staffing needs. what should be looked at is the number of cases per

investigator to determine what the staffing level should be based on a and. i would say that the $4.2 million budget compared to a $445 million budget is woefully small based on the importance to the police department's disciplinary process. i would also say that in ideal circumstances, there would be additional legal staff because they only have a couple of trial attorneys to appear before you. there is no other way to slice and dice the other attorney to have him present cases to you. we operate within our budget

hough and we are going to provide the best service and quality services that we can. commissioner slaughter: when you were here last presenting year budget, you had charts that showed how many cases over time were being filed and cleared. and you know how many cases per investigator you had over time? and how many cases for attorneys you had? some years you were operating at 1000 cases a year, and i was wondering what be staffing situation was? >> in past years, we had as many as 17 investigators.

the caseload was 21 cases per investigator. the difference was in the year that there were only 21 cases, the clearance rate was higher. investigators devote additional time to cases to sustain them. it takes time to write the report and developed the evidence that their caseload increases. as i pointed out at my presentation last year, it was a uniquely difficult year because a number of experienced investigators were out for extended leaves of absence. in prior budget cuts, they had to give up much of the temporary

salary budgets and so i was not able to backfill positions. when you have a staff of investigators experienced like that, when those investigators go out on leave, they have accumulated those benefits, so there are no savings. commissioner slaughter: you had a chart that was year by year. >> one of the charts detailed how many cases were being filed year by year. as i understand the budget and the department in general, you had significantly more cases and i suspect it supports all that you are saying.

>> i will do that. >> i remember when we get more of the protest, which of things you can lose that amount of people, one of the reason our disciplinary process has been moving is that we have not only then having to resolve things, but hearing our back a little getting reduced. in the discipline will be swift. i think it is very serious. i am not prepared to pass a budget that will decrease the staff and given the thought it that we have that shows that we don't even have the appropriate amount of personnel now. i think your department is a

significant impairment that is needed. president mazzucco: can we move to the second item on the occ director's report? hone >> this is the consent item of sfp records pursuant to general order 8.10. president mazzucco: do you want to comment? or can we vote on the -- >> president mazzuccrshall and members of the commission, there is a chief investigator and others in the audience that did conduct the audit over the

course of two weeks. they are available to answer questions. >> is charles here? >> they're both here and are approaching the microphone. >> they are one of the ones that i want to amend. we had a couple of meetings and i think we need to get that back on track from the department. one of the things i need some glaring neon, when -- clarity on, when they are doing that type of thing, is there - a

report that allows you to tell us if they're complying with the laswws or hoemland s -- homeland security act? wireless taps without subpeonoena? >> good evening. to enter your question, commissioner dejesus, it has to do with any first amendment activity. there are particular guidelines and it is a particular part of the audit to look at the agency assessed.

>> i guess i don't know if you would see it. had the a that you would see it? they cover those kind of first amendment activities. there are some different rules on the federal level. how would you know? >> they would know what they are looking at, and perhaps a representative can answer your question about what they include in those binders that the staff reviews. >> this is to adopt or pass the consent item. your inquiry might be a little bit beyond the scope of what they are reporting on.

>> these are hot directly under the purview -- these are directly under the -- >> we saw things approved up to the chief's level. >> i move we accep ttht the report. president mazzucco: public comment. on item number three, hearing none. any objection? roll call vote on approval of consent item. >>